Shūkurō Tsukishima vs Yami Sukehiro

[Arnoldstone18]

Not sure where you're getting emotions from, but the scan says ki is the term for all the life energy that the human body gives off, and it doesn't shut it down, it bypasses it.

All the types of life energy*

 

[Arkenis]

All the types of life energy*

LOL, which equate to Ki

 

[KingTempest]

No tf it don't

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yūki Tabata

You know the only energy characters emit in Bleach is spirit energy right? So the BL argument still negs unfortunately.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

LOL, which equate to Ki

Last time i checked Reiatsu doesn't consist of "different types of life energy"

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

There is only one type of energy people emit in Bleach you’re making stuff up if you think otherwise

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

In the Ichigo vs Grand Fisher fight we learn that someone’s life energy and spirit energy are the same… BL bypasses ki unfortunately, not a debate

 

[Arkenis]

You know the only energy characters emit in Bleach is spirit energy right? So the BL argument still negs unfortunately.

I AGREEE

 

[Arnoldstone18]

SBA in the mud?

cuz Ki is in literally everything, even falling rocks

 

[Arkenis]

SBA in the mud?

cuz Ki is in literally everything, even falling rocks

Don't tell Tsukishima that

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

SBA in the mud?

cuz Ki is in literally everything, even falling rocks

Everything in Bleach has spirit energy, or in a broad sense “life energy”, even the atoms in the air

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Everything in Bleach has spirit energy, or in a broad sense “life energy”, even the atoms in the air

I mean under SBA he is supposed to have Ki as a literal human being.

 

[Arkenis]

In case people still bring up the "but can they sense emotions" I would argue this is an example of sensing emotions via reiatsu but not something I care much to push since it isn't too relevant.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I mean under SBA he is supposed to have Ki as a literal human being.

He does, his Ki is his life energy, his life energy is his spirit energy. So if he can cloak his spirit energy (which is his life energy), he would be cloaking his Ki.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

He does, his Ki is his life energy, his life energy is his spirit energy. So if he can cloak his spirit energy (which is his life energy), he would be cloaking his Ki.

Under SBA.

As a human being, he is supposed to emit different types of energy because humans in black clover humans emit different types of energy from muscle movements, sight, breathing patterns etc. It's inherent in the verse.

Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Azevedo128]

Ki in the Black Clover verse is pretty much sensing how someone/something interacts with the world around them and through that Asta and Yami can predict what someone is going to do before they have done it.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Under SBA.

As a human being, he is supposed to emit different types of energy because humans in black clover humans emit different types of energy from muscle movements, sight, breathing patterns etc. It's inherent in the verse.

Correct me if I am wrong.

Yes the life energy Tsukishima emits is the same as his spirit energy, because it’s equivalent, Tsukishima doesn’t get a second life energy that’s the exact same as his already existing life energy.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Yes the life energy Tsukishima emits is the same as his spirit energy, because it’s equivalent, Tsukishima doesn’t get a second life energy that’s the exact same as his already existing life energy.

Can Tsukishima sense mana under the assumption that Mana is Reiatsu?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Can Tsukishima sense mana under the assumption that Mana is Reiatsu?

If they’re equated ig so

 

[Arnoldstone18]

If they’re equated ig so

So BL can bypass Mana Zone detection and Ki sensing.

 

[Jibz]

mid thread ngl

 

[Arkenis]

mid thread ngl

thanks for adding to the midness of it all

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

So BL can bypass Mana Zone detection and Ki sensing.

Very likely so

 

[Jibz]

thanks for adding to the midness of it all

Wtf. Arc7, Arcker and now Arkenis. Yall mfs multiplying.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Ki can be used on rocks. and we know rocks don't have life force so what is stopping Yami from still using Ki sensing here?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Ki can be used on rocks. and we know rocks don't have life force so what is stopping Yami from still using Ki sensing here?

Rocks in Bleach do

 

[Arkenis]

ARNOLD YOU WERE SAYING ROCKS DO HAVE KI WHAT HAPPENED

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Rocks in Bleach do

Rocks in black clover don't have life energy so Ki can sense things regardless of whether or not they have life energy.

And concerning the speed amp, Iai slash and Death Thrust are tagging him.

And earlier I said Yami can use Ki even before he uses BL. Ki sensing is thought based while BL is movement based. So yami will know where the direction he is dodging and aim there. (Assuming for some odd reason you still disagree that Ki sensing won't work on him.)

 

[Arkenis]

Rocks in black clover don't have life energy so Ki can sense things regardless of whether or not they have life energy.

prove the rocks in black clover don't have life energy.

 

[YukaSama4]

prove the rocks in black clover don't have life energy.

I think if it's not mentioned, then they don't have it by default, but I never read Black Clover so imma keep watching ur debate then I will vote

 

[Arnoldstone18]

prove the rocks in black clover don't have life energy.

I’ll prove it. If you go to my previous post, I said life force not energy. Not the same thing.

 

[Arkenis]

I’ll prove it. If you go to my chat, I said life force not energy. Not the same thing.

eh u said ki.

like if u think they have ki then you think its life energy or life force but ki is life energy as stated by Yuki Tabata

 

[Arkenis]

I think if it's not mentioned, then they don't have it by default, but I never read Black Clover so imma keep watching ur debate then I will vote

was mostly a joke question

 

[Nierre]

Wtf. Arc7, Arcker and now Arkenis. Yall mfs multiplying.

ongod LMAOO

 

[Arnoldstone18]

eh u said ki.

like if u think they have ki then you think its life energy or life force but ki is life energy as stated by Yuki Tabata

Mobile format won’t let me see the scan so wait.

and if I answer this, we will go in circles.

so let’s go back to where arc claimed human beings and objects can’t emit any other types of energy in bleach so under SBA where that’s supposed to happen so that Yami can fight at his best.

 

[Arnoldstone18]

And earlier I said Yami can use Ki even before he uses BL. Ki sensing is thought based while BL is movement based. So yami will know where the direction he is dodging and aim there. (Assuming for some odd reason you still disagree that Ki sensing won't work on him.)

So can anyone answer this

 

[SuperStar]

We debating about rocks now? I’ve seen it all

 

[Arnoldstone18]

We debating about rocks now? I’ve seen it all

I’m just tired about debating wether or not Ki works on it.

I’ll get back to it if Yami actually needs it for now I just want to get on with the assumption he can’t use it cuz I’m tired

and nobody wants to answer my question

 

[Arcker123]

What even happened to this thread?

I think I’m better off letting this die, but BUMP.

 

[Deceived3596]

@Nierre So after what has transpired over on discord has your vote changed or are you still Yami FRA?