Shibuya's hope meets "The Fear"

[Spectra_Schiffer]

As Nodt versus Gojo Satoru

• Both are equal Speed
• Battlefield: Tokyo
• Background music: Invasion
• Standart Battle Assumptions
• Both are bloodthirsty
• Tatar Foras | Post Shibuya

As Nodt: Rutæhh, EldemadeDityjon, Valeska24
Gojo Satoru:
Incon:

 

[Rutæhh]

Gojo gets fear haxed into oblivion

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

counted

 

[BaranDragneel]

I am neutral to this

 

[BaranDragneel]

I am neutral to this

Actually because of passive fear manip my opinion has changed so quick

As Nodt wins.

 

[Robo432343]

doesn't the cursed energy page give resistance to fear hax?

if im wrong, this is just a big fat stomp

 

[Robo432343]

maybe gojos willpower can save him?

• Supernatural Willpower (Could stay awake nonstop for 3 days while using Infinity,[3] and even after being stabbed through the chest,[4][5] Gojo could put up a decent fight against Toji.[6][7] Poured all of his focus into attempting Reverse Cursed Technique right as he was stabbed through the throat, cut down the torso, stabbed through the thigh four times, and punctured in the head,[1] ultimately learning the ability and using it to return from the verge of death[8])

 

[BaranDragneel]

doesn't the cursed energy page give resistance to fear hax?

if im wrong, this is just a big fat stomp

If thats true, I'll change my mind again

 

[Rutæhh]

doesn't the cursed energy page give resistance to fear hax?

if im wrong, this is just a big fat stomp

As Nodt works on souls who have baseline resistance.

• Soul Manipulation/Fear Manipulation/Paralysis Inducement (Souls with Reiryoku can resist the baseline effects of Reiatsu)

 

[CryptonBestDbFan]

I think nodt will win because of passive fear manipulation

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

maybe gojos willpower can save him?

• Supernatural Willpower (Could stay awake nonstop for 3 days while using Infinity,[3] and even after being stabbed through the chest,[4][5] Gojo could put up a decent fight against Toji.[6][7] Poured all of his focus into attempting Reverse Cursed Technique right as he was stabbed through the throat, cut down the torso, stabbed through the thigh four times, and punctured in the head,[1] ultimately learning the ability and using it to return from the verge of death[8])

Byakuya has better willpower still got negged

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Voting As Nodt. His fear hax is just busted. Gojo ain't countering that.

 

[Valeska24]

I think as nodt will win

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Voting As Nodt. His fear hax is just busted. Gojo ain't countering that.

I think as nodt will win

counted

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

Although.. I guess it's a stomp match. So this issue doesn't matter much.

It's pretty hard to find someone who can handle Bleach characters tbh

 

[Valeska24]

It's pretty hard to find someone who can handle Bleach characters tbh

It's just that Nodt's hax is so op

 

[Spectra_Schiffer]

It's just that Nodt's hax is so op

RC effect that other shinigami/hollows have:

 

[Arkenis]

Doesn't asnodt need to get his arrow to hit and put the goo into the body to cause the fear first?

 

[Valeska24]

Doesn't asnodt need to get his arrow to hit and put the goo into the body to cause the fear first?

This is only for the base form, the "Tatar Foras" form we mentioned transfers fear to the opponent through the optic nerves and this is passive

 

[Arkenis]

Doesn't he need to transform to that? OP is making it as though its a key so I'm confused

 

[Valeska24]

Doesn't he need to transform to that? OP is making it as though its a key so I'm confused

Volstanding is a technique that increases the powers and characteristics of Quincys, so it is more of a "form", but it is that is not specified as a separate "key" in his profile,anyway it still doesn't pose a problem for Nodt

 

[ExSENNA]

This is a stomp in either way

Either As Nodt stomps with fearhax or Satoru stomps with Limitless. In both cases it can't be added

 

[Jo-Smooth]

This is a stomp in either way

Either As Nodt stomps with fearhax or Satoru stomps with Limitless. In both cases it can't be added

Not a stomp for Gojo, As Nodt and every Bleach character with Soul Physiology has limited power null and the gap between As Nodt and Gojo (High 6-A to 5-C vs High 7-C to ‘Far/Even higher’ into Low 7-B) is bigger than the gap between Base Aizen and Shikai Soi Fon (5-C vs At Least 6-B) or the gap between R2 Ulq’s Oscuras and Orihime’s Shun Shun Rika (‘Higher’ into At Least High 6-A vs High 6-B) in which the weaker ones hax abilities were completely negged.

