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Not composite, cross scaling is validable. We been over this hundred of times...
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The cross scaling only applies to its own universe, not to the rest, and we only use it for the power and speed (physical statistics) of the characters, not for the abilities of the characters that can have different abilities in the universes, for example the Apollo of Overture is much more powerful than the Apollo of the main universe (where he is not stronger than Athena, Hades, Poseidon and Zeus).Not composite, cross scaling is validable. We been over this hundred of times...
The cosmology of the verse is not important, because they are different versions of these characters in the different universes, even some of these gods are very different, for example Ares in Sho and TLC or Artemis in Overture and ND. This is not unlike Saints like Seiya, who have a different profile for each version of the character.My cosmology blog will help explain why it's valid. Once I'm finished
GA confirms what I said, where each universe has different versions of Athena, and an Athena like Yoshino and Tomoe have a power (name it as "dance") that Saori does not have. There is also the Dark Wing universe, where Athena has a power that the other Athena's in the franchise do not have, the purifying flames that can erase a being from existence. The rest of the franchise also confirms this with the different versions of the same god in the different universes, for example Ares in TLC and Sho, Artemis in ND and Overture, Apollo in ND and Overture, Typhon in TLC, Episode.G and Gigantomachy, Enceladus in TLC and Gigantomachy (also in the TLC universe the Gigas are immortal gods, in the Gigantomachy universe they are not immortal and only Typhon was an immortal god), etc.Yet GA contradicts what you say![]()
What project are u working on currently, and how far along is it1.) As ND explains there can only be 1 fully awakened Athena. No this doesn't contradict me as I will explain more below.
2.) Athena chose to reincarnate as a human. She isn't picking vessels or creating vessels. Thus choosing to live amongst them that also means she fractured and sundered her existence to create multiple incarnations BUT they are all still Athena. She is a divine will stretched across the multiverse. Think of it as a hive mind. My cosmology blog will go more into detail about this. This information comes from the Taizen, hypermyth, light novels and the classic series.
3.) There cannot CANNOT be 2 of the same beings in a single timeline. Yet, Tomoe (who isn't even an awakened Athena), Yoshino (again not awakened) existed in the same universe without consequence. Infact Yoshino existed for years alongside Soari Athena. Thus proving my point further THEIR ALL THE SAME ATHENA not separate different ones.
4.) Zeus has literally 5 statements proving he us a singular existence. You can't get any more explicitly than those 5 statements.
5.) The Underworld is literally stated to be connected to the multiverse. Again, VERY EXPLICIT. it's a direct statement. It's not vague, its not hyperbole, it's not any literally device. You can't make any excuse with how DIRECT it is.
6.) Anime is wholly a different timeline in the multiverse, but It still cross scales, but more caution is needed.
So take your headcanon and nonsense somewhere else.
That's all I'm going to say I will not continue this conversation we had hundreds of times. It's disgusting at how much direct statements are ignored for the sake of headcanon arguments that only work if you purposely twist the context.
My blogs will do the explaining for me. But it will take me sometime to create
Cosmo verse power page is waiting on cosmology blog Which I'm waiting on acfew more GR chapters. The last 2 chapters provided critically important information so I'm waiting for more contextWhat project are u working on currently, and how far along is it
Let me just say the cosmology is wack and we could get massive tier 1 upgrades but I need to check with some smart people lolI see.
Each universe has its own Athena, this is explained in each series. In ND it is only explained that the precensia of Athena of the future is interfering with the awakening and the appearance of Athena of the past, because it is altering the timeline, the gods are affected by the changes of time in this franchise.1.) As ND explains there can only be 1 fully awakened Athena. No this doesn't contradict me as I will explain more below.
The Athena of each universe, or of most universes, is reincarnated in a human, which can be different in the universes, an example are Saori, Cattleya, Yoshino and Tomoe. And these Athens may have different powers or abilities in the universes, for example Cattleya, Yoshino and Tomoe have a power that Saori or any other Athena from another universe does not have. Athena is not a single goddess in the multiverse, there are multiple incarnations of this goddess throughout the multiverse, and each of these Athena is simply a different version of the goddess..) Athena chose to reincarnate as a human. She isn't picking vessels or creating vessels. Thus choosing to live amongst them that also means she fractured and sundered her existence to create multiple incarnations BUT they are all still Athena. She is a divine will stretched across the multiverse. Think of it as a hive mind. My cosmology blog will go more into detail about this.
