Soul King pulls up in Dragon Ball Xenoverse

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Alright, I'll try to ignore the uneeded derailing and ask the crux of the issue...

Is the potency of the crush ever mentioned in any of the profiles? If yes, then a crt is needed to change it. If not, then a crt is needed to define it.

Yes, they're currently based on a lowball result based pff of Yammy sucking in hundreds of souls at once.

The Soul King had s thread to discuss his recently but ut became controversial due to how high it may go. He needs a new CRT.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Same applies to any other effect. If it's on the pages, then a crt is to be made to remove it, and vice versa.

 

[Naeblis495]

The potency isn't what's being argued here really.

he is not wrong tho , we will need to get to that sooner or later and actually finish the crt about it's potency .

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

ah I see. Can we close this thread since it's a stomp and then discuss all the RC stuff in a separate thread?

This^

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I know, but i'm talking about what really is being argued here.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

IMade, the pics I gave dont lie. AKM says the exact opposite of everything you just said. That a thread to accept RC is what needs to be made, that its not accepted and that his argument aganst it is whats been accepted. I dont know how many times I need to repeat this before you guys stop replying with "he's wrong", "his arguments wrong", or "what he says doesnt matter".

Its not my fault or my problem that a staff member directly says you guys are the ones who are uninformed of whats been accepted. If you dont agree with AKM, then you need to discuss this with him instead of sitting here claiming he's wrong and attacking me over it.

That's fine but I couldn't care less since the results and accepted results of threads say otherwise.

There has not been a CRT to debunk Reiatsu.

There has been a CRT to accept Reiatsu.

There has been a CRT to change Energy Equalization rules.

You can see how Reiatsu is unaffected and remains the same.

 

[BakiHanma18]

Well, I guess we're going to discuss this in a Vs Thread, and discuss it only to all agree that this is a stomp anyway because of the Almighty...

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

But he directly states he was never debunked, multiple staff and people agreed with him, and that RC was included in the caveat rule. If he's wrong, thats up to the people who disagree to dispute him. Not sit here and complain.

Kukui, you could literally go to the thread and check the agreed upon rule and caveat.

Sigurd and I were in that thread and accelted the rule and caveat.

Why?

Because the caveat didnt affect Reiatsu.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Kukui, you could literally go to the thread and check the agreed upon rule and caveat.

Sigurd and I were in that thread and accelted the rule and caveat.

Why?

Because the caveat didnt affect Reiatsu.

And you can literally go right to the screenshots of AKM flat out saying the rule effects Reiatsu. And especially Reiatsu.

Thats why you need to take it up with him if you say he's wrong.

 

[YungManzi]

Someone just make the RC discussion thread already.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Someone just make the RC discussion thread already.

kek

 

[W0NDER3X]

Someone just make the RC discussion thread already.

Just rename this one lol.

 

[BakiHanma18]

But in all seriousness, I think having 1 thread dedicated to this topic would help us avoid... well... THIS from happening more often

 

[00potato]

Couldn't you have made it instead of asking someone else?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

But in all seriousness, I think having 1 thread dedicated to this topic would help us avoid... well... THIS from happening more ofte

We've had over 4.

Doesn't seem like it's doing shit.

 

[YungManzi]

Couldn't you have made it instead of asking someone else?

I'm not the main one arguing for or against it.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

And you can literally go right to the screenshots of AKM flat out saying the rule effects Reiatsu. And especially Reiatsu.

Thats why you need to take it up with him if you say he's wrong.

AKM could say whatever he wants to say, but it's not the new Rule and Caveat. This is the new Rule and Caveat:

It is also important to note that characters won't lose/gain any abilities or resistances which they do/don't inherently posses. However, if an ability have a weakness, condition, caveat, or limitation, stated by at least a valid and uncontradicted statement, then it should be applicable after equalization.

This didnt affect Reiatsu because a CRT must be first made to debunk the current accepted Reiatsu CRT.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

stated by at least a valid and uncontradicted statement, then it should be applicable after equalization.

Funny enough it's already contradicted, so it's already a bad start.

 

[BakiHanma18]

But in all seriousness, I think having 1 thread dedicated to this topic would help us avoid... well... THIS from happening more ofte

We've had over 4.
Doesn't seem like it's doing shit.