 

[Excellence616]

As Nodt FRA

 

[Mickey1940]

Voting either Incon or Gojo specifically because both are Bloodlusted

As Nodt doesn't have passive fear in base, he needs to use Vollständig in order to do that, and after transforming, he needs eye contact in order to fear Gojo. Without transforming he needs to land his Heilig Pfeil, which can't bypass Infinity

Issue is, Gojo can choose exactly what can and can't go through infinity

This includes light

meaning As Nodt's abilities straight up won't ever work on Gojo since he can just block light with Infinity and whip out Unlimited Void immediately, incapping As Nodt while Gojo stays safe

However, there's still the argument that he needs to see his target with Six Eyes in order for him to use Unlimited Void, which means that it's still incon as Gojo's Unlimited Void and As Nodt's Vollständig are equally instant

So tldr: If Gojo can use Unlimited Void while blocking everything with Infinity, he wins. If he can't block light, then it's incon

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Voting either Incon or Gojo specifically because both are Bloodlusted

As Nodt doesn't have passive fear in base, he needs to use Vollständig in order to do that, and after transforming, he needs eye contact in order to fear Gojo. Without transforming he needs to land his Heilig Pfeil, which can't bypass Infinity

Ok?

Issue is, Gojo can choose exactly what can and can't go through infinity

This includes light

Can you share the scan for infinity stopping light?

meaning As Nodt's abilities straight up won't ever work on Gojo since he can just block light with Infinity and whip out Unlimited Void immediately, incapping As Nodt while Gojo stays safe

However, there's still the argument that he needs to see his target with Six Eyes in order for him to use Unlimited Void, which means that it's still incon as Gojo's Unlimited Void and As Nodt's Vollständig are equally instant

So tldr: If Gojo can use Unlimited Void while blocking everything with Infinity, he wins. If he can't block light, then it's incon

UV arguments are already addressed so doesn't work.

Not a stomp for Gojo, As Nodt and every Bleach character with Soul Physiology has limited power null and the gap between As Nodt and Gojo (High 6-A to 5-C vs High 7-C to ‘Far/Even higher’ into Low 7-B) is bigger than the gap between Base Aizen and Shikai Soi Fon (5-C vs At Least 6-B) or the gap between R2 Ulq’s Oscuras and Orihime’s Shun Shun Rika (‘Higher’ into At Least High 6-A vs High 6-B) in which the weaker ones hax abilities were completely negged.

 

[Mickey1940]

Can you share the scan for infinity stopping light?

Satoru Gojo

jujutsu-kaisen.fandom.com

Infinity (無 (む) 限 (げん) Mugen?): Being the neutral form of the Limitless, the Infinity is commonly known as the ability to stop, although this is a common misconception as the true power of the Infinity is to slow things down. When something attempts to hit Satoru, the person or object in question instead hits the infinity between himself and them. According to Satoru, this is the convergence of an infinite series and comes straight from the paradox of Achilles and the tortoise. Akin to the way Achilles will never catch the tortoise due to the potential, infinite amounts of finite space separating them or how the real number one will never touch the real number two due to the infinite amount of fractions that separate them, the opponent will never touch Satoru due to the infinity between them. Satoru can decide what does and doesn't touch him and can do so based upon mass, speed, and danger ratings.
If Gojo is bloodlusted, he can block anything that follows conventional laws of physics, including light. He would never do this in cahracter, but he's not in character here

UV arguments are already addressed so doesn't work.

"Not a stomp for Gojo, As Nodt and every Bleach character with Soul Physiology has limited power null and the gap between As Nodt and Gojo (High 6-A to 5-C vs High 7-C to ‘Far/Even higher’ into Low 7-B) is bigger than the gap between Base Aizen and Shikai Soi Fon (5-C vs At Least 6-B) or the gap between R2 Ulq’s Oscuras and Orihime’s Shun Shun Rika (‘Higher’ into At Least High 6-A vs High 6-B) in which the weaker ones hax abilities were completely negged. "

