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Oh, my bad about that, I hope everything be okay, don't worry with the wiki, ur personal life is way more important
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Senna's Feat
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Sorry about the incident hope your safe and no serious causality?
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what changes? the cosmology is already a thing accepted, they are just talking about making it more clear, also calc is still valid as was explained above multiple times.
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sorry to hear that, hope u are ok.
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Oh shit, Im sorry to hear that, hope you are okay
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mostly shook rn. I will be getting some stitches so I wont be on for most of the day
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hope u will be fine, take care of urself real life is more important than the wiki
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@AKM sama yo you mind if we close this thread and move the discussion on cosmology to an upcoming cosmology blog CRT I plan on dropping here soon.
A lot of the discussion/clarification would be more pertinent there and I feel like it would be infinitely more organized to do so.
At this point we’ve moved well beyond the scope of thread and are talking on interpreting Bleach cosmology.
A lot of the discussion/clarification would be more pertinent there and I feel like it would be infinitely more organized to do so.
At this point we’ve moved well beyond the scope of thread and are talking on interpreting Bleach cosmology.
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Hold off on that till I go through the film
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No the gravity calc got accepted with the current cosmology by several knowledgeable members. I just don’t have time to walk you through it atm, because I’m on vacation.
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That thing bout the cosmology has been accepted since the start, the calc is based of that same cosmology, so the changes are fine
You seems to be a bit confused about the cosmology
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The calc itself is fine under normal circumstances which is why there were agreements at the start but what DT brought up later was largely ignored. We cannot use normal gravity calc in case where the gravity is traversing between 2 different spacetimes. That's just not how it works as DT and I have already explained. Small details matter. I'll simply wait for Cyber in case he has something new to add.
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The gravity is not traversing a separate spacetime… have you not read the thread, we’ve been saying this for days
If we wanna talk about ignoring DT, “launching two 3-A structures into each other hard enough to destroy them should be good for 3-A scaling”, but we accepted my calc as a lowball seeing how the calc is also fine.
If we wanna talk about ignoring DT, “launching two 3-A structures into each other hard enough to destroy them should be good for 3-A scaling”, but we accepted my calc as a lowball seeing how the calc is also fine.
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maybe im wrong, but ig this can explain it
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i need time to re watch the film
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I'll jog your memory.
AKM: "So for clarification, you are saying that the entire Bleach cosmos is one big universe which contains the WotL and SS (currently treated as observable universe-sized orbs) among other things and all of it shares the same spacetime?"
Arc: "More or less, except for Dangai, that’s separate."
At this point we established that Dangai is a separate spacetime than WotL and SS. A whole lot of comments were spent on this discussion so it's easy to go back and check.
As such, matter such as stars and planets from the WotL cannot exert a normal gravitational force that travels all the way to SS when they have to go through:
1. The normal WotL spacetime
2. The Dangai spacetime
3. Back in the normal SS spacetime
The presence of a foreign spacetime (Dangai) in addition to the normal spacetimes of the realms (WotL and SS) is a hindrance for any matter's gravitational force to cross over, and you can't apply normal gravitational calc in such cases. I cannot make it clearer than this. I think DT already did a good job of it earlier but it was conveniently ignored as people seemed to be pressing to get the calc accepted and applied.
AKM: "So for clarification, you are saying that the entire Bleach cosmos is one big universe which contains the WotL and SS (currently treated as observable universe-sized orbs) among other things and all of it shares the same spacetime?"
Arc: "More or less, except for Dangai, that’s separate."
At this point we established that Dangai is a separate spacetime than WotL and SS. A whole lot of comments were spent on this discussion so it's easy to go back and check.
As such, matter such as stars and planets from the WotL cannot exert a normal gravitational force that travels all the way to SS when they have to go through:
1. The normal WotL spacetime
2. The Dangai spacetime
3. Back in the normal SS spacetime
The presence of a foreign spacetime (Dangai) in addition to the normal spacetimes of the realms (WotL and SS) is a hindrance for any matter's gravitational force to cross over, and you can't apply normal gravitational calc in such cases. I cannot make it clearer than this. I think DT already did a good job of it earlier but it was conveniently ignored as people seemed to be pressing to get the calc accepted and applied.
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How are things progressing so far?
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just wait a bit. ill rent the film soon and then watch it. Holding on for a bit isnt going to cause any harm.
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You mean the comment to which I replied with:
"Now that you're saying Kyogoku is the medium for them to physically interact, Cyber stated right above that Kyogoku was gone by the time gravity was finishing the job and he even posted a screencap where it's not there anymore."
And then you didn't respond?
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guys, the kyogoku question is solved by a simple rewatch. Give me time please. I just had stitches done yesterday
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Cyber was wrong because the Blanks were still there. They may not have taken the form of a big rock but they were still there.
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Dont worry about it, you had some problems yesterday, dont worry with the wiki, take care of ya healthy
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that is true, the blanks did still exist, otherwise senna's feat would have been impossible. Still im going to take notes when i watch
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Again, as I said, I don't have any problem waiting for Cyber. Instead of trying to "oh this was already accepted and there's no way it can be wrong and changed back close this thread asap", let's give him the time to respond since he asked for it.
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I think this video is all we really need.
- Ichigo physically dives into the Valley through a hole that connects the two at the start.
- Mayuri tells us that the Blanks have the power to slam the two universes together and destroy one or both at 4:23
- Yama tells us that SS and the Valley are directly connected at 4:36
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wait.... the hole was still present at the end? That means the kyogoku would still be intact after the kido cannon fired.. which means arc was correct
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well done
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Ichigo takes Senna out of the Valley. They state it is collapsing and the gravity of the Valley is causing all three worlds to merge. Senna goes back in and nukes the Dangai's insides to push SS and WotL away from each other with the Blanks who still exist.
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https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/809876238437056532/871819169539178566/unknown.png
Right before senna nukes everything, the kyogoku hole is shown to still be there
Right before senna nukes everything, the kyogoku hole is shown to still be there
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Basically,
Both realms outside dangai >>> blanks start pulling them inside dangai >>> once inside dangai the gravity of both realms interact >>>> senna uses the full power of blanks to launch the dimensions outside dangai and into their previous positions
Both realms outside dangai >>> blanks start pulling them inside dangai >>> once inside dangai the gravity of both realms interact >>>> senna uses the full power of blanks to launch the dimensions outside dangai and into their previous positions
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