Sans vs Gumball Watterson (0-0-0) (STOMP)

[DaReaperMan]

I did now read mines again

Gumball has to point and press a button. Pointing in the fashion he'd be doing it is the same action as a hardwave.

 

[Board3659]

Okay, but details?

Lol.
I mean, it's questionable if Gumball can even perceive, let alone dodge Sans's opening move, let alone SURVIVE, even if he has his RPG Mode 999 HP.

Gumball goes first regardless if sans can in Undertale is shown so often in the Episode

 

[Imaginym]

Gumball needs to point to sans, find the button, move his finger to it and press it, sans only needs to move his hand

I wonder how Gumball's 1 hour of preptime specified by the OP influences this.

 

[Board3659]

Gumball has to point and press a button. Pointing in the fashion he'd be doing it is the same action as a hardwave.

he would already be pointing he isn't that dumb to not do that
Plus he can move to point and press at the same time

 

[Board3659]

I wonder how Gumball's 1 hour of preptime specified by the OP influences this.

not much tbh since he already goes for his more hax based weapons anyway

He isn't stupid to use the notebook so will go for either console or remote

 

[Omegabronic]

Then why doesn't he teleport them any further then or timestop to recover stamina if it's not connected to his stamina

Because it isn't his objective in the scene? He already gave up the fight by that point, he only wants to make frisk give up

Would he even look when it should be like most remotes and at the top (especially when he seen it before)

He still needs to look to the control, even then him point and moving him finger to press it is slower than sans just moving his hand

Also, has he ever teleported to actually fight?

I can't remember when he has ever done that

He never needed to, but it is logical that he would if he needed, but idk why that point matters when tp was not a main point here

 

[DaReaperMan]

Gumball goes first regardless if sans can in Undertale is shown so often in the Episode

Here's the thing.

Frisk goes first in Undertale for literally every fight that isn't the one that yeets the system entirely.

Sans goes first against Frisk. Ez game he goes first here.

he would already be pointing he isn't that dumb to not do that
Plus he can move to point and press at the same time

Proof of him pointing in advance, or is this an assumption your making.

Also, Gumball could **** up and push the button first and fail.

 

[Omegabronic]

Btw, y'all wanna see something COOL!?

Okay, stomp thread then, should be closed

 

[Board3659]

He still needs to look to the control, even then him point and moving him finger to press it is slower than sans just moving his hand

he would already be pointing and sans moving his hand should take longer or be the same as a button press

He never needed to, but it is logical that he would if he needed, but idk why that point matters when tp was not a main point here

Is it even in character for him to do it?

He never did it against a Genocidal child why would he here?

 

[DaReaperMan]

Is it even in character for him to do it?

He never did it against a Genocidal child why would he here?

It's weird. But uh, he didn't need to, he could literally dodge Frisk's attacks in his sleep

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Okay, stomp thread then, should be closed

Yeah maybe it should.

 

[Ikelaggan]

Okay, stomp thread then, should be closed

Bruh, why you pulling that DBZ copeium card and calling it a stomp now.

 

[Board3659]

Here's the thing.

Frisk goes first in Undertale for literally every fight that isn't the one that yeets the system entirely.

Sans goes first against Frisk. Ez game he goes first here.

He got rid of the Undertale combat system but would he in this one?

Proof of him pointing in advance, or is this an assumption your making.

Also, Gumball could **** up and push the button first and fail.

He is determined to win so would do optimal stuff like point in advance. He isn't that dumb to not do that

 

[Imaginym]

Gumball goes first regardless if sans can in Undertale is shown so often in the Episode

What's the indication Gumball always goes first? Is there dialogue about it or such? Timestamp? Sorry about the dumb question.
Asking in large part because Sans took the 1st move against Frisk & Chara despite them having an unstated rule to always go first in their battle system.

So unless RPG Gumball has an "I override other effects to always go first" or Gumball's RPG's system overrides the rules Sans uses (Verse equalized or otherwise.) to go first, I'm worried Sans might still go first anyway.

 

[Board3659]

Bruh, why you pulling that DBZ copeium card and calling it a stomp now.

yeah fells kind of dumb how sudden it was but whatever

 

[Board3659]

What's the indication Gumball always goes first? Is there dialogue about it or such? Timestamp? Sorry about the dumb question.
Asking in large part because Sans took the 1st move against Frisk & Chara despite them having an unstated rule to always go first in their battle system.

So unless RPG Gumball has an "I override other effects to always go first" or Gumball's RPG's system overrides the rules Sans uses (Verse equalized or otherwise.) to go first, I'm worried Sans might still go first anyway.

It's an assumption to assume Sans can override other RPG systems when he only did it to his own

All fights show him attacking first

 

[Imaginym]

Proof of him pointing in advance, or is this an assumption your making.

What's wrong with him having done so during his preptime?

 

[Omegabronic]

Bruh, why you pulling that DBZ copeium card and calling it a stomp now.

Gumball resists soul manipulation and can live without his soul, that invalidates sans' only wincon and way to deal damage

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Bruh, why you pulling that DBZ copeium card and calling it a stomp now.

I swear to Allah if another ******* person tries to dismiss an argument as DB fanboy shit I'm going to lose it.
Tell me how Sans wins if Gumball resists Time Manip and Soul Manip.
Go ahead.

 

[Imaginym]

It's an assumption to assume Sans can override other RPG systems when he only did it to his own

Is it your stance that it's NLF Fallacy that Sans can override Gumball's RPG system so that Sans goes first?

