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Eh, no since at the end of the movie all of gates disapears and the realms are outside the dangai once more
Cus we are told in the movie that her explosion is what separated them so not an assumption...
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Senna's Feat
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Cus we are told in the movie that her explosion is what separated them so not an assumption...
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Went and checked the scenes again to make sure, I see no mention that the force of her explosions is what pushed the worlds apart. Also, if the force of her explosions was so powerful as to literally push those worlds at super speed, it would certainly destroy some part of it because of that magnificent impact. Seems to me that her explosions finished what the Kidou Cannon started, destroyed the connection, and the worlds went back to normal as a result.
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Are u using the movie with the yellow subs? Cus those are not the official ones
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I hadn't considered this possibility before. I will rewatch that part of the movie to see if it makes sense.
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Makes sense to me
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If we go with akm's interpretation, the above makes no sense. The sudden removal of the kyogoku would not push the realms backwards, and not to that degree. It also wouldnt stop the collision
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That's exactly what it said in the version I watched. Point still stands.
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Akm i just pointed out why your interpretation makes no sense. the removal of the valley wouldnt do jack at that point, because of the gravity
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But it says that because of the explosions both realms are moving to their places why are you saying this :
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I agree with cyber, akm's interpretation makes zero sense.
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What cyber is saying is that ur interpretation is incorrect, as the cannon basically had no effect cus at that point the dimensions gravity was still getting them on a coalition path, then senna used the blanks full power and finally separated them
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If you consider that the existence of Kyogoku was the very thing causing the attraction and facilitating the gravity to work, it being gone would stop that and the realms should retain their stable positions once again.
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Exept that is not what happened... the thing causing the dimensions to get inside the dangai on the first place was the blanks which where pulling them towards each other
They use the cannon however that would not change anything cus at that point the dimensions where still inside dangai and so close that the gravity would make them collide
This is when senna uses the blanks full power inside the dangai to repel both dimensions outside the dangai and into their original position
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no they wouldnt. The gravity kicks off because of the proximity of the realms to each other, but it obviously didnt start the journey of the realms. How does removing the gravity that manifests late in the game shoot the realms backwards and stop them conveniently back in the original location. Also they never mention her explosion destroying the valley as the reason.
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This is seemingly relevant.
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Even if we were to consider AKM's theory that Senna just destroyed the Valley of screams the universes would have just halted moving. Thats clearly not what happens in the movie. Both the universes were pushed back to their respective stable positions. Yeah makes no sense.
Either way the explosion pushed back 2 universes as shown and mentioned in the movie.
Either way the explosion pushed back 2 universes as shown and mentioned in the movie.
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Like i mean no disrespect in any shape or form, but can we not go to head canon options after we have covered every counter argument
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It's very blatantly implied though. Their very first attempt to stop the collision was literally to remove Kyogoku from the equation using the Kidou Cannon, meaning that its destruction would make everything normal. But it failed to destroy it. Then Senna jumped in the connection and released all the energy, creating numerous explosions. Logically, it would imply that she finished the task.
As for this, removing the Kyogoku would mean that the realms are under no external force. As everything in nature, they would go from an unstable state to their stable states. It certainly makes more sense than assuming that the impact of giant explosions so strong to push universes to such a degree would leave them unscathed.
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Feat should be Universal, I've said that before and my opinion hasn't changed
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Yeah no. Mayuri explicitly states that both realms are MOVING back to their respective positions keyword being moving back meaning they were pushed back by the force. He did'nt just say they were stable now. We even see the universes moving away from each other.
So let me repeat again they were pushed back by the explosion.
Edit: Cyber has already posted scans of this here. It's clear as it gets.
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it is not implied, they have different context.
Kido cannon: Blanks are bring the realms together, so solution nuke the blanks to kingdom come.
gravity manifests AFTER this.
Senna: Last ditch effort to save everything, cause explosions all through out the dangai (which makes solely nuking the kyogoku utter nonsense). We are then told the realms are moving back BECAUSE of the explosions. The realms dont naturally move, not without soul cycle slamming, which this is not
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Exept that it fall flat as we are told in the movie that they were still on a coalition path die to their closeness and the gravity
"Assuming a giant explosion separated them"
That's not an assumption we are literaly told that the explosion is what is pushing them back....
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Except that we established in the recent discussion that Kyogoku itself was facilitating the gravity to work. Otherwise, we go back to the point about how gravity is unquantifiable across Dangai.
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I heavily agree with this lol
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That's as simple an explanation as one can get
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What's the point to this, AKM Sama is never going to change his mind no matter what he's told, I think that's become pretty obvious given that he has singlehandedly dragged this thread out for 8 pages.
He's clearly outvoted by the staff, what reason is there to continue this other than letting AKM Sama stonewall? Six or seven staff members agree and only he disagrees, end this already.
He's clearly outvoted by the staff, what reason is there to continue this other than letting AKM Sama stonewall? Six or seven staff members agree and only he disagrees, end this already.
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I mean, we already discussed this point and I gave my reasons as to why I disagree because it ignores the consideration of gravitational force altogether.
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go with this for a moment. Removing the kyogoku still wouldnt do what the end of the film shows. The realms are close as heck. Sudden removal of the kyogoku wouldnt push them to the start position
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There is no gravitational pull at the start
The thing that got the dimensions inside the dangai and was gonna slam them to destroy them where the blanks, not the gravity of the dimensions
The gravity was only playing a small part after the cannon was fire, which the cannon did nothing to stop the coalition nor slow it down
Senna busting the full power of the blanks to separate them is the thing that did the job
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Destroying 2 3-A dimensions = 2x 3-A = total energy = Blanks + Gravity -> 2x 3-A - 3-C = 3-A.
TLDR: it's still 3-A
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The film says the explosions happen, the realms get pushed back as BECAUSE OF THE BLASTS. Enough of interpretations that ignore what we are literally told
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I have some issues with this perspective on it. I can get into it more tomorrow if it is being seriously proposed.
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Hey now, I was gone for half of this thread. And assuming that I will never change my stance if provided sufficient evidence is poisoning the well. Same can be said about anybody who argues for any side. And not to mention new points were brought up after majority staff commented here which were not in consideration when they agreed.
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No new points have been brought up, you're just fabricating more arguments out of nothing to keep the thread going, you're clearly not going to let it go.
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The universes would be travelling faster than light in order to collide themselves into each other within a span of a few days so all the extra math are just bunk and the result would just be 2x baseline 3-A
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