Shiki Ryougi vs Yhwach (2-6-0)

[BasedNecoScaler69]

It's time to put another one of the Shiki's vs fodder.
SBA
Literal Emptiness: 2
Anime Hitler:
Yhwach uses Schrifts
Speed Equalized.
20m range
Ryougi is using her melty blood key.
Yhwach is using Soul King Absorbed

Ryougi Shiki

Shiki Ryougi (両りょう儀ぎ 式しき, Ryōgi Shiki?) is the protagonist of Kara no Kyoukai and the bearer of the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, allowing her to see death and bring it upon anything "alive" for as long as she can run her knife across its Lines of Death. Hailing from a family of demon...

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Yhwach

Yhwach (ユーハバッハ, Yūhabahha?) is the Father of the Quincy, the monarch of the Wandenreich, and the son of the Soul King, known by the designation "A" - The Almighty. As a baby, Yhwach was incapable of sight, speech, or even the slightest movement, but never feared or despaired, as he knew he would...

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[BasedNecoScaler69]

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Why

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Why

yes.

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Yhwach FRB

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Yhwach FRB

Yhwach after Shiki kills the almighty:

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

Yhwach after Shiki kills the almighty:

Yhwach would have a better chance if he was out of character so he uses the schrifts.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Yhwach would have a better chance if he was out of character so he uses the schrifts.

updated op

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Yhwach would have a better chance if he was out of character so he uses the schrifts.

btw, are schrifts concepts?

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

If the key used for Shiki doesn't have the Outversal ap and other powerful haxes, I'll probably vote for Yhwach. Otherwise, this is not up for debate.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

If the key used for Shiki doesn't have the Outversal ap and other powerful haxes, I'll probably vote for Yhwach. Otherwise, this is not up for debate.

all keys of shiki have outerversal ap and quite a bit of resistances, but no this isnt void shiki

 

[Tdjwo]

You didn't even equalize AP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What's wrong with you? Shiki puts that grampy to permanent sleep.

 

[Tdjwo]

Oh my bad, didn't see the Melty blood key being used. Regardless, this is still a stomp. Shiki is like one of the biggest smurfs on this site. She negs with her 1A MEoDP hax.

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

all keys of shiki have outerversal ap and quite a bit of resistances, but no this isnt void shiki

If so.. Shiki negs

 

[BestMGQScalerEver]

It's possible for a non smurf to win against a 1-A smurf

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

It's possible for a non smurf to win against a 1-A smurf

I know

 

[Tdjwo]

It's possible for a non smurf to win against a 1-A smurf

Only if the speed of the non-smurf is greater than that of the smurf, and not equalized which is not the case rn so yeah, the smurf easily takes the cake here.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Only if the speed of the non-smurf is greater than that of the smurf, and not equalized which is not the case rn so yeah, the smurf easily takes the cake here.

this will be interestimg

 

[KingogKings777]

Yhwach after Shiki kills the almighty:

Does Yhwach have anyway to win this? Cause it seems like a stomp in favor of Shiki the smurf.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Does Yhwach have anyway to win this? Cause it seems like a stomp in favor of Shiki the smurf.

the x-axis?

 

[KingogKings777]

the x-axis?

Yhwach might have a chance then?

 

[Deceived3596]

What does exactly are Shiki's wincons and how do they resist or negate Yhwach's wincons like The Almighty or his RC?

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

What does exactly are Shiki's wincons and how do they resist or negate Yhwach's wincons like The Almighty or his RC?

She has the MEODP. If Yhwach tries to use the almighty, A death line will show up and shiki can cut it, disabling yhwachs almighty forever.
Also she has these resistances.

Resistance to Magic, including Law Manipulation, Size Manipulation, Sealing, Fate Manipulation, Density Manipulation, Matter Manipulation, Life Manipulation, Body Puppetry, Space-Time Manipulation, Time Stop, Petrification, Holy Manipulation, Purification, Memory Manipulation, Death Manipulation, Sleep Manipulation, Social Influencing, Fear Manipulation, Elemental Manipulation, Fire Manipulation, Ice Manipulation, Water Manipulation, Earth Manipulation, Energy Projection, Light Manipulation, Electricity Manipulation, Chaos Manipulation, Probability Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Conceptual Manipulation, Information Manipulation, Absorption, Transmutation, Curse Manipulation, Dream Manipulation, Perception Manipulation, Sense Manipulation, Disease Manipulation, Paralysis Inducement, Illusion Creation, Madness Manipulation (Type 2), Deconstruction, Subjective Reality, Telepathy, BFR, Higher-Dimensional Manipulation (All magi and characters with Magic Circuits have resistance to magical effects that aim to control and create effects within others, by rejecting the effect with magical energy. Shiki is also Mystery that is immune to most modern magecraft), Mind Manipulation, Possession and Power Nullification

 

[KingogKings777]

She has the MEODP. If Yhwach tries to use the almighty, A death line will show up and shiki can cut it, disabling yhwachs almighty forever.
Also she has these resistances.

Isn't that resistance to magic based stuff or is it all that stuff regardless of energy?

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Isn't that resistance to magic based stuff or is it all that stuff regardless of energy?

She can resist it with her magic circuits

 

[KingogKings777]

She can resist it with her magic circuits

Yeah resistance to magic through her magic circuits correct? If Yhwach's stuff isn't magic doesn't it bypass the resistance?