 

[Imaginym]

I swear to Allah if another ******* person tries to dismiss an argument as DB fanboy shit I'm going to lose it.
Tell me how Sans wins if Gumball resists Time Manip and Soul Manip.
Go ahead.

Do Sans's bones & beams have any physicality?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Do Sans's bones & beams have any physicality?

I'm done.

 

[Board3659]

I swear to Allah if another ******* person tries to dismiss an argument as DB fanboy shit I'm going to lose it.
Tell me how Sans wins if Gumball resists Time Manip and Soul Manip.
Go ahead.

he basically doesn't I mean the way is apparently to use TK but Gumball should be faster at using his remote than Sans slamming down

 

[Board3659]

Is it your stance that it's NLF Fallacy that Sans can override Gumball's RPG system so that Sans goes first?

how is it a fallacy?
we don't assume he can override other systems???

Wouldn't that mean every over match with an RPG system has him override it or what

 

[DaReaperMan]

Yeah maybe it should.

It should regardless-

He got rid of the Undertale combat system but would he in this one?

He is determined to win so would do optimal stuff like point in advance. He isn't that dumb to not do that

Becuase Gumball's system wouldn't activate before Sans has already begun his first attack

So it's an assumption?

Do Sans's bones & beams have any physicality?

They're 10-B right now.

he basically doesn't I mean the way is apparently to use TK but Gumball should be faster at using his remote than Sans slamming down

Which would be fine if Sans could do any meaningful damage lmfao

 

[Board3659]

ig this is a stomp regardless if Sans overrides the RPG system

(plus Gumball just regenerates from the 1 damage per frame done) that Imaginym stated

 

[Ikelaggan]

I swear to Allah if another ******* person tries to dismiss an argument as DB fanboy shit I'm going to lose it.
Tell me how Sans wins if Gumball resists Time Manip and Soul Manip.
Go ahead.

I'm sorry brother but sans thread are doomed to drag once we've reach the dreaded this point.

 

[Imaginym]

I'm done.

My apologies.
I genuinely have a bad memory, & wasn't sure if it's a case where the bones hit both physically & hit magically/the SOUL.

It should regardless-

Becuase Gumball's system wouldn't activate before Sans has already begun his first attack

Presuming Gumball hasn't activated the system during preptime.

They're 10-B right now.

Ah. So the physical bones aren't a threat, only the SOUL Manipulating ones?

Which would be fine if Sans could do any meaningful damage lmfao

I mean, I did the math earlier.

Gumball isn't IMMUNE to Soul Manipulation, just resistant.

& I did the math earlier. If Gumball was in position to be hit for the entire duration of Sans's 1st attack, it'd deal over 6,000 damage.
Assuming we're using Gumball's 999 HP, Gumball's resistance, & any dodging he somehow manages to do, would need to prevent over 84% of the damage.

Is Gumball's SOUL Manipulation Resistance strong enough to actually lessen the damage Sans does that much?

 

[DaReaperMan]

My apologies.
I genuinely have a bad memory, & wasn't sure if it's a case where the bones hit both physically & hit magically/the SOUL.

Presuming Gumball hasn't activated the system during preptime.

Ah. So the physical bones aren't a threat, only the SOUL Manipulating ones?

I mean, I did the math earlier.

Gumball isn't IMMUNE to Soul Manipulation, just resistant.

& I did the math earlier. If Gumball was in position to be hit for the entire duration of Sans's 1st attack, it'd deal over 6,000 damage.
Assuming we're using Gumball's 999 HP, Gumball's resistance, & any dodging he somehow manages to do, would need to prevent over 84% of the damage.

Is Gumball's SOUL Manipulation Resistance strong enough to actually lessen the damage Sans does that much?

Gumball can live without a soul. That means Sans literally can't do anything meaningful except put him into a bunch of pain lmfao

 

[Board3659]

I should remake some of Gumballs past fights since he had a recent revision so I'll do that

 

[Ikelaggan]

I'm done.

The real question is if you put his bones on a pizza would it physically be boneless.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

The real question is if you put his bones on a pizza would it physically be boneless.

I love bone-in Pizza.

 

[Board3659]

Assuming we're using Gumball's 999 HP, Gumball's resistance, & any dodging he somehow manages to do, would need to prevent over 84% of the damage.

He just regenerates b/c he has that
1 per frame likley won't cut it also Gumball is shown to dodge some Danmaku (or at least a barrage of hits)

I'm done anyway

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

i was gone for like, an hour. wtf happened here?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

i was gone for like, an hour. wtf happened here?

The Sans wankers happened.

 

[Board3659]

i was gone for like, an hour. wtf happened here?

oh a war and then we realized Gumball stomps with Soul and time stop resistance and

 

[DaReaperMan]

?

But uh, to actually answer the question, Sans' bones should scale to Papyrus's which are semi-physical and his beams are Non-Physical

i was gone for like, an hour. wtf happened here?

Yer match was decided to suck

 

[Board3659]

The Sans wankers happened.

SaNS can OVERRIDE the RPG systems of oTheR gameS!!!!

I'll stop being a jerk

 

[LeoEpicGamer8910]

Gumball stomps with Soul and time stop resistance

Ok. Maybe I wasn't paying attention the last time I saw Gumball but how did that happen?

The Sans wankers happened.

makes sense

Yer match was decided to suck

shit

 

[Board3659]

Gumball also overides his OWN RPG system lol