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Some thoughts on the Harry Potter profiles

Make seperate book and movie profiles
Agree: (3) Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral: (1) LightMoonWizard
Neutral
Downgrade Dumbledore, Voldemort and Grindelwald to High 8-C
Agree: (2) Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree: (2) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1
Neutral:
Neutral
Remove anything stating Grindelwald to be superior to Voldemort
Agree: (4) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral:
Agree
Remove anything stating old Dumbledore to be weaker than before
Agree: (3) Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral: (1) LightMoonWizard
Agree
Upgrade old Dumbledore to 9-B physically with subsonic reactions
Agree: (4) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral:
Agree
Remove "higher in her prime" from McGonagall's profile
Agree: (2) Gendolfgg1, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral: (2) LightMoonWizard, Lord_Farquaad69420
Neutral
Add something like "The verse generally ranges from Wall level to Large Building level, though there have been instances of accidental or unconventional use of magic reaching [whatever tier Alderton's feat is] or even [whatever tier Innocenti's feat is]." to the Wizarding World verse page.
Agree: (3) LightMoonWizard (Disagrees with the verse ranging from Wall level to Large Building Level, rest is fine), Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral: (1) Gendolfgg1
Agree
 
Make seperate book and movie profiles
Agree: (3) Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral: (1) LightMoonWizard
Agree. I recall seeing a dozen posts on the internet about the differences between books and movies, which are significant enough to separate them into distinct profiles.

Downgrade Dumbledore, Voldemort and Grindelwald to High 8-C
Agree: (2) Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree: (2) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1
Neutral:
Agree. They can be "High 8-C with magic, Low 7-C with Enviromental Destruction" via the fog creation feat, until better feats come up.

Remove anything stating Grindelwald to be superior to Voldemort
Agree: (4) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral:
I can agree with this, since nothing implies that Grindelwald is superior to Voldemort; if anything, it's more of the opposite.

Remove anything stating old Dumbledore to be weaker than before
Agree: (3) Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral: (1) LightMoonWizard
Agree. I am not sure how age affects magic, but nothing I know suggests that old Dumbledore is less powerful than his younger self.

Upgrade old Dumbledore to 9-B physically with subsonic reactions
Agree: (4) LightMoonWizard, Gendolfgg1, Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral:
Agree. If an eleven-year-old child can achieve 9-B feats, most wizards should be able to scale from them.

Remove "higher in her prime" from McGonagall's profile
Agree: (2) Gendolfgg1, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral: (2) LightMoonWizard, Lord_Farquaad69420
I guess the argument makes sense. Like Dumbledore, I don't see why age would have any effect on their magic.

Add something like "The verse generally ranges from Wall level to Large Building level, though there have been instances of accidental or unconventional use of magic reaching [whatever tier Alderton's feat is] or even [whatever tier Innocenti's feat is]." to the Wizarding World verse page.
Agree: (3) LightMoonWizard (Disagrees with the verse ranging from Wall level to Large Building Level, rest is fine), Lord_Farquaad69420, DarkDragonMedeus
Disagree:
Neutral: (1) Gendolfgg1
Agree.
 
Make seperate book and movie profiles
Yeah this is obviously something that needed to happen for a while now
Downgrade Dumbledore, Voldemort and Grindelwald to High 8-C
Disagree since Credence's feat has the possibility to get higher due to either the screenplay version, or simply a recalc of the feat
Remove anything stating Grindelwald to be superior to Voldemort
Makes sense
Remove anything stating old Dumbledore to be weaker than before

Upgrade old Dumbledore to 9-B physically with subsonic reactions

Remove "higher in her prime" from McGonagall's profile
Age scaling was always weird so yeah agree with all three
Add something like "The verse generally ranges from Wall level to Large Building level, though there have been instances of accidental or unconventional use of magic reaching [whatever tier Alderton's feat is] or even [whatever tier Innocenti's feat is]." to the Wizarding World verse page.
I agree? I'm a bit conflicted since some characters are outrighted to be >>> magic wise
 
Sorry I left this behind for months as I was studying for an important examination, where are we at currently? Calculating the hill bust?
No problem at all, I hope the examination went well for you! Jason Courne has recalculated Credence destroying the mountainside to around Low 7-C, as far as I understand. I think that's what's currently going on, but I've not been very active myself the last few months.
I guess that defeats my point regarding the downgrade. I'm still a bit iffy about other wizards scaling to Credence, but that probably has more to do with me being mostly a book purist and finding it a little hard to reconcile this level of destructive power with what we see in the books.
 