Wrong, two Athenas can exist in the same place, although this brings problems to the timeline, and this was only because it is the same Athena from the same timeline in Next Dimension. And Tomoe was going to fight Saori if the battle hadn't stopped, and Yoshino only woke up as Athena at the end of the manga, after that we don't know the girl's fate.3.) There cannot CANNOT be 2 of the same beings in a single timeline. Yet, Tomoe (who isn't even an awakened Athena), Yoshino (again not awakened) existed in the same universe without consequence. Infact Yoshino existed for years alongside Soari Athena. Thus proving my point further THEIR ALL THE SAME ATHENA not separate different ones.
Zeus never says that in the manga, and we can even see that this version of Zeus comes from another universe, where the story is different. Also, Kurumada's version of Zeus according to the interviews is not an evil god.4.) Zeus has literally 5 statements proving he us a singular existence. You can't get any more explicitly than those 5 statements.
The Underworld is not connected to anything. Aiolos uses the power of the Black Core (the power of Chronos) to create a gateway between two universes. Furthermore, we could even see that the Underworld was completely destroyed in the main universe with the death of Hades and in the Darkwing universe with Athena's attack. It is clear that each universe has its own version of the Underworld, created by its own version of Hades.5.) The Underworld is literally stated to be connected to the multiverse. Again, VERY EXPLICIT. it's a direct statement. It's not vague, its not hyperbole, it's not any literally device. You can't make any excuse with how DIRECT it is.
All the series in the franchise are in different timelines, the anime is no different from the other spin-offs of this franchise.6.) Anime is wholly a different timeline in the multiverse on the Manga. It still cross scales, but more caution is needed.
The theory of multiversal gods or a great will is just part of your headcanon and a complete nonsense to what is explained in the franchise.So take your headcanon and nonsense somewhere else.
That's all I'm going to say I will not continue this conversation we had hundreds of times. It's disgusting at how much direct statements are ignored for the sake of headcanon arguments that only work if you purposely twist the context.
My blogs will do the explaining for me. But it will take me sometime to create
Yes, because you insist with a nonsense that is never said in the manga, even when it was explained to you several times that you are wrong.I'm not even going to argue. It's just an infinite loop with neither side yielding at all. There's no point.
Even though everything I said is properly explained in series
Why do you keep insisting on this nonsense that is never mentioned in the original manga, where the concept of the "big will" does not exist in that form. How many times are you going to repeat that Hypermyth is not canon.She is a divine will stretched across the multiverse. Think of it as a hive mind. My cosmology blog will go more into detail about this.
By feats, but that's not unusual in this franchise, where 90% of the characters don't have feats and everything is powerscaling with other characters of their level that do have feats. In this case Zeus is 2-C by powerscaling and his feats are 5-C (which is not a bad feat considering that many gods in the franchise have even less impressive feats).Says the guy who said
Zeus is 5-C
Gods don't have mid godly regen
Type 9 immortality gold saints via nirvana
It is not canon and never was canon, the Hypermyth was just a mini story where Kurumada did not participate in any way, even does not appear credited in this story or the magazine. And it is also contradicted in Saintia Sho, where Ares' army is called Phantoms, not Berserkers.And the Hypermyth is canon, but it's conjecture by the Graad foundation so any statements from gods>>>>>>>>>what's in hypermyth, but that doesn't make it all wrong, just like any real life research paper/published article.
Most of what is described in the Hypermyth is never mentioned in the Taizen, and Gigantomachy was not supervized by Kurumada, that's why it has a lot of mistakes with Kurumada's work (even the one that was published at that time as the original manga), even the author himself said that he didn't write this story to be canon. And Saintia Sho that if it was a work supervized by Kurumada and even says that the author developed the concept of this story, it contradicts the Hypermyth giving Ares a new story and a new army.The hypermyth was literally released twice, mentioned in the taizen, used in Giganomechia which was supervised by Kurumada and directly stated canon, but ok bro, love your head canon.
Honestly at this point, I don't even know if you've read the series. You sound like a comicvine Saint Seiya hater.
scan.author himself said that he didn't write this story to be canon.
ok? literally 0 relevance. The hypermyth can be freely contradicted and it doesn't change anything, it's a research piece. idk why this basic stuff just seems to hit a brick wall with you. It's even stated by Kurumada that "one day the true hypermyth will be shown" implying he fully intends on contradicting it, but that doesn't change it's canonicity. Like bruh, fr not hard to understand.And Saintia Sho that if it was a work supervized by Kurumada and even says that the author developed the concept of this story, it contradicts the Hypermyth giving Ares a new story and a new army.
