RWBY Vol 9 General Discussion Thread: Multiverse Of Therapy

[Jinx666]

No one is arguing that they do

Ozpin and Cinder literally traded blows on equal footing, that is a very valid reason for scaling.

Using everyone to downscale to Maiden Cinder

Maiden Cinder is being assumed to have broke Ozpin's forcefield (Literally if she did, she was clearly using an insane intensity of the power that she wasn't using on any of the main cast). any power that could have broke that forcefield would have just Oneshot Weiss and such. Not like we even see Cinder land a hit on Ozpin who was dominating the fight, but still died somehow

Ergo we are scaling the impenetrable magic forcefield that literally held even against the Long Memory, that one shot Monstra, to everyone else when its almost majorly clear any character from the main cast would have been vaporised. (And b4 you try and bring up Neo there was a whole unphased half of Monstra, and theres no way she would have lowdiffed that blast)

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Using everyone to downscale to Maiden Cinder

Yes, keyword, DOWNSCALE.

Maiden Cinder is being assumed to have broke Ozpin's forcefield (Literally if she did, she was clearly using an insane intensity of the power that she wasn't using on any of the main cast).

And then she went through a training arc with Salem and got stronger.

any power that could have broke that forcefield would have just Oneshot Weiss and such. Not like we even see Cinder land a hit on Ozpin who was dominating the fight, but still died somehow

And yet it didnt, because the cast downscales from the Maidens at this point in the series

Ergo we are scaling the impenetrable magic forcefield that literally held even against the Long Memory, that one shot Monstra, to everyone else when its almost majorly clear any character from the main cast would have been vaporised. (And b4 you try and bring up Neo there was a whole unphased half of Monstra, and theres no way she would have lowdiffed that blast)

Its not impenetrable, Cinder broke it.

Long Memory is 7-B, specifically 187 megatons. The Shield is 3 megatons. It is significantly weaker than Long Memory.

 

[Jinx666]

Yes, keyword, DOWNSCALE.

Meh by how much do we downscale though and what AP?

And then she went through a training arc with Salem and got stronger.

More control of her power. The Maiden powers are pretty set magic, Cinder just learnt how to control it better

And yet it didnt, because the cast downscales from the Maidens at this point in the series

Literally by how much though?

Its not impenetrable, Cinder broke it.

You assume she broke it physically cause it sounds better*

If it didnt show then it isnt certain.

Long Memory is 7-B, specifically 187 megatons. The Shield is 3 megatons. It is significantly weaker than Long Memory.

Yet the Shield held up and protected Oscar yh okay

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Meh by how much do we downscale though and what AP?

Literally by how much though?

The main cast is downscaled to 1 megaton while the Maidens are 3

You assume she broke it physically cause it sounds better*

If it didnt show then it isnt certain.

Nope. Its assumed she broke it because the scenes and timframes line up perfectly to her breaking it and killing him when he leapt at her, ergo that is the most logical conclusion.

Yet the Shield held up and protected Oscar yh okay

Yes, because he wasnt at the epicenter of the explosion, so inverse square law applies, knocking the yield that the shield took down to 3 megatons

 

[Jinx666]

The main cast is downscaled to 1 megaton while the Maidens are 3

Nope. Its assumed she broke it because the scenes and timframes line up perfectly to her breaking it and killing him when he leapt at her, ergo that is the most logical conclusion.

Still will always be an unproved assumption, because you think timeframes being accurate and not considering the long ass elevator ride in the middle.

It just benefits the Verse' tiering clearly.

Yes, because he wasnt at the epicenter of the explosion, so inverse square law applies, knocking the yield that the shield took down to 3 megatons

Th do you mean he wasn't at the epicenter

bro was LITERALLY the closest one to the explosion. It came out of the tip of his cane, and he wasnt exactly standing far from Hazel/Salem???

Are we actually denying this?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Th do you mean he wasn't at the epicenter

bro was LITERALLY the closest one to the explosion. It came out of the tip of his cane, and he wasnt exactly standing far from Hazel/Salem???

Are we actually denying this?

