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tell me, what was the whole message Roshi wanted to give to tien back in OG DB?Not that i remembered.
Not sure if is just omege missremembering the series
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Sans vs Krillin
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Serlock_Holmes
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That's the most likely part if he wanted to move him there.
Yeah no that's bull shit. That's literally turn game mechanics get that shit out of here. We don't use that in every Turn based game verse. We ain't using it here. First attack is already iffy with me.
ShakeResounding
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This argument that Krillin isn't gonna go for the kill here is actually ridiculous lol. Krillin has disregarded any care for whatever teachings Roshi had multiple times in the face of those who will cause grave harm to him/those he cares about (and SBA automatically applies a similar mindset here). The entire ToP was dedicated to a survival-of-the-fittest genocide that Krillin essentially had no choice but to participate in (and is essentially what happens here, as the characters are taken and put into battle as per the SBA again).
If this match is gonna be a debate, it shouldn't be whether Krillin is going for the kill (and at minimum in self defense) here against a person who fights in a bloodthirsty manner. That is so dumb.
If this match is gonna be a debate, it shouldn't be whether Krillin is going for the kill (and at minimum in self defense) here against a person who fights in a bloodthirsty manner. That is so dumb.
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or just blast from above like every other db character that krillin fought?
.....see sans' law manip please, that is how it works
Quibster
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I use the words "starts with" in strict relation to Krillin's first attack, not "krilling attacks first and with this". I'm also going to call bullshit here because It's another moot point.
He was going to murder Vegeta in Z when he was on death's door, and certainly didnt care about being good in that scenario. If he had not been stopped by Goku, he would have done so with Yajirobe's sword.
He also threw an attack at Nappa with the intent to horizontally bisect and kill him. Had Vegeta not called out the danger to Nappa, he would have also been slain by his Kienzan. Please show me instances where Krillin was a goody two-shoes against a something that both A, isn't human, and B, is incredibly dangerous instead of making these sorts of statments.
It wasn't just him, Gohan was there too. The instance of the fight you timestamped is irrelevant to the feat I linked and seemingly taken out of context. If I wasn't clear before, I was showing that Krillin is capable of dodging San's near point-black attacks with his bones, and in mid-air. I think you just chose to cherrypick something unrelated to the argument's context to make an arbitrary point. Speed is also equalized for attacks, but the effect of the attack/ ability remains unaltered. Speed and reaction speed is equal in this match, including attackspeed. Otherwise this fight would be incredibly one-sided if it isn't already.
Teleportation also hardly matters because of that, and the insurmountable range advantage Krillin has. If Sans cannot teleport out of Krillin's range, let alone deal with the ensuing shockwaves, Sans loses plain and simple.
"Make a CRT and get this uncertain ability removed or else I won't care about your point."
No. That doesn't change the fact that it has never been specified in the game, or on this forum, that he has a solid rating for Timestop. Even his page makes it uncertain, alongside the fact that it is, again, never specified that he has Timestop. It was put on his page for reasons that, quote, "aesthetically match", and nothing further beyond what has already been specified for the scope of his Space-time Manip.
If you're sure that he has Timestop, please show me the instances where he purportedly uses it so we can clear it up. I really don't want to go in circles with people over this because "it's on his page therefore he can use it" logic, without acknowledging the notes the ability has. It shows you either choosing to be ignorant or are just oblivious.
In either case, you conflating my statements and scans with complaints, which isn't really the case at all. Troll someone else.
If you really want to try and undermine his Range, the minimum range he has is Planetary. Which, Sans still cannot avoid no matter how much you try to spin this. You're focusing on all the wrong points here.
If you want to operate on the assumption that his range is lower because "x never did an attack at that range!!!" then congratz, Sans still cannot avoid Krillin's minimum range.
I think I'm just going to ignore you. You've provided nothing substantial, really.
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Serlock_Holmes
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You have been saying the dude doesn't have ki so no he wouldn't assume that.
I have severe disagreements with that. Would go as far as to say that this is probably bullshit. Then every Turn based game character should get a pause when doing their attacks.
Eden_Warlock99
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That's an actual thing in UT, like actually mentioned in the sans fight
Serlock_Holmes
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Ugh whatever fine then. Still seems like colossal bullshit on the level of reiatsu crush. After this battle and Dmc I really should leave the game verse stuff.
