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I'm just gonna go straight to the point.
Let's get started. I believe that the hedgehog's Super forms tier should be 5-A to low 2-C for the following reasons. 1. The Solaris feat is actually universal+. This may seem dumb because of the fact that Eggman said the creature would consume all timelines, a word they use loosely but more on that later. 2. Now for Solaris himself, why is he only omnipresent through one timeline? And if his over all goal was to consume all timelines why didn't he do it right away like the one space time he ruined when he was summoned. Also yes it is an entire space time because when you switch between the hedgehogs it's an empty void through all of their perspectives. 3. Eggman thought that it was almost impossible for the hedgehogs to remotely do damage to him, but his conscienceless, which is the orb in his chest. 4. I did hear there was a guidebook that mentioned Solaris' armor being able to withstand the force of crushing dimensions, I couldn't find it but if someone has I'd like to have a link thank you. 5. Even when Solaris is neutralized he's no where near defeated and still has to be blown out, but nothing too major. 6. The term timeline in this game isn't consistent because when Shadow tells Sonic and the others where they are, he says they're in another timeline which is false because the whole story takes place in one space time continuum. So when Eggman says "all timelines" he's likely referring to the past present and future, but I guess you could say this is head canon. So for the rest there shouldn't be a 4-A key because there's no hard evidence for it and it's reason for even existing as a "feat" is redundant considering the fact that they're are feats higher than 4-A.
As for base Sonic, I really don't have much to say, buuuuuut I'll try to disregard high 6-A Sonic. So imma start listening again. 1. Is there real reason why Sonic is at this level other than power scaling to robots. Robots that might not have equal AP and durability because they're robots with weak points. 2. Sonic's ability to content with the same robots from the past and still struggle against them is off putting. Even classic Sonic, who is 8-A is putting up good fights in sonic forces and generations. 3. If Sonic and the gang are sooo much stronger than classic, how was he even able to keep up, and why was he able to one shot Chaos 0. 4. People tell me this is PIS a lot, but the fact Sonic was gonna die to an island explosion bothers me. Sonic and the freedom fighters were also completely overwhelmed by the fact that they were gonna be incinerated by a surface wiping sun. 5. When Sonic is stated to get stronger over time, it's either not by a great margin or not at all. It's really his speed that increases regardless of what is said. 6. The IDW comics are likely canon and Sonic has an 8-A feat. That's it really I know the base Sonic points are a little weak but I'll just wait and see.
Let's get started. I believe that the hedgehog's Super forms tier should be 5-A to low 2-C for the following reasons. 1. The Solaris feat is actually universal+. This may seem dumb because of the fact that Eggman said the creature would consume all timelines, a word they use loosely but more on that later. 2. Now for Solaris himself, why is he only omnipresent through one timeline? And if his over all goal was to consume all timelines why didn't he do it right away like the one space time he ruined when he was summoned. Also yes it is an entire space time because when you switch between the hedgehogs it's an empty void through all of their perspectives. 3. Eggman thought that it was almost impossible for the hedgehogs to remotely do damage to him, but his conscienceless, which is the orb in his chest. 4. I did hear there was a guidebook that mentioned Solaris' armor being able to withstand the force of crushing dimensions, I couldn't find it but if someone has I'd like to have a link thank you. 5. Even when Solaris is neutralized he's no where near defeated and still has to be blown out, but nothing too major. 6. The term timeline in this game isn't consistent because when Shadow tells Sonic and the others where they are, he says they're in another timeline which is false because the whole story takes place in one space time continuum. So when Eggman says "all timelines" he's likely referring to the past present and future, but I guess you could say this is head canon. So for the rest there shouldn't be a 4-A key because there's no hard evidence for it and it's reason for even existing as a "feat" is redundant considering the fact that they're are feats higher than 4-A.
As for base Sonic, I really don't have much to say, buuuuuut I'll try to disregard high 6-A Sonic. So imma start listening again. 1. Is there real reason why Sonic is at this level other than power scaling to robots. Robots that might not have equal AP and durability because they're robots with weak points. 2. Sonic's ability to content with the same robots from the past and still struggle against them is off putting. Even classic Sonic, who is 8-A is putting up good fights in sonic forces and generations. 3. If Sonic and the gang are sooo much stronger than classic, how was he even able to keep up, and why was he able to one shot Chaos 0. 4. People tell me this is PIS a lot, but the fact Sonic was gonna die to an island explosion bothers me. Sonic and the freedom fighters were also completely overwhelmed by the fact that they were gonna be incinerated by a surface wiping sun. 5. When Sonic is stated to get stronger over time, it's either not by a great margin or not at all. It's really his speed that increases regardless of what is said. 6. The IDW comics are likely canon and Sonic has an 8-A feat. That's it really I know the base Sonic points are a little weak but I'll just wait and see.