Reiatsu can overwhelm other Reiatsu-based abilities, as in, abilities that are composed of Reiatsu. Unlimited Void is just raw information. That's like saying Aizen can ignore time manipulation or space manipulation from, say, Innocent Zero from Mashl, or Chaos Control from Shadow or smthn. Just because he's stronger doesn't mean he automatically resists hax from weaker characters. He specifically blocks hax that are composed of Reiatsu/other energy systems, like Sui-Feng's powers.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Satoru Gojo

jujutsu-kaisen.fandom.com

Infinity (無 (む) 限 (げん) Mugen?): Being the neutral form of the Limitless, the Infinity is commonly known as the ability to stop, although this is a common misconception as the true power of the Infinity is to slow things down. When something attempts to hit Satoru, the person or object in question instead hits the infinity between himself and them. According to Satoru, this is the convergence of an infinite series and comes straight from the paradox of Achilles and the tortoise. Akin to the way Achilles will never catch the tortoise due to the potential, infinite amounts of finite space separating them or how the real number one will never touch the real number two due to the infinite amount of fractions that separate them, the opponent will never touch Satoru due to the infinity between them. Satoru can decide what does and doesn't touch him and can do so based upon mass, speed, and danger ratings.
If Gojo is bloodlusted, he can block anything that follows conventional laws of physics, including light. He would never do this in cahracter, but he's not in character here

Issue is, Gojo can choose exactly what can and can't go through infinity

This includes light

Incase you don't understand^
Send scans for this

Reiatsu can overwhelm other Reiatsu-based abilities, as in, abilities that are composed of Reiatsu. Unlimited Void is just raw information. That's like saying Aizen can ignore time manipulation or space manipulation from, say, Innocent Zero from Mashl, or Chaos Control from Shadow or smthn. Just because he's stronger doesn't mean he automatically resists hax from weaker characters. He specifically blocks hax that are composed of Reiatsu/other energy systems, like Sui-Feng's powers.

Do you even know what reiatsu is? It's based on soul manipulation and has anything to do with UES; it works on anything with souls. Also, false analogy. No one is arguing which is not stated in the series. Aizen's KS also has perception manipulation and mind manipulation abilities. Gojo's UV is perception manipulation, which sends information. That's all, so it should be capable of being negated by Reiatsu, which has statements of higher Reiatsu negating Aizen's KS.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Satoru Gojo

jujutsu-kaisen.fandom.com

Infinity (無 (む) 限 (げん) Mugen?): Being the neutral form of the Limitless, the Infinity is commonly known as the ability to stop, although this is a common misconception as the true power of the Infinity is to slow things down. When something attempts to hit Satoru, the person or object in question instead hits the infinity between himself and them. According to Satoru, this is the convergence of an infinite series and comes straight from the paradox of Achilles and the tortoise. Akin to the way Achilles will never catch the tortoise due to the potential, infinite amounts of finite space separating them or how the real number one will never touch the real number two due to the infinite amount of fractions that separate them, the opponent will never touch Satoru due to the infinity between them. Satoru can decide what does and doesn't touch him and can do so based upon mass, speed, and danger ratings.
If Gojo is bloodlusted, he can block anything that follows conventional laws of physics, including light. He would never do this in cahracter, but he's not in character here

Mind sharing the thread where it was accepted?
No way you sent fandom wiki where any user can edit and tried to argue in vs wiki
Brother you should understand how vs matches works here.

 

[Mickey1940]

Incase you don't understand^
Send scans for this

there are no scans for this. My analysis comes from common sense.

Gojo can negate quite literally anything in the series thus far, besides Domain Amplification (which uses the Sure Hit aspect of Domains to bypass Infinity), or abilities that affect space time. Why would light be treated as any different?

Not to mention, Gojo's ablitiy also works on sound, which unlike light, isn't actually a tangible thing, it's just molecules bumping into each other. There's no reason to assume Gojo can't block the photons from any light source as well

Do you even know what reiatsu is? It's based on soul manipulation and has anything to do with UES; it works on anything with souls. Also, false analogy. No one is arguing which is not stated in the series. Aizen's KS also has perception manipulation and mind manipulation abilities. Gojo's UV is perception manipulation, which sends information. That's all, so it should be capable of being negated by Reiatsu, which has statements of higher Reiatsu negating Aizen's KS.