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ok then
finally scans, altho i was saying that he wouldn't kill on sight
my friend, read the page again, every speed that is faster than the normal speed is still as much faster in equalized speed, so the blasters would still be 2x faster than sans' on combat speed
you know that they are only 10 meters apart from each other right? krillin doesn't instantly uses big shockwaves with every attack, that is just silly, also his blue mode makes krillin unable to escape from the battle
he has the likely rating, unless it is restricted by the OP he will be able to time stop, that is how likely ratings work in this wiki
my friend........it is accepted as a likely rating, unless the OP restrict it we will consider as him having it, are you just not knowing on how likely ratings work on the wiki?
yeah, just like how i can't just disregard krillin's tier since it is accepted, you also can't with accepted abilities, which the time stop is
i mean, unless he starts nuking right off the bat with such AOE then i don't see the point in it?
can you not strawman me please? when have i argued against krillin's range?
when have i said that? Verse equalization would make his magic and krillin ki equalized
in sans' case, it is an accepted thing for him hence the law manip
Serlock_Holmes
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They aren't. They operate completely differently. Also If ki gets equalized with his ability then Krillin can just...interact with them and stop them. But it's magic so it wouldn't work like that.
Yeah got it. Damn Game characters.
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no they are not
Serlock_Holmes
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Are you telling me Ki and magic even in Dragonball are similar? It's a completely different system. Also if it gets equalized Sans quite literally won't be able to hurt Krillin. The difference is so absurd the attacks are negated. But again it's not ki. It's magic. At most Sans would have Ki as a life form but even that is debatable. No idea what the stance is nowadays.
Fezzih_007
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BECAUSE he was trown to the ground, he gonna assume the next attack gonna be for the ground, that's basic logic in a fight.
He does trought.
When the fight starts, he moving his down and up, and whenever he decides to summon bones from the ground, he moves his hands.
I was right wow.
He gonna remember then, yeah.
He can aim-dodge them
Not it don't, what? What you talking about?
Aim-dodge.
Yeah what, Krilling gonna be prepared, he can aimdodge the blast pretty easily
I can.
I don't think you understanding, if you see blinding light at close range, even with higher speed you gonna still be affected.
So you argument for Sans not having a retina is because he is a Skeleton.
Then i point out things he also should't have due to being a Skeleton.
You dismiss them, saying that he have because-
Like, do you have proof that he does don't have retina?
He kicks them to the water, and leave them to drown.
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the magic in dragon ball matters for magic in undertale because?
what do you mean?
Serlock_Holmes
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Because Sans wouldn't use Ki due to equalization.
I'm saying that if we assume Sans uses ki he is dead.
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no? you know, we should stop this back and forth, we have been repeating over and over
same as aboveHe does trought.
When the fight starts, he moving his down and up, and whenever he decides to summon bones from the ground, he moves his hands.
I was right wow.
along side the blasters that are faster than himself coming from multiple directions?
considering that sans can rapid fire from multiple directions......i don't see how that would be the most likely scenario
yes it does, hence why him not attacking at all makes you not able to attack him also
multiple directions at once even in blind spots
and if sans attacks from a blind spot?
ok then
define "close range" they are meters apart here
my dude, he is a magical being, we don't know how he talks, or how he sweats, that is not countering the fact that he doesn't have any biological thing like retinas since he is litterally a skeleton without them, why would i need to prove the obvious?
ok
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my dude, magic in undertale is an energy on living things as much as Ki is in dragon ball, it is not simple spels like the Magic in dragon ball
reason being?
Serlock_Holmes
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Because higher ki negates weaker ki. Though there are some anomalies like Devilmite beam.
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you made a sans vs db thread, what did you expected?
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again with this? my dude, that "more power resists hax in db" was never accepted here, this was never a thing here nor was it ever accepted
Serlock_Holmes
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How quaint
Fezzih_007
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Whatever, i fine with adding this as Inco, i don't think we gonna come with a agreement here.
Serlock_Holmes
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Fezzih_007
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Didn't read any of the previous post, but Sans does one damage (1 HP) per frame, and Undertale runs at 30FPS. And that's without karma. If Krillin truly has 28HP, he would die less than a second.
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Dragonite007
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Sans
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ayo verse equalization
AceOfSpaces3709
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Hey Uuber I never said I voted for Sans, I just came here to post a meme and express my dislike for "Sans VS DB" matches because I find them overly repetitive.
AceOfSpaces3709
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You might need to do a recount to check if people actually said "I vote [Blank]" or "[Blank] FRA
Serlock_Holmes
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And all that for Db's Voldemort.
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