Sans vs Orange Piccolo

[Nullflowerblush]

What exactly is stopping Piccolo from, like, y'know

 

[Nullflowerblush]

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Directory: Techniques → Defensive Techniques → Energy Shield Explosive Wave (衝撃波, Shōgekiha) is a technique where the user bursts out ki from all over their body in order to repel the opponents around them. King Vegeta is seen using it in one of Vegeta's flashbacks while on an unnamed planet...

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[StrymULTRA]

Explosive Wave

Directory: Techniques → Defensive Techniques → Energy Shield Explosive Wave (衝撃波, Shōgekiha) is a technique where the user bursts out ki from all over their body in order to repel the opponents around them. King Vegeta is seen using it in one of Vegeta's flashbacks while on an unnamed planet...

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Sans killing him 1st.

 

[Nullflowerblush]

Via? Existing?

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

I think I’m changing my vote back to piccolo, I just don’t see Sans killing piccolo before he just gets nuked

 

[Omegabronic]

Via? Existing?

Hitting him for about 3 seconds

 

[Nullflowerblush]

What happens when Piccolo dodges?

 

[StrymULTRA]

Via? Existing?

The KR negates dura and if fully hit the opponent is killed in 5 secs max.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

What happens when Piccolo dodges?

He nukes Sans

Also if he puts a Ki barrier he can literally chill.

Also doesn't the poison stop at 1 hp in which case another direct hit is needed?

 

[Omegabronic]

What happens when Piccolo dodges?

he would need to somehow perfect dodge hard damaku with some projectiles 2x faster than him

 

[Omegabronic]

He nukes Sans

Also if he puts a Ki barrier he can literally chill.

sans negate physical durability as well, he is simply going to destroy the barrier as quickly as he would piccolo himself

Also doesn't the poison stop at 1 hp in which case another direct hit is needed?

no it doesn't, you have been shown clips of it killing

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Just noticed Piccolo doesn't have analytical precog

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

sans negate physical durability as well, he is simply going to destroy the barrier as quickly as he would piccolo himself


no it doesn't, you have been shown clips of it killing

Why would he interract like that with ki? Do you have any proof on that?

no it doesn't, you have been shown clips of it killing

Actually not. I linked before and everything was staying at 1 before the last hit.

he would need to somehow perfect dodge hard damaku with some projectiles 2x faster than him

Hard...some bones and some heads that shoot straight blasts which you can aimdodge. He can literally jump and leave the area.

 

[Omegabronic]

Why would he interract like that with ki? Do you have any proof on that?

the Ki has to solid to protect piccolo my dude, if it is intangible then it would simple not protect at all

Actually not. I linked before and everything was staying at 1 before the last hit.

i have no idea what you are talking about


it kills, case and point

Hard...

canonically harder than any one of the danmaku in the game

some bones and some heads that shoot straight blasts

let me use your argument, "while all that piccolo has shown to dodge was simple straight foward blasts of the same variety" besides that he will instantly know how sans will attack and where everything will come from, sure

which you can aimdodge.

you can aimdodge any projectile in any media, nothing argument

He can literally jump and leave the area.

ceiling and walls, no he can't, besides sans TK to force him back, and teleportation and time stop

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

the Ki has to solid to protect piccolo my dude, if it is intangible then it would simple not protect at all

It's an energy barrier it's not exactly solid. Also so Sans attacks are corrosive to matter also?

it kills, case and point

Are you joking? He was hit again that's why he died.

canonically harder than any one of the danmaku in the game

Doesn't matter

let me use your argument, "while all that piccolo has shown to dodge was simple straight foward blasts of the same variety" besides that he will instantly know how sans will attack and where everything will come from, sure

Fair no idea why he wouldn't go with the most straightforward assumption though

you can aimdodge any projectile in any media, nothing argument

Lol you can literally see the things which are are going to fire also it's not a nothing argument but whatever floats your boat

ceiling and walls, no he can't, besides sans TK to force him back, and teleportation and time stop

.....What are ceilings and walls gonna do? Piccolo can reach outerspace in a single step considering his strenght is the same.

 

[Omegabronic]

It's an energy barrier it's not exactly solid.

Yes it is, hence why it blocks physical attacks, besides sans ignores physical defenses with KR, trying to protect yourself will not work

Also so Sans attacks are corrosive to matter also?

He doesn't havr corrosion sooooo, besides KR affects physical stuff as well, hence frisk's armors do not matter for it

Are you joking? He was hit again that's why he died.

he was inside the attacks for too long, hence why he died, if you stay in the attacks for too long, more KR comes and you die faster

Doesn't matter

it absolutely does, saying thay it doesn't doesn't prove anything

Fair no idea why he wouldn't go with the most straightforward assumption though

Pretty sure he has never saw someone who can just summon stuff out of surfaves out of nowhere

Lol you can literally see the things which are are going to fire

which can also teleport you into their path in multiple directions to desorient you, while sending bones out of nowhere with time stop, you can't aim dodge something you are not even seeing that it is coming

also it's not a nothing argument but whatever floats your boat

My dude, you are saying that sans will perfect dodge very hard danmaku without proof, sans can equaly see what will launch the ki blasts, so he can also "aim dodge"

.....What are ceilings and walls gonna do? Piccolo can reach outerspace in a single step considering his strenght is the same.

