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I mean he ***** shit up in his own system so why wouldn't he in another lmfaoSaNS can OVERRIDE the RPG systems of oTheR gameS!!!!
I'll stop being a jerk
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I mean he ***** shit up in his own system so why wouldn't he in another lmfaoSaNS can OVERRIDE the RPG systems of oTheR gameS!!!!
I'll stop being a jerk
NahThe Sans wankers happened.
an assumption that he affects other RPG systems but ok (it's not his game, why would he???)I mean he ***** shit up in his own system so why wouldn't he in another lmfao
Unless you have a reason as for why he wouldn't be able to when both systems are identical in the regard discussed.....SaNS can OVERRIDE the RPG systems of oTheR gameS!!!!
I'll stop being a jerk
Man you don't wanna know what they've been doing in lesser threadsThe Sans wankers happened.
identical???Unless you have a reason as for why he wouldn't be able to when both systems are identical in the regard discussed.....
Gumball only has "likely" in his profile, you could always restrict itWelp. Time to search for a different character I know and like that can actually stand a chance against the unstoppableand wankedforce that is sans Undertale
lol seeing it already is funnyMan you don't wanna know what they've been doing in lesser threads
"in the regard discussed."identical???
seriously????
it looks and acts significantly different
Somehow I forgot to account for this. Lol.Gumball can live without a soul. That means Sans literally can't do anything meaningful except put him into a bunch of pain lmfao
Yeah, Undertale is a bullet hell+RPG hybrid, with some SMT-like diplomacy mechanics with a single player character.identical???
seriously????
it looks and acts significantly different
not like gumball won't survive his first attack with his regen, healing, and much higher HP than Level 19 FriskGumball only has "likely" in his profile, you could always restrict it
is that allowed?Gumball only has "likely" in his profile, you could always restrict it
Proof of this regenning his soul? Lolnot like gumball won't survive his first attack with his regen, healing, and much higher HP than Level 19 Frisk
it's his HP?Proof of this regenning his soul? Lol
Beerus was ruled as a stomp and Crabwhale closed it.when i put him against beerus and jire you won't laugh
Can he regen his soul? Plus as explained by @Imaginym gumball would suffer thousands of damagenot like gumball won't survive his first attack with his regen, healing, and much higher HP than Level 19 Frisk
Unsure Regeneration/Healing would save him without his Soul Manipulation Resistance, unless Gumball's Regeneration/Healing are on a soul-affecting level.not like gumball won't survive his first attack with his regen, healing, and much higher HP than Level 19 Frisk
Yes for "possible/likely" abbilitiesis that allowed?
HOW.Plus as explained by @Imaginym gumball would suffer thousands of damage
the damage is TK not Soul baseCan he regen his soul? Plus as explained by @Imaginym gumball would suffer thousands of damage
Soul attacks in Sans' case are fair dinkum dura neg that damage the soul specificallyit's his HP?
and that matters still since it means he has more hits to resist
he hit's 1 hp per frameHOW.
HP still matters as shown in Undertales fightSoul attacks in Sans' case are fair dinkum dura neg that damage the soul specifically
HP is in regards to the soul in this case.HP still matters as shown in Undertales fight
he still has much more than Frisk in Level 19 so should easily survive regardlessHP is in regards to the soul in this case.
Proof of this HP being in regards to his soul and not his physicality?he still has much more than Frisk in Level 19 so should easily survive regardless
ok true butProof of this HP being in regards to his soul and not his physicality?
He needs to reach the cellphone for that, which is kinda hard when getting slamed in multiple directions and attacked@Imaginym
Gumball has 2 routes
Remote or Console
for Console
he overrides the RPG system as well so i don't matter that San's is first since he does AOE summons
He doesn't, unless he dodges 84% of it as explained by Imaginym earlierplus he easily outlasted the Strongest attack
he doesn't tho? Are you going to ignore the explanations given or...?for remote
he press button faster than san's TK Slaming him
Don't you just love it when your opposition ignores arguments?ok true but
he has the remote route
which is him pressing a button to freeze Sans
he already is aiming and just needs to push the buttonHe doesn't tho? Are you going to ignore the explanations given or...?
Don't you just love it when your opposition ignores arguments?
I've been answering every argument directed at me and some on the side lolas if that applies to only one side but ok
Sans deals 1 damage per frame of contact in a game locked at 30 frames per second.HOW.
HOW.
Lol.
I mean, it's questionable if Gumball can even perceive, let alone dodge Sans's opening move, let alone SURVIVE, even if he has his RPG Mode 999 HP.