Damn... I dunno then, I just wish that, at the very least, there was no room for any doubt on the definitive answer

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

And the same goes for you Imade. You can keep repeating "the rule doesnt affect Reiatsu", "A CRT to debunk Reiatsu is needed" all you want.

All im saying here is that is AKM confirmed to me and others that it does effect Reiatsu, and that you need to be the ones to make a CRT to get it accepted. Simple as that. You can keep disagreeing all you want, its your word against his until you actually take this up with him.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Can you stop with the appeal to authority???

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Anyways, I have nothing else to say here. Im only going off of whats been told to me is the confirmed result. Nothing else.

So someone needs to make another thread about this to get it straghtened out.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

Kukui, read the ******* thread why don't you? AKM himself never once made a CRT to debunk Reiatsu, that CRT was made about enegry Equalization. This is getting ridiculous and having to repeat the same thing to you as several users are doing. You blatantly stone-walling isn't gonna get us anywhere.

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

I don't need to because the rule doesn't mention Reiatsu.

I'll wait on a CRT.

If asked, I'll make a blog if needed.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Kukui, read the ******* thread why don't you? AKM himself never once made a CRT to debunk Reiatsu, that CRT was made about enegry Equalization. This is getting ridiculous and having to repeat the same thing to you as several users are doing. You blatantly stone-walling isn't gonna get us anywhere.

I was in the thread dude....and majority of it was AKM addressing Reiatsu Crush. Again, take it up with AKM if you dont agree.

It's not my problem and you continuing to get petty with me is pointless.

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

To which Imade debunked his nonsense, AKM never replied directly to anything that Imade posted. Shit he even said Reiryoku is sheer AP in the thread, which is objectively wrong. Right now your enforcing an Appeal to Authority Fallacy, nothing more nothing less.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

can someone please close this before it get more out of hand...

 

[PaChi2]

Can someone tell me how this Future Warrior can counter:

Precognition (Reiō can see all possible futures), Information Analysis (Reiō can understand all powers he sees in the future), Fate Manipulation (Reiō can choose between and change the futures that lie before him),

Durability Negation and Intangibility with The X-Axis (Can uniformly penetrate anything between his weapon and his target, ignoring obstacles and durability. Furthermore with The X-Axis True Power active, Reiō is constantly in a state of intangibility, rendering him virtually untouchable even by Shinigami who can interact with spirits and intangible objects),

Likely Subjective Reality (Can turn his fantasy into reality)

Regenerationn (Low-Godly with The Miracle)

 

[IMadeThisOn8-1-2017]

Future Warrior isn't able to which leads to this being a stomp and why it should be closed.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

And AKM says IMade was the one debunked. Not him. So stop taking this up with me when im not the person you should be discussing this with.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Until you make a thread, nothing will change btw.

You can keep up with the fallacies, but it won't matter.

 

[DarkGrath]

As far as I can tell, this seems to be a stomp match and potentially even spite. On top of this, it's getting needlessly aggressive. I'm closing this.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Not my responsibility Sigurd.

Anyway, someone close this thread now please.

 

[AKM sama]

It is also important to note that characters won't lose/gain any abilities or resistances which they do/don't inherently posses. However, if an ability have a weakness, condition, caveat, or limitation, stated by at least a valid and uncontradicted statement, then it should be applicable after equalization.

This didnt affect Reiatsu because a CRT must be first made to debunk the current accepted Reiatsu CRT.

Just opening this cz my name was thrown around a lot. I have no problems with this ability being listed on the profiles, so no I'm not going to create a CRT to dismiss it.

Second, I don't know if you're in denial or acting ignorant, but the new rule does affect "reiatsu crushing the opponent" argument (or more specifically, the workings of this ability) because the staff thread was made to discuss how this specific ability works in versus threads. The consensus was accepted and the new rule was set as the by-product of that discussion. Now don't argue semantics. No, it doesn't specifically need to mention a verse-specific word in there and we won't add separate rules for all such powers. It's a general rule for all such powers, and this one falls under it as accepted in a staff thread.

So no, a separate CRT won't be created to do the same thing again and resolve an already resolved issue. If you have problems and have something new to bring to the table, then you're welcome to create a CRT and change how it currently works. If there isn't anything new, then I'd appreciate if people drop this argument and don't derail threads by repeatedly bringing the same old topic in every versus thread. Thank you.