-
This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.
For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here. -
We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.
Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.
Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page. -
Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
See, we told you we were working on it! (Naruto Revision Part 1: Scaling)
- Thread starter LordTracer
- Start date
- Status
- 751
- 398
This just talks about the lightning AP, my question is about the storm feat.
- 11,628
- 16,007
It was decided that the storm scales to the bolt's AP in this thread.
The_Alxhemist
Username Only- 817
- 553
It's a slight suggestion but about Victor. Shouldn't he have the same "At least" as Orochimaru since he was able to injure him?
- 15,411
- 15,766
- Thread starter
- #125
I dunno, he’s “7-C, possibly higher” on his current profile, so I just swapped the 7-C out for 7-B.
The_Alxhemist
Username Only- 817
- 553
Oh.
Anyways since Victor was pretty much displayed to be Orochimaru's equal, he sould receive the same rating. The rest look fine the way I see it.
You guys really went all out on it. congrats
- 3,720
- 1,729
Btw, we should include Garo and Ao as well, and they both would be 7-B scaling off of Boruto and Konohamaru.
- 15,411
- 15,766
- Thread starter
- #128
Ao is included, and Garo is only tiered at 8-A, but his page does say he scales to Kawaki so ???
- 3,720
- 1,729
Yeah, Kawaki would be 7-B as well scaling off Boruto who is 7-B. So scaling chain.
- 15,411
- 15,766
- Thread starter
- #130
Oh, I see what’s going on here. Boruto and Kawaki were 8-A prior to being upgraded to 7-C. It seems like Garo (and Shojoji) were forgotten in whatever thread did that. I’ll fix that rq.
- 11,628
- 16,007
Alright guys.
There's obviously no rush here, but I'd like this thread to have a bit more structure. Tempest still has issues, but all of the other staff members who commented seem to be okay with the proposals. So once Tempest's concerns are addressed, one way or another, will this thread be good to go?
There's obviously no rush here, but I'd like this thread to have a bit more structure. Tempest still has issues, but all of the other staff members who commented seem to be okay with the proposals. So once Tempest's concerns are addressed, one way or another, will this thread be good to go?
- 21,468
- 30,790
My issues have been handled/countered, this can keep going. Don’t make my personal issues hold up the thread.
- 11,628
- 16,007
I was anticipating your response for a whole day lol
- 5,450
- 1,840
So what's left to discuss?
- 11,628
- 16,007
I sent a message to GokuSparkle asking him to comment here. So if he brings up no issues within the next day or so, I'd say it's pretty safe to say this is accepted at this point. We have more than enough staff approval.
This is also for everyone else, not just Sparkle. If y'all have ANY issues, please bring them up as soon as you can. I'd much rather we deal with the issues now, and not have them creep back up in future CRTs about different topics.
- 3,720
- 1,729
Sorry if its been brought up many times, but didn't SM Naruto survive a Shinra Tensei that knocked out Gamabunta?
XSOULOFCINDERX
They/Them- 21,313
- 8,986
Gamabunta got One-Shot by Pain but Naruto didn't, yes.
- 11,628
- 16,007
No, the ones Naruto withstood were far smaller than the one that one-shot Gamabunta.
- 15,411
- 15,766
- Thread starter
- #141
ahem
- 3,720
- 1,729
Oh, sorry about that. Yeah I got nothing else for the time being
- 15,411
- 15,766
- Thread starter
- #145
KCM Naruto scales around the level of KN6, who’s Bijuudama is calced at 2.4 gigatons. High 7-A+ starts at 2.65 gigatons, only about 1.1x higher than KN6’s calc. As such, people significantly stronger than KCM are upscaling.
Does that explain it?
BlastX
He/Him- 5,531
- 2,976
KCM scales above V2 6 Tailed form cause Naruto remembers being in that form and said he was stronger than we he fought Pain.
- 31,211
- 27,406
To be honest that line of logic still feels rough to me; it's mostly there just because KCM Naruto himself is lacking in feats.
If there was some adequate replacement; I'd take it.
If there was some adequate replacement; I'd take it.
- 18,822
- 27,401
- 15,411
- 15,766
- Thread starter
- #150
Naruto said he was stronger than he was when he fought Pain, and he has shown that he’s aware of what happened with KN6 (490).
- 31,211
- 27,406
To be fair a flashback panel of the events is not the same thing as an actual memory / visual from Naruto's point of view.
- 15,411
- 15,766
- Thread starter
- #152
- 18,822
- 27,401
Has the fact that Naruto can't make bijuudama in KCM because they're too heavy, yet he can with his V2 cloaks been addressed?
- 15,411
- 15,766
- Thread starter
- #154
Yes, Slayer and I discussed this with Damage before even making the thread.
- 18,822
- 27,401
Can you elaborate to me in thread, I'm not Damage.
- 11,907
- 11,521
- 11,628
- 16,007
It's not just that.
Like we discussed before, there's also the added context of Naruto wanting to gain control of "Nine-Tails power". The only context we have for what Naruto considers that power to be is KN4 and KN6, since he flashbacks to both. Once he masters KCM, Naruto and many others reiterate the fact that he now commands and controls the "Power of the Nine-Tails". The fact that there's another separate statement about him being way stronger than he was when he fought Pain only further cements this as the most likely interpretation.
- 15,411
- 15,766
- Thread starter
- #159
In the V2 forms, Kurama is the one in control, not Naruto. Kurama obviously knows how to create a Bijuudama, Naruto didn’t prior to his training. Also after linking with Kurama, he could create Bijuudama with no problem.
Also even in KN4, Naruto can create Bijuudama, and even if we said KCM is just above Sage Mode, that’d still put him above KN4. So the ability to create Bijuudama isn’t necessarily a power thing.
- 11,628
- 16,007
Making Bijuudamas is not related to power. It's just something that Kurama can do, but not Naruto. Even KN4 can make Bijuu bombs quite easily. It's more like because Kurama used to be in the driver's seat once Naruto used his V2 cloaks, and has control over his own power.
This is proven by the fact that KCM1 Naruto was later able to create Bijuu bombs after gaining Kurama's cooperation.
Also, we took this into consideration anyway because we don't scale KCM above KN6's TBB, but above his physicals. But since KN6 downscales from his TBB anyway, it ends up being that KCM is ~ 2.4 GT.
- Status