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Yeah resistance to magic through her magic circuits correct? If Yhwach's stuff isn't magic doesn't it bypass the resistance?

magical energy in nasuverse kinda works like reishi, pretty much everywhere in the enviroment, everything possesses a level of it somewhat, and it comprises all energy based attacks

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

pretty much everything energy based in nasu is comprised of magic

 

[KingogKings777]

magical energy in nasuverse kinda works like reishi, pretty much everywhere in the enviroment, everything possesses a level of it somewhat, and it comprises all energy based attacks

Ah okay.

 

[Rutæhh]

how does shiki kill almighty????

 

[Maitreya12]

Mfers literally putting up 1-A characters against a Yhwach that lost his 2-A Almighty rating

Y’all couldn’t find a more fair matchup like damn.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

how does shiki kill almighty????

ill just copy from her wiki profile.

The ability, calculation of the future, differs from and exceeds prediction of the future. The future is normally uncertain and unable to be reached out to because it is not there, and prediction only allows for seeing a possibility of a future that may eventually occur. Calculation is an abnormal ability able to determine an outcome through his own will which will definitely occur. This proves to be a weakness against the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, as they would have been unable to kill an uncertain prediction. He cannot reach out to a coincidence, so he gives the invincible future form with his eye. Reaching out to a certainty gives it a clear form, but that also means it is able to become broken. It is no longer unknown after having been determined, so with it having form, the concept of death applies to it even more so than the invisible, twisting spirals created by Fujino Asagami. The future is bisected and extinguished, causing his perfectly set-up bombs to temporarily malfunction without reason. His right eye, also feeling as if had been bisected, loses its light, and the ability to see paths in his left eye is unable to see a fragment "a future where escape is possible."

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Mfers literally putting up 1-A characters against a Yhwach that lost his 2-A Almighty rating

Y’all couldn’t find a more fair matchup like damn.

shiki is still tier 6 in literally everything but ap

 

[KingogKings777]

ill just copy from her wiki profile.

Seems like a weaker almighty. Also from the wiki itself.

The ability to kill something with the eyes requires the user to actually strike the target, so those physically above the user will easily be able to avoid them with little worry. While Tohno kills Arcueid at her full available power with a perfect sneak attack, she would be able to easily avoid him if he were to actively attack her even in her drastically weakened state.

So eh. And this too but eh.

There are those without true form like Night of Wallachia right before it takes shape. Something "made of words" and "which has yet to exist" cannot be "killed." Wallachia also can be called a "phenomenon" like "wind storms" and "typhoons", and while individual events of such phenomenon can be dispersed, it is impossible to outright kill the phenomenon itself. Ryougi works off of the notion of killing what she perceives as alive, so while she claims to be able to kill God "as long as it's alive", she can do nothing to God because "God is not alive or dead."[9]

From her page on vsbw this is her weakness along with some other stuff.

Shiki needs to hit her opponent to use her Mystic Eyes properly.

Also Almighty should be able to dab on her eyes since he dabbed on Ichibei's thing that prevented reincarnation which kinda seems the same.

Want to say Yhwach might be able to win now.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Seems like a weaker almighty. Also from the wiki itself.

doesnt matter, the almighty has the power to actualize the future yhwach chooses, as soon as he's doing that shiki will just cut the line. She doesnt need to directly slice yhwach for this, since he isnt the target.

From her page on vsbw this is her weakness along with some other stuff.

doesnt matter, im pretty sure yhwach isnt made of words

Also Almighty should be able to dab on her eyes since he dabbed on Ichibei's thing that prevented reincarnation which kinda seems the same.

completely different ability. also even if almighty was on and shiki stabbed him, that would not save him. not like he gets the chance to use it anyway.

Want to say Yhwach might be able to win now.

 

[KingogKings777]

doesnt matter, the almighty has the power to actualize the future yhwach chooses, as soon as he's doing that shiki will just cut the line. She doesnt need to directly slice yhwach for this, since he isnt the target.

doesnt matter, im pretty sure yhwach isnt made of words

completely different ability. also even if almighty was on and shiki stabbed him, that would not save him. not like he gets the chance to use it anyway.

Kinda does matter since a blast from the X-Axis sends her into the afterlife cause you know she can't hit it. Kinda would matter since the Almighty already no diffed power nullfication and we know she's gonna have to overheat her brain trying to kill Yhwach.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

Kinda does matter since a blast from the X-Axis sends her into the afterlife cause you know she can't hit it. Kinda would matter since the Almighty already no diffed power nullfication and we know she's gonna have to overheat her brain trying to kill Yhwach.

She can hit it, the MEODP can be used on the intangible. Yhwach is not resisting 1-A hax

 

[LordGinSama]

You guys forget that he can literally turn her to atoms passively. Reiatsu crush, the soul part is a non factor but it still does passive release a 3-C force that can cover 5KM.


Oddly enough despite her connection to the Root it doesn't respawn or protect her from death.

 

[BasedNecoScaler69]

You guys forget that he can literally turn her to atoms passively. Reiatsu crush, the soul part is a non factor but it still does passive release a 3-C force that can cover 5KM.

Doesnt reiatsu crush depend on soul manipulation? even if not, she could just kill the surrounding reiatsu to avoid this

Oddly enough despite her connection to the Root it doesn't respawn or protect her from death.

yea this isnt her super haxed 1-a version

 

[LordGinSama]

Doesnt reiatsu crush depend on soul manipulation? even if not, she could just kill the surrounding reiatsu to avoid this

That's only one part of it I wasn't even referring to. Well more like that's an indirect effect.


The dangerous part here is that he just kinda needs to exist and she's dead. Yhwach passively creates 3-C force and there's no way she's pulling out MEoDP before a literal passive. She needs to perform an action first with the knife, while Yhwach just needs to like be there to dust her.