Depends, piccolo doesn't destroy all the terain around him when he moves, if your argument is that he will out maneuver everything then he needs walls and ceiling to do so, else sans just TKs back to the ground easily enough and catches him anyway

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

.....What are ceilings and walls gonna do? Piccolo can reach outerspace in a single step considering his strenght is the same.

Piccolo is actually Hypersonic here due to Speed Equal Rules

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

he was inside the attacks for too long, hence why he died, if you stay in the attacks for too long, more KR comes and you die faster

The attacks also deal damage and I have seen no purple bar going to 0. It always stops at 1 and you need to be hit again.

Pretty sure he has never saw someone who can just summon stuff out of surfaves out of nowhere

Fair no idea why that would matter to him just dodging the attack.

My dude, you are saying that sans will perfect dodge very hard danmaku without proof, sans can equaly see what will launch the ki blasts, so he can also "aim dodge"

i never said he was not. I just said that Piccolo has aoe. If all of Piccolo's beams were just death beams he would be cooked. The only thing however which does that is SBC.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Piccolo is actually Hypersonic here due to Speed Equal Rules

Yeah however if Sans doesn't tag him he is cooked.

 

[Omegabronic]

The attacks also deal damage

.......yeah? that.....that's the point?

and I have seen no purple bar going to 0. It always stops at 1 and you need to be hit again.

why do you think that we are saying that it kills in 5 seconds max?

Fair no idea why that would matter to him just dodging the attack.

he wouldn't even know that there would be an attack for him to dodge, outside of sans constantly teleporting and time stoping and TKeing Piccolo into the attacks' path to disorient him, yet somehow he would be able to perfect dodge everything

i never said he was not. I just said that Piccolo has aoe. If all of Piccolo's beams were just death beams he would be cooked. The only thing however which does that is SBC.

my dude, the small explosions that a normal ki blast does is easily dodgeable by sans simply teleporting away,

 

[Hypertornado099]

the Ki has to solid to protect piccolo my dude, if it is intangible then it would simple not protect at all


i have no idea what you are talking about


it kills, case and point


canonically harder than any one of the danmaku in the game


let me use your argument, "while all that piccolo has shown to dodge was simple straight foward blasts of the same variety" besides that he will instantly know how sans will attack and where everything will come from, sure


you can aimdodge any projectile in any media, nothing argument


ceiling and walls, no he can't, besides sans TK to force him back, and teleportation and time stop

I think its his blasters killing Frisk there, not the karma damage over time

He doesn't need to know where they come from. They have a limited range and Piccolo could fly beyond it. Piccolo could throw a few punches, sans is gonna get hit by at least 1 and instantly die

Its not "4 seconds in hypersonic time" for the record. No idea where you're getting that from, like do you think they have conversations at hypersonic speed?

 

[XxZetsuxX]

Can someone give me a summary of whats been going on here?

Also how many votes we have right now

Too lazy to read everything, Sorry

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

I changed my vote back to piccolo
That’s about it of what I know

 

[Omegabronic]

I think its his blasters killing Frisk there, not the karma damage over time

both are the same, Karma is what allows sans to ignore physical defense

He doesn't need to know where they come from. They have a limited range and Piccolo could fly beyond it.

and sans can TK him back or teleport him or time stop, and both him, also why would he choose to go up and above immediately when he wouldn't even know an attack would come from bellow? also also, the blaster have more than enough range to hit him anyway

Piccolo could throw a few punches, sans is gonna get hit by at least 1 and instantly die

Sans has 2x reaction speed, with his being able to constantly dodge someone who knew exactly what he would do and how he moved, also this would imply that piccolo get close enough to punch sans, which is going to be hard due to the hard danmaku that sans spams in his fights + the numerous way sans has to get piccolo out of him or get him out of piccolo

Its not "4 seconds in hypersonic time" for the record. No idea where you're getting that from, like do you think they have conversations at hypersonic speed?

in the perspective of frisk(the one we are playing with in the sans fight) they die in 5 seconds in their perspective

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Sans has 2x reaction speed, with his being able to constantly dodge someone who knew exactly what he would do and how he moved, also this would imply that piccolo get close enough to punch sans, which is going to be hard due to the hard danmaku that sans spams in his fights + the numerous way sans has to get piccolo out of him or get him out of piccolo

Wouldn’t that not matter since like, speed equalized?

 

[Fezzih_007]

he wouldn't even know that there would be an attack for him to dodge

He would trought, he can sense malicious intent, so If a attack is coming from him, he would know.
He also have his hearing, which would help. Is not like Sans attacks don't make any sound.

outside of sans constantly teleporting and time stoping and TKeing Piccolo into the attacks' path to disorient him

He does all of the things one at the time trought, is not like he combo you with telerport+TK+time stop at the same time. I can agree It would be a little hard from him to deal with TK alone, but telerport he gonna adapt Very quick, and time stop is kinda whatever, since is just used to set up attacks.