Sorry I left this behind for months as I was studying for an important examination, where are we at currently? Calculating the hill bust?


at 4:29 mark

I am kinda surprised the calcer in question didn’t bother to check the area that was affected by the spell.


Also not voting as it looks like I need to talk with Rusty about the feat in question
 
No problem at all, I hope the examination went well for you! Jason Courne has recalculated Credence destroying the mountainside to around Low 7-C, as far as I understand. I think that's what's currently going on, but I've not been very active myself the last few months.

I guess that defeats my point regarding the downgrade. I'm still a bit iffy about other wizards scaling to Credence, but that probably has more to do with me being mostly a book purist and finding it a little hard to reconcile this level of destructive power with what we see in the books.
Of course, because the power of Credence is uncontrollable and very chaotic, unlike the top of the verse, but this does not mean that he is stronger than them.
 
I have to assume so, the issue is no one seems to be active for it
Well I've found two respect threads for Voldemort in both versions and I'm actually interested in making a profile for his movie version, I'm even kind of planning about making a blog for him actually so maybe I could post the threads/the list of abilities and feats I've noted and make my blog?
 
Early blog I made for movie Voldemort. It's of course incomplete and needs more stuff but here it is. Based on a respect thread on reddit

Looks like a great start! I've been pretty inactive for some months now due to school and personal stuff, but I have made a suggestion for a book profile for Dumbledore; the character description is mostly just copied from his existing profile, but I've changed his stats and abilities to better fit with what is shown in the books. A lot of places I've had to rely on the assumption that he can replicate feats shown by lesser wizards, but I think that is a fair assumption as long as there isn't any context suggesting otherwise.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Dweller_Of_Dreams/sandbox
 
Looks like a great start! I've been pretty inactive for some months now due to school and personal stuff, but I have made a suggestion for a book profile for Dumbledore; the character description is mostly just copied from his existing profile, but I've changed his stats and abilities to better fit with what is shown in the books. A lot of places I've had to rely on the assumption that he can replicate feats shown by lesser wizards, but I think that is a fair assumption as long as there isn't any context suggesting otherwise.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Dweller_Of_Dreams/sandbox
Thx

Looks pretty great to I think (though in all honesty it's been a while since I've red the books so I don't remember every single detail lol). I think it's safe to say he can replicate what lesser wizards can do (it's Dumbledore after all), though maybe the profile should focus on the abilities he shows or is directly stated to possess and the Powers and Stats section should have a "Should be able to do the same things as lesser wizards)

For Voldemort, there's also a respect thread about his book version and I've compiled abilities for his book counterpart. About the movie blog, I was thinking maybe making separated tabbers for each of his Horcruxes
 
Thx

Looks pretty great to I think (though in all honesty it's been a while since I've red the books so I don't remember every single detail lol).
Thanks!
I think it's safe to say he can replicate what lesser wizards can do (it's Dumbledore after all), though maybe the profile should focus on the abilities he shows or is directly stated to possess and the Powers and Stats section should have a "Should be able to do the same things as lesser wizards)
Yeah, that sounds like a reasonable suggestion.
About the movie blog, I was thinking maybe making separated tabbers for each of his Horcruxes
That could honestly be an interesting idea!
 
Powers and abilities I've noted for book Voldemort

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Immortality (Type 2 and 8), Magic, Energy Manipulation and Projection with various spells, Death Manipulation with the Killing Curse, Pain Manipulation with the Curciatus Curse, Fire Manipulation (Set the Sorting Hat alight), Telepathy & Mind Manipulation (Stated to be the most accomplished Legilimens in the world, able to easily enter, read and control people's minds and their thoughts), Illusion Creation, Memory Manipulation (Can alter, erase and fabricate memories with spells), Transmutation & Life Manipulation (Turned a lasso of fire into a living snake), Density Manipulation (Can make float helplessly in the air), Soul Manipulation (Separated his soul into six pieces and put them into his Horcruxes), Transformation & Power Bestowal (Turned various objects into Horcruxes, granting them various powers), Curse Manipulation (Put a curse on Marvolo Gaunt's ring), Probability Manipulation (placed a jinx on the position of Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher that would cause something terrible to happen to those who held the post within a year), Necromancy (Can create Inferies), Creation (Can create various objects with his spells. Conjured a shield to defend himself against Dumbledore), Metal Manipulation (Conjured a hand of silver for Wormtail), Sealing (Made it so the entrance of the Cave where he kept Slytherin's Locket could only be opened if blood were to be spilled), Sound Manipulation (Amplified his own voice to a significant volume so all of Hogwarts could hear him deliver his ultimatum), Invisibility (With the Disillusionment Charm), Flight (Can fly without a broom), Teleportation with Apparition