It's not a false analogy. You said that Aizen was able to overpower Sui Feng's Shikai ability because his Reiatsu is superior to hers, which makes sense since Sui Feng's abilities are based and structured around Reiatsu. Gojo's is literally just information. That's not really Cursed Energy manipulation. That's literally just... seeing what the Inner World of Infinity is and not being able to process it. It's not injecting knowledge in your brain, it's just an existing well of information that you see and get overwhelmed by. That's not really a hax that can just be ignored simply by being strong. You aren't overwhelming your oppoent's reiatsu with your own reiatsu, simply because neither reiatsu/cursed energy nor power are factors when explaining what Unlimited Void is

Also, where are the statements stating that Kyoka Suigetsu can be ignored through sheer reiatsu?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

there are no scans for this. My analysis comes from common sense.

No scans = headcanons not common sense.

Gojo can negate quite literally anything in the series thus far, besides Domain Amplification (which uses the Sure Hit aspect of Domains to bypass Infinity), or abilities that affect space time. Why would light be treated as any different?

NLF and nowhere in the series implies or stated he can stop light with Infinity. Extraordinary Claims needs extraordinary evidence. So you need to send that otherwise still the headcanon nothing else.

Not to mention, Gojo's ablitiy also works on sound, which unlike light, isn't actually a tangible thing, it's just molecules bumping into each other. There's no reason to assume Gojo can't block the photons from any light source as well

False Analogy. Sound & light works different & has different speed.

It's not a false analogy. You said that Aizen was able to overpower Sui Feng's Shikai ability because his Reiatsu is superior to hers, which makes sense since Sui Feng's abilities are based and structured around Reiatsu. Gojo's is literally just information. That's not really Cursed Energy manipulation. That's literally just... seeing what the Inner World of Infinity is and not being able to process it. It's not injecting knowledge in your brain, it's just an existing well of information that you see and get overwhelmed by. That's not really a hax that can just be ignored simply by being strong. You aren't overwhelming your oppoent's reiatsu with your own reiatsu, simply because neither reiatsu/cursed energy nor power are factors when explaining what Unlimited Void is

Yours was false analogy because mind is tied to soul and information works on that and You giving space time blah blah blah has nothing to do with information or mind manipulation.

Also Jogo wasn't able to resist it because of him lacking resistance to perception manipulation. Even Gege clearly mentioned that

Also, where are the statements stating that Kyoka Suigetsu can be ignored through sheer reiatsu?

Read CFYOW novels or wait for someone to send the scans I'm not free enough to look for that.

 

[Mickey1940]

No scans = headcanons not common sense.

NLF and nowhere in the series implies or stated he can stop light with Infinity. Extraordinary Claims needs extraordinary evidence. So you need to send that otherwise still the headcanon nothing else.

I can't prove 1+1=2 without scans, equations, and complicated formulas, so does that mean we should reject this premise?

the OP stated that they're both bloodlusted, and given what we know about Gojo's Infinity ability, through common sense, we can assume that it should work on most things. It works on sound and heat, as well as other intangible abilities, so why not light?

Infinity blocks all attack that can't bypass space, or isn't infinite speed. Why would visible light be treated as something like that? That's like saying anyone who's MFTL+ just bypasses Infinity cuz **** you I said so. That's not how it works. "Headcanon" would be making unreasonable assumptions with no information to back it up. I have reasoning and information and logic to back my argument up. You're claiming that my point is headcanon simply because you're rejecting the idea of Gojo winning in the first place, without any actual evidence to explain otherwise

False Analogy. Sound & light works different & has different speed.

You're missing my point. Sound, a non-tangible concept that abides by the laws of physics, is still blocked by Infinity
plus, speed is quite literally never a factor when considering Infinity, as it converges space as an infinite series of fractions, causing objects that approach him to slow down and never reach their target. It doesn't matter how fast you are if the distance between you and your target is split into infinite distance.

Yours was false analogy because mind is tied to soul and information works on that and You giving space time blah blah blah has nothing to do with information or mind manipulation.

Sui Feng's Poison, although it ignores durability conditionally, still relies on Reiatsu in order to actually function as a poison and not get flat out blown out of someone's body. Giselle's "The Zombie" works in a similar vein: The technique requires Reiatsu in order to use, so therefore it can be resisted with high Reiatsu due to the rules imposed within the verse. Space and TIme Manipulation don't give a **** about how much Reiatsu/Cursed Energy/Verse Equalization Power you have, it still works because it doesn't interact with a person's raw power, energy, or strength. In a similar vein, Gojo's Infinity isn't limited by how strong you are. You can't use Cursed Energy to mitigate the effects of it, as it's just information. It's not a memetic hazard, it's not cursed energy frying your neurons, it's just a metric **** ton of information that exists in a space and is being observed by your eyes, which your brain is trying and failing to process. It's not an active attempt to mind control you, it's just information.