Also, nothing is really stopping from him to attack Sans while this is all happening anyway.

yet somehow he would be able to perfect dodge everything

He don't exactly need to dodge everything, he just need to dodge one attack, and he gonna blast Sans right away.

 

[Serlock_Holmes]

Beyond those matches being idiotic there are also really bad to talk about.

 

[Omegabronic]

Wouldn’t that not matter since like, speed equalized?

Combat Speed is equalized, all other speed that are greater than the combat speed are still just a greater

 

[Fezzih_007]

and sans can TK him back or teleport him or time stop, and both him,

But Picollo gonna out of his range If he fly up trought.

also why would he choose to go up and above immediately when he wouldn't even know an attack would come from bellow?

The same reason in what i said in the Krillin match.
He gonna get trown to the ground, and assume the next attack gonna come from the ground, because that's where he get trown to.

also also, the blaster have more than enough range to hit him anyway

True.

with his being able to constantly dodge someone

Wtf you mean "constantly"? Sans dodge one attack from each time from Frisk, when did ever Dodge continuasly attacks from someone?

someone who knew exactly what he would do and how he moved,

Considering Frisk attacks patern are "slash one time" and he can just sidestep from the side, i don't think Frisk as being Very smart with they attack patterns.

also this would imply that piccolo get close enough to punch sans, which is going to be hard due to the hard danmaku that sans spams in his fights + the numerous way sans has to get piccolo out of him or get him out of piccolo

Not that he actually need to get close, he can just stretch his Arms.

 

[Fezzih_007]

Beyond those matches being idiotic there are also really bad to talk about.

Do you think so? I think is kinda funny.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Sans is inherently funny tbh

 

[Omegabronic]

i went back to count the votes

Piccolo 5 (Fezzih_007, FireSwordHero, Serlock_Holmes, JoshDoshMosh, Shadtboi0)

Sans 9 (Omegabronic, XxZetsuxX, Dragonite007, EnderLord8, StrymULTRA, ShionAH, Maverick_Zero_X, Harith0cell, noninho)

 

[Fezzih_007]

i went back to count the votes

Piccolo 5 (Fezzih_007, FireSwordHero, Serlock_Holmes, JoshDoshMosh, Shadtboi0)

Sans 9 (Omegabronic, XxZetsuxX, Dragonite007, EnderLord8, StrymULTRA, ShionAH, Maverick_Zero_X, Harith0cell, noninho)

Hmm, i gonna ask from Dragon Ball supports to come then.

 

[XxZetsuxX]

i went back to count the votes

Piccolo 5 (Fezzih_007, FireSwordHero, Serlock_Holmes, JoshDoshMosh, Shadtboi0)

Sans 9 (Omegabronic, XxZetsuxX, Dragonite007, EnderLord8, StrymULTRA, ShionAH, Maverick_Zero_X, Harith0cell, noninho)

Aight, Thanks, also didn't we just reached grace?

Or i'm getting anything wrong?

 

[Omegabronic]

But Picollo gonna out of his range If he fly up trought.

the area they are fighting in is not big enough for that, besides piccolo would need to somehow go too fast for sans to just bring him back down, which is not happening with sans having faster reactions

The same reason in what i said in the Krillin match.
He gonna get trown to the ground, and assume the next attack gonna come from the ground, because that's where he get trown to.

no he will assume what happens every time in dragon ball, that sans will follow up with an attack from above, because that is what every db char does when they trow someone at the ground

True.

good

Wtf you mean "constantly"? Sans dodge one attack from each time from Frisk

just as he would dodge the attacks from piccolo

, when did ever Dodge continuasly attacks from someone?

Instinctive action, he dodges even while asleep

Considering Frisk attacks patern are "slash one time" and he can just sidestep from the side, i don't think Frisk as being Very smart with they attack patterns.

also firearms and numerous other projectiles from all the other Weapons in undertale, besides all of that doesn't really debunk the fact that he could still dodge perfectly against someone who knew exactly how he would move

Not that he actually need to get close, he can just stretch his Arms.

which is the same since sans could just attacking the arm for the same effect to kill him

 

[Omegabronic]

Aight, Thanks, also didn't we just reached grace?

Or i'm getting anything wrong?

we did

 

[XxZetsuxX]

we did

Yesterday it was grace with 8-4, So shouldn't we add to their profiles?

 

[Omegabronic]

Yesterday it was grace with 8-4, So shouldn't we add to their profiles?

it was? well, if so you can go and ask for it to be added to sans' profile in the Versus matches addition thread

 

[XxZetsuxX]

it was? well, if so you can go and ask for it to be added to sans' profile in the Versus matches addition thread

I'm still kinda new to VSbattles so i don't know what to do

Can you do it please?

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Ngl, I kinda do a Sans thread, just gotta find a funny MU