IDK if the initial swing downwards to send the newly Blue-ified SOUL to the bottom of the bullet board is supposed to deal damage, but:
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Watching at 30 FPS (Undertale is locked to 30 FPS, & Sans deals 1 damage per frame, KARMA aside, which is complicated. If I understand right, different attacks increase the KARMA count by different amounts on the 1st frame they hit the SOUL, but subsequent frames in an attack that already hit/inflicted KARMA only increment it by 1.
Using the Undertale Wiki's example: "One Gaster Blaster hit for three frames increases KARMA by 12, dealing an eventual total of 15 damage)." (1 Gaster Blaster increases KARMA by 10 the 1st frame that hitbox is stayed in, & like any other KARMA incrementer, 1 more KARMA per frame that hitbox that already hit the SOUL is remained in.)
The 1st frame where the screen moves from the "impact" of the SOUL hitting the bullet board is 399.
The last frame where I can see any part of what might have a hitbox is frame 605.
I forget if that's supposed to be inclusive of frames 399 & 605 themselves, but 605 - 399 = 206.
206 frames * 30 damage per frame = 6,180.
Meaning if we're accounting for Sans's attacks as dealing 1 damage per frame of contact, & we assume Gumball was in a hitbox during EVERY FRAME of Sans's first attack, he'd take over 6,180 damage, BEFORE accounting for any KARMA.
Mind you, this doesn't account for Sans missing, or there being gaps in Sans's attack such that Gumball isn't hit 100% of the time this is happening....
But if Gumball can't perceive to dodge the attacks, he'd be dodging blindly, unless he has some kind of Extrasensory Perception or Soul Manipulation that's relevant here.
Otherwise, 999 HP will not let Gumball survive unless he somehow doesn't get hit by like, at least 84% of Sans's attacks during Sans's first attack.
Yes it is since it is used on the soulthe damage is TK not Soul base
the Karma wasn't added yet so it's irrelevent
Blue mode? Whar is your point?he hit's 1 hp per frame
b/c blue soul mode touches ground which makes Frisk lose 1 HP
I don't agree since that isn't happening in the fight until the end
While being slammed and getting tossed?ok true but
he has the remote route
which is him pressing a button to freeze Sans
Proof of that? Why would he be aiming already?he already is aiming and just needs to push the button
broSans deals 1 damage per frame of contact in a game locked at 30 frames per second.
His first attack, from roughly the 1st to the last time Frisk/Chara's SOUL can get hit, is around 206 frames.
....Oh wait I'm an idiot.
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206 FRAMES. NOT SECONDS. (People would cry if Sans's 1st attack lasted that long, because that's nearly 3 & a half minutes.)
Roughly 206 frames, roughly 1 damage per frame.
Also, KARMA can be incremented, up to a max of 40. It drains slower the more of it there is.
According to the UT Wiki, on the 1st frame a hitbox is hitting, it increments the following amount of KARMA based on hitbox type:
Sans's various attacks increase KARMA by different amounts:
Continuing to be in a hitbox that already did a hit, providing KARMA makes further hits from that hitbox only add 1 KARMA per frame.
- Bone vertical loop: 5
- Gaster Blaster: 10
- Single menu bone (top left): 2
- Four menu bones (bottom): 1
- Other: 6
(e.g. one Gaster Blaster hit for three frames increases KARMA by 12, dealing an eventual total of 15 damage).
Oh, & here's the numbers on KARMA Drain rate:
KARMA takes one frame to drain if maxed out at 40, two frames to drain if between 30 and 39, five frames to drain if between 20 and 29, fifteen frames (or half a second) to drain if between 10 and 19, and thirty frames (or one second) to drain if between 1 and 9. This means that KARMA when maxed out drains halfway within 66 frames (2.2 seconds) and completely within 491 frames (~16.4 seconds).
IDK how we account for the damage & KARMA Drain rate & the 206 frame time period.
So uh yeah, I apologize for stupidly misinforming you all.
But yeah. Since KARMA can't be more than 40 at a time (Game mechanics?), & there's only 206 frames, with 1 damage for each of them, Sans's 1st attack is 206, more or less, plus up to 40 or a bit more??
Sans's 1st attack likely won't deplete even a QUARTER of RPG Gumball's Max HP. (999 / 4 = 249.75.)
Are you assuming Gumball has to reach for the cellphone AFTER his 1 hour of preptime the OP says Gumball has?He needs to reach the cellphone for that, which is kinda hard when getting slamed in multiple directions and attacked
Actually I confused frames with seconds earlier; Sans's 1st attack would likely deal around a quarter or less of Gumball's max HP, depending on Karma math & assuming little to no dodging/resistance.He doesn't, unless he dodges 84% of it as explained by Imaginym earlier
He needs to slam his arm downward firstWhile being slammed and getting tossed?