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ok so Gumball can survive the First attack normally regardless right?
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Sans vs Gumball Watterson (0-0-0) (STOMP)
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Frisk does take damage from his slams at the end, that's the whole reason his TK is 9-A LMFAO
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If he can survive his soul being broken into Itty bitty pieces in less then a second, sure! Cause Sans only has 39 non-regenable health to get through in regards to his soul
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Yeah, he still needs to reach it and press numbers on it to use it
Well, gumball's hp is apparently useless here since it isn't soul based
So?
Determination, they did something similar in the asriel fight
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did you even see the correction?
He survived easily even without Soul resistance and Karma added (if your talking about the console thing)
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Is it the case that:
1. Sans uses Blue Mode & Telekinesis to throw the SOUL into the wall?
2. Blue Mode applies Gravity Manipulation to the SOUL, making it have to jump to move around the Bullet Board like a platformer, rather than moving freely.
3. Some instances of Blue Mode Telekinesis/Gravity Manipulation don't do damage to the SOUL? If so, when & why?
1. Sans uses Blue Mode & Telekinesis to throw the SOUL into the wall?
2. Blue Mode applies Gravity Manipulation to the SOUL, making it have to jump to move around the Bullet Board like a platformer, rather than moving freely.
3. Some instances of Blue Mode Telekinesis/Gravity Manipulation don't do damage to the SOUL? If so, when & why?
Almost certainly yeah.
Why does Gumball only have 39 HP in this circumstance?
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And did you even saw his point? Gumball's hp has no prove of being soul based, so it is useless here
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999 health in regards to his Physical body. 20 in regards to his soul.
Why would his HP carry on over to his soul?
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Ah right.
Lack of evidence RPG Gumball's HP is indicative of his Soul's survivability, & 20 being baseline HP for a human with a SOUL in UT's system, right?
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Yeah
didn't understood the question
When sans tries really hard because frisk is so much stronger then him
Not acctually since his hp is not soul based
His console hp is not soul based
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yeah
he does have another win con with the remote though if we decide to rid of his soul resistance (this one isn't changed tbh)
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Correct, while Gumball ain't a human it's the most info we have for soul health since Monster soul health is completely unknown
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I'd honestly call for verse equalization on the HP points
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please no
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When the SOUL is Red, it can float & move around freely in any direction, within the area called the Bullet Board, right?
It's Gravity Manipulation that affects the SOUL for Blue Mode to send the SOUL to the "floor" of the Bullet Board, so that the SOUL can only move by going horizontally &/or jumping. Similar to how a character in a platformer game controls; Not flying freely in any direction, but moving by running & jumping.
These limitations, to prevent the SOUL moving freely are a form of SOUL-affecting Gravity Manipulation, right?
Verse Equalization isn't valid here? Why not?
Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashion. So a supernatural energy that almost everyone in a Verse has, which is necessary to fight the characters of said Verse, will be assumed to be the equivalent energy that the opponents use in their techniques so that a proper fight can happen.
Furthermore, attacks that require a special type of energy to be effective, like anti-magic requiring magic, will be assumed to work against the energies of different Verses, as long as they are somehow similar and the mechanics are somehow compatible with the known mechanics behind the energies from different Verses. For example, mind control resistance by being a capable mind user would also work against other Verses, but mind control resistance through a strong will would not necessarily work against mind control from other Verses. It is also important to note that characters won't lose or gain any abilities or resistances which they do or do not inherently possess. However, if an ability has a weakness, condition, caveat, or limitation, consistently shown throughout its use (such as not working on characters under a specific condition, like energy gap) or stated by a valid and uncontradicted statement, then it should be applicable after the equalization.
Equalization works highly on a case-by-case basis, so many relevant cases should be discussed in the versus thread itself.
Furthermore, attacks that require a special type of energy to be effective, like anti-magic requiring magic, will be assumed to work against the energies of different Verses, as long as they are somehow similar and the mechanics are somehow compatible with the known mechanics behind the energies from different Verses. For example, mind control resistance by being a capable mind user would also work against other Verses, but mind control resistance through a strong will would not necessarily work against mind control from other Verses. It is also important to note that characters won't lose or gain any abilities or resistances which they do or do not inherently possess. However, if an ability has a weakness, condition, caveat, or limitation, consistently shown throughout its use (such as not working on characters under a specific condition, like energy gap) or stated by a valid and uncontradicted statement, then it should be applicable after the equalization.
Equalization works highly on a case-by-case basis, so many relevant cases should be discussed in the versus thread itself.
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Once again, why would HP in regards to the physical body be HP in Regards to then soul? Verse Equalization don't work like that
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Ah okay. I guess I got confused because they're both HP stats, but fair.
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If the boss fight was Sans vs another monster, yeah, I'd see your point, but it ain't so...
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You mean another UT monster where Verses wouldn't need to be equalized anyway becausr they're already from the same system?
I thought it was about what the HP represented, not the species.
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I mean that physical attacks tend to drop down a Monster's HP bar(Napstablook and Mad Dummy are notable exceptions)
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ok, the answer is yes
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This could work though he still might do TK (though I don't think that will prevent him form speaking still) and later his bone attacks
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is this in character for gumball? also i don't see how he would be able to talk to sans when being slamed left and right and attacked form multiple directions at the same time
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not really he uses his Hax equipment
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He has high enough pain tolerance against turbulence from getting tossed off a broom against the street
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it affects bones right since it makes them like the bones of an old person (Gumballs bones immediately broke after the thing occurred). Wouldn't that be like limited Bone Manip?
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Ooh, fair point!
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and being hit by falling objects while falling
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Nah, he only did it so he and Darwin could hang out with the elderly citizens, and since he's in-character for this fight I highly doubt he's gonna go "I better age this weird skeleton guy into dust!"
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true though again he has the remote as a win con
which has been a back and forth on who is faster in doing their moves
DaMonkeMan
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Lol.
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wait isn't this like limited resistance to gravity manip. He literally stopped falling to then go and reach robert
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Flight/Hovering.
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