Literally, the author himself names this work as a fake chapter in the Next Dimension Group interview.scan.
ok? literally 0 relevance. The hypermyth can be freely contradicted and it doesn't change anything, it's a research piece. idk why this basic stuff just seems to hit a brick wall with you. It's even stated by Kurumada that "one day the true hypermyth will be shown" implying he fully intends on contradicting it, but that doesn't change it's canonicity. Like bruh, fr not hard to understand.
That doesn't mean anything, the Taizen doesn't appear either, so I guess it's not canon by your standards.Even the Gigantomachy is not mentioned in the franchise timeline published on the official website.
It's a work that doesn't even appear on the official site's timeline, even when other works in the franchise appear on that timeline. This indicates that Kurumada Pro does not even consider these works as part of the franchise. And Taizen is not a story, it is a guide or a databook.That doesn't mean anything, the Taizen doesn't appear either, so I guess it's not canon by your standards.
Guess works not done by Kurumada such as Soul of Gold and Omega can hold more authority over Kurumada's works huh.
Guess we can conclude from this that Dark Wing cannot be considered canon until it's put on the website huh, especially since the website was updated in Feb of this year and Dark Wing was announced November last year, meaning Kurumada/Saint Seiya has not bothered to make Dark Wing canon yet.It's a work that doesn't even appear on the official site's timeline, even when other works in the franchise appear on that timeline. This indicates that they are not even considered official works of the franchise. And Taizen is not a story, it is a guide or a databook.
Soul of Gold and Omega are considered as part of the continuity of the anime, because Kurumada did not work on these series, although it is said that he contributed some basic ideas.
Dark Wing was released several years after the last update of the information on the official site, unlike Gigantomachy, which was released in 2002 and is not named on the official site. The timeline page and character descriptions have not been updated since the site started. Although the news section of the site does publish news about Dark Wing.Guess we can conclude from this that Dark Wing cannot be considered canon until it's put on the website huh, especially since the website was updated in Feb of this year and Dark Wing was announced November last year, meaning Kurumada/Saint Seiya has not bothered to make Dark Wing canon yet.
It has been years since the Museum's section on the official site has been updated, and as I said the timeline is one of the examples of this Wiki to define what is canon, and in this timeline they didn't name Gigantomachy and those stories as part of the franchise, even when they were published in 1988 and 2002.Seems like a double standard bro, if the site is getting updated as you say and they're not adding Dark Wing to the timeline, guess it's not canon huh.
Dude, the website doesn't even advertise Dark Wing, it's not canon. Only works by Kurumada, Okada, Teshirogi and Kuori are canon. Dark Wing is it's own continuity and cannot be used to cross scale to the cosmology of the official mangaverse.It's been years that the Museum section in the official site is not updated, and as I said the timeline is one of the examples of this Wiki to define what is canon, and in this timeline they didn't name Gigantomachy and those stories as part of the franchise, even when they were published in 1988 and 2002.
Dark Wing appears in the news section and is published by Akita Shote, the publisher that has the publishing rights to the franchise.Dude, the website doesn't even advertise Dark Wing, it's not canon. Only works by Kurumada, Okada, Teshirogi and Kuori are canon. Dark Wing is it's own continuity and cannot be used to cross scale to the cosmology of the official mangaverse.
Dark Wing is NOT a timeline or universe apart of the canon mangaverse.
Dragon Ball and Bleach have the same publisher, guess they're canon to one another.Dark Wing appears in the news section and is published by Akita Shote, the publisher that has the publishing rights to the franchise.
Dragon Ball and Bleach are not part of the same franchise.Dragon Ball and Bleach have the same publisher, guess they're canon to one another.
requiem is a sequel to an already established canon entry in the mangaverse......Well, Requien is not official, who knew.
Requiem does not appear in the timeline.requiem is a sequel to an already established canon entry in the mangaverse......
Can't believe that had to be explained smh
When I have time I will do it, along with other CRT that I am planning for the verse.You gonna hurry up and make that Cronus CRT?
dang, looks like there's 3 of us planning massive overhauls, all likely very different.When I have time I will do it, along with other CRT that I am planning for the verse.
That's the beauty of Saint Seiya, all the authors are vague enough to allow for everyone to be happyit seem very interesting