Likely forgot some. Plus a feat from HBP

Snaps a bridge that could hold a dozen cars in half (The bridge was fewer than ten years old, and the best experts were at a loss to explain why it had snapped cleanly in two, sending a dozen cars into the watery depths of the river below. The Brockdale Bridge—he did it, Prime Minister, he threatened a mass Muggle killing unless I stood aside for him and—” [HBP: Chapter 1])
 
Should also add enhanced senses for all witches and wizards as they are more aware of magical phenomenons and beings(Being able to see ghosts, dementors etc). High tiers should know how to cast magic tracing spells so they should also have extrasensory perception with the use of them. And OWL, NEWT lvl magic abilities should be added on high tiers profile unless they're special case that didn't display magical mastery like crednece(who basically know few spells and mainly use the power of the obscurus). Plus, shouldn't Harry have blessed in his profile as he was given the ultimate protection by Lily's sacrifice? And he should also have power bestowal(situational) for doing the same for any loved ones voldemort intend to harm.

And this, Harry tanking hit from the horntail was passed in the Dura upgrade forum due to someone mistaking the dragon throwing harry with the tail was the feat. But if you see at 2:33, it hits Harry with its tail as they both fly into each other.




And hermione quite literally yanks Harry by his shirt and carries him mid air with one arm and throws him right into the entrance while the Whomping Willow attempts to throw them off. Would this upgrade average physical lifting strength of wizardkind? 2:12

 
Powers and abilities I've noted for book Voldemort

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Immortality (Type 2 and 8), Magic, Energy Manipulation and Projection with various spells, Death Manipulation with the Killing Curse, Pain Manipulation with the Curciatus Curse, Fire Manipulation (Set the Sorting Hat alight), Telepathy & Mind Manipulation (Stated to be the most accomplished Legilimens in the world, able to easily enter, read and control people's minds and their thoughts), Illusion Creation, Memory Manipulation (Can alter, erase and fabricate memories with spells), Transmutation & Life Manipulation (Turned a lasso of fire into a living snake), Density Manipulation (Can make float helplessly in the air), Soul Manipulation (Separated his soul into six pieces and put them into his Horcruxes), Transformation & Power Bestowal (Turned various objects into Horcruxes, granting them various powers), Curse Manipulation (Put a curse on Marvolo Gaunt's ring), Probability Manipulation (placed a jinx on the position of Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher that would cause something terrible to happen to those who held the post within a year), Necromancy (Can create Inferies), Creation (Can create various objects with his spells. Conjured a shield to defend himself against Dumbledore), Metal Manipulation (Conjured a hand of silver for Wormtail), Sealing (Made it so the entrance of the Cave where he kept Slytherin's Locket could only be opened if blood were to be spilled), Sound Manipulation (Amplified his own voice to a significant volume so all of Hogwarts could hear him deliver his ultimatum), Invisibility (With the Disillusionment Charm), Flight (Can fly without a broom), Teleportation with Apparition

Likely forgot some. Plus a feat from HBP

Snaps a bridge that could hold a dozen cars in half (The bridge was fewer than ten years old, and the best experts were at a loss to explain why it had snapped cleanly in two, sending a dozen cars into the watery depths of the river below. The Brockdale Bridge—he did it, Prime Minister, he threatened a mass Muggle killing unless I stood aside for him and—” [HBP: Chapter 1])
Too add some that I can remember at the moment regeneration(resurrection potion), Power Nullification(Anti appartion, disapparition spell on the cave), Summoning, Sound manipulation(Silenced hogwarts defenders), telekinesis, Invisibility(Powerful Disillusionment charm).
 
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