Also Jogo wasn't able to resist it because of him lacking resistance to perception manipulation. Even Gege clearly mentioned that

Gege literally just says "Yeah so uh UV is just limitless information"
not to mention, As Nodt has no resistance to this either

Read CFYOW novels or wait for someone to send the scans I'm not free enough to look for that.

Kinda hypocritical for you to force me to find scans and manga panels and go out of my way to describe why my argument makes sense, while you claim you're too "busy" to support your own arguments. If you don't have time, then just respond at a later date instead of just saying "I'm too busy/lazy to respond now".

 

[Nierre]

Why would Gojo even know to block out light even if it could? It's not like he has prior knowledge

 

[Mickey1940]

Why would Gojo even know to block out light even if it could? It's not like he has prior knowledge

Bloodlusted usually means both characters can and will use things that are out of character

although I will admit that without prior knowledge he probably wouldn't do that

which is why I said I voted for either Incon or Gojo depending on if he could or couldn't block light

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I can't prove 1+1=2 without scans, equations, and complicated formulas, so does that mean we should reject this premise?

If you're going to use dumb analogies again, please don't reply. We're not discussing mathematics here. Your premises and analogies are completely unrelated topics.

the OP stated that they're both bloodlusted, and given what we know about Gojo's Infinity ability, through common sense, we can assume that it should work on most things. It works on sound and heat, as well as other intangible abilities, so why not light?

Arguments from incredulity.

Infinity blocks all attack that can't bypass space, or isn't infinite speed. Why would visible light be treated as something like that? That's like saying anyone who's MFTL+ just bypasses Infinity cuz **** you I said so. That's not how it works. "Headcanon" would be making unreasonable assumptions with no information to back it up. I have reasoning and information and logic to back my argument up. You're claiming that my point is headcanon simply because you're rejecting the idea of Gojo winning in the first place, without any actual evidence to explain otherwise

Too many headcanons with no scans, statements, proofs, or implications. Your replies are arguments from incredulity with nothing to back them up.

Send the statement, scan, or proof for needing infinite speed to bypass infinity. Prove that Infinity works way beyond Gojo's perception speed.

You're missing my point. Sound, a non-tangible concept that abides by the laws of physics, is still blocked by Infinity
plus, speed is quite literally never a factor when considering Infinity, as it converges space as an infinite series of fractions, causing objects that approach him to slow down and never reach their target. It doesn't matter how fast you are if the distance between you and your target is split into infinite distance.

• There is no rule that you need to be abstract to bypass infinity. Even Gojo states it works based on perception.
• The convergence of space means nothing; it still falls under NLF for blocking light without any feats or statements. Gojo doesn't have SOL perception speed.

Also basic knowledge on difference between Light and sound.

Spoiler: Common Sense

Sound and light are both forms of energy that travel in waves, but they differ in several key aspects:
1.Nature: Sound is a mechanical wave that requires a medium, such as air, water, or solids, to travel through. Light, on the other hand, is an electromagnetic wave that can travel through vacuum (space) as well as through transparent materials like air, water, and glass.
2. Speed: Light travels much faster than sound. The speed of light in a vacuum is approximately 299,792 kilometers per second (km/s), whereas the speed of sound depends on the medium it travels through and varies from around 343 meters per second (m/s) in air to 1,480 m/s in water.
3.Medium: As mentioned, sound requires a medium to propagate, whereas light does not. This means light can travel through the vacuum of space, but sound cannot.
4.Waveform: Sound waves are longitudinal, meaning the particles in the medium vibrate parallel to the direction of the wave propagation. Light waves, however, are transverse, meaning the oscillations of the electric and magnetic fields are perpendicular to the direction of propagation.
5.Frequency and Wavelength: Sound waves have lower frequencies and longer wavelengths compared to light waves. The frequency of sound waves determines their pitch, while the frequency of light waves determines their color.
6.Sensory Perception: Sound is perceived by our ears and interpreted by our brain as hearing, while light is detected by our eyes and interpreted as vision.

Sui Feng's Poison, although it ignores durability conditionally, still relies on Reiatsu in order to actually function as a poison and not get flat out blown out of someone's body. Giselle's "The Zombie" works in a similar vein: The technique requires Reiatsu in order to use, so therefore it can be resisted with high Reiatsu due to the rules imposed within the verse. Space and TIme Manipulation don't give a ** about how much Reiatsu/Cursed Energy/Verse Equalization Power you have, it still works because it doesn't interact with a person's raw power, energy, or strength. In a similar vein, Gojo's Infinity isn't limited by how strong you are. You can't use Cursed Energy to mitigate the effects of it, as it's just information. It's not a memetic hazard, it's not cursed energy frying your neurons, it's just a metric ** ton of information that exists in a space and is being observed by your eyes, which your brain is trying and failing to process. It's not an active attempt to mind control you, it's just information.

Power Nullification (Reiryoku can null the abilities and techniques of those massively weaker than the user)

It's Reiryoku not reiastu both are different.

Gege literally just says "Yeah so uh UV is just limitless information"
not to mention, As Nodt has no resistance to this either

He has powernull with Reiryoku no need for resistance.

Kinda hypocritical for you to force me to find scans and manga panels and go out of my way to describe why my argument makes sense, while you claim you're too "busy" to support your own arguments. If you don't have time, then just respond at a later date instead of just saying "I'm too busy/lazy to respond now".

I don't remember forcing you to do something . You just lack scans, that's all. Mine and your situations are way different.

 

[Robo432343]

I can't prove 1+1=2 without scans, equations, and complicated formulas, so does that mean we should reject this premise?

bro

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Also Jogo wasn't able to resist it because of him lacking resistance to perception manipulation. Even Gege clearly mentioned that

Doesn't that prove UV put the target in somekind of loop?

 

[Arkenis]

Gojo's ablitiy also works on sound,

The sound is deadass traveling to his ear what are you even saying lmao

 

[Jo-Smooth]

I can't prove 1+1=2 without scans, equations, and complicated formulas, so does that mean we should reject this premise?

the OP stated that they're both bloodlusted, and given what we know about Gojo's Infinity ability, through common sense, we can assume that it should work on most things. It works on sound and heat, as well as other intangible abilities, so why not light?

Infinity blocks all attack that can't bypass space, or isn't infinite speed. Why would visible light be treated as something like that? That's like saying anyone who's MFTL+ just bypasses Infinity cuz **** you I said so. That's not how it works. "Headcanon" would be making unreasonable assumptions with no information to back it up. I have reasoning and information and logic to back my argument up. You're claiming that my point is headcanon simply because you're rejecting the idea of Gojo winning in the first place, without any actual evidence to explain otherwise

You're missing my point. Sound, a non-tangible concept that abides by the laws of physics, is still blocked by Infinity
plus, speed is quite literally never a factor when considering Infinity, as it converges space as an infinite series of fractions, causing objects that approach him to slow down and never reach their target. It doesn't matter how fast you are if the distance between you and your target is split into infinite distance.

Sui Feng's Poison, although it ignores durability conditionally, still relies on Reiatsu in order to actually function as a poison and not get flat out blown out of someone's body. Giselle's "The Zombie" works in a similar vein: The technique requires Reiatsu in order to use, so therefore it can be resisted with high Reiatsu due to the rules imposed within the verse. Space and TIme Manipulation don't give a ** about how much Reiatsu/Cursed Energy/Verse Equalization Power you have, it still works because it doesn't interact with a person's raw power, energy, or strength. In a similar vein, Gojo's Infinity isn't limited by how strong you are. You can't use Cursed Energy to mitigate the effects of it, as it's just information. It's not a memetic hazard, it's not cursed energy frying your neurons, it's just a metric ** ton of information that exists in a space and is being observed by your eyes, which your brain is trying and failing to process. It's not an active attempt to mind control you, it's just information.

Gege literally just says "Yeah so uh UV is just limitless information"
not to mention, As Nodt has no resistance to this either

Kinda hypocritical for you to force me to find scans and manga panels and go out of my way to describe why my argument makes sense, while you claim you're too "busy" to support your own arguments. If you don't have time, then just respond at a later date instead of just saying "I'm too busy/lazy to respond now".

Bleach characters have resisted/outright negged space-time manipulation. As Nodt specifically hasn’t but Gojo is so much weaker than him that he has no answers for the power gap.

 

[Small_Ophion]

If As Nodt starts out in Tatar Foras then its more than likely a win for him due to The Fear which Infinity can't block.

UV is the only wincon that could be considered here and that's still arguable given how Reiryoku has been accepted to work. So I'm voting As Nodt.