We are yes, i argued the same thing when the upgrade thread happened and it was denied as he was 10 meters away from the epicenter, hence the inverse square law calc i had to do for oscar's shield

 

[Jinx666]

We are yes, i argued the same thing when the upgrade thread happened and it was denied as he was 10 meters away from the epicenter, hence the inverse square law calc i had to do for oscar's shield

Im suuuuure you did Weekly.

How exactly is '10 meters' away significantly fromthe epicentre of that huge, Mostro sized explosion, enough to completely deny the power it took would be comparable?
How are you so sure the epicentre was exactly on Salem/Hazel? It looked like an AoE from the tip of Ozpin's cane to me.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Im suuuuure you did Weekly.

How exactly is '10 meters' away significantly fromthe epicentre of that huge, Mostro sized explosion, enough to completely deny the power it took would be comparable?
How are you so sure the epicentre was exactly on Salem/Hazel? It looked like an AoE from the tip of Ozpin's cane to me.

Apparently anything less than being at the exact epicenter requires an inverse square calc, even as little as 1 meter away

 

[Jinx666]

Apparently anything less than being at the exact epicenter requires an inverse square calc, even as little as 1 meter away

And you couldnt find that out? Cause theres no way we're actively denying Ozpin's shield tanked that explosion when the epicenter was the tip of the cane lmfao

Like this hype for RWBY has gone so far that you're actually NERFING this stuff.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

And you couldnt find that out? Cause theres no way we're actively denying Ozpin's shield tanked that explosion when the epicenter was the tip of the cane lmfao

Find what out? Multiple calc members told me this

 

[Jinx666]

Find what out? Multiple calc members told me this

Calc this inverse square thing then lol

Why arent you trying to find a better value for Ozpins shield what?

 

[Popted2]

Jinx you are a good guy so don't get me wrong if i'm saying this, but you are starting to becoming annoying at this point

if those calcs or scalings or whatever were considered wrong, staff people like Medeus or Maverick or Dalesean would have made it clear and not accepting the things in the first place, we know that sometimes Weekly can get wrong, so if they accepted it, it means that he actually got it right

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Calc this inverse square thing then lol

Why arent you trying to find a better value for Ozpins shield what?

I did

RWBY: Oscar's Shield

vsbattles.fandom.com

This is the accepted value for Oscar's shield

 

[Jinx666]

So what are we just ignoring the epicentre was the tip of the cane then?

Salem's body isnt even durable lol, Yang could blow her up

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So what are we just ignoring the epicentre was the tip of the cane then?

Salem's body isnt even durable lol, Yang could blow her up

The epicenter was Salem and Hazel

 

[Jinx666]

The epicenter was Salem and Hazel

Theres literally no beam or anything of this. Just an extremely unclear effect thats eminating from the tip of the cane.

 

[Cire]

Shouldn’t the epicenter be the tip of the cane then? Since that is where the explosion came?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Shouldn’t the epicenter be the tip of the cane then? Since that is where the explosion came?

The explosion was centered on salem and hazel, that is the epicenter

 

[Cire]

Looking at it again, it looks like the beam hits the two guys before spreading out everywhere.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Looking at it again, it looks like the beam hits the two guys before spreading out everywhere.

Yes, hence why theyre at the epicenter

 

[SilentLyfe]

I remember when first watching the episode there being a concept art of Monstra with a green energy beam coming out of it in the credits. But I couldn’t find it now.

 

[Cire]

Shame we haven’t gotten any big AP buffs lately.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Shame we haven’t gotten any big AP buffs lately.

The verse's AP is fine where is it, dont try to force upgrades

 

[Cire]

When the JL movie comes out, how do we want to handle it?

 

[SilentLyfe]

I remember when first watching the episode there being a concept art of Monstra with a green energy beam coming out of it in the credits. But I couldn’t find it now.

Found it on the RT website.

 

[Jinx666]

By not even attempting to scale any RWBY characters to Superman

But yeah the blast wasn't this pointed beam that made Salem/Hazel the epicenter, and more just energy released from Ozpins cane that he shielded from, and Salem was held into . If anything, Salem/Hazel were the furthest away and the shield took to full force of the attack lol.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

When the JL movie comes out, how do we want to handle it?

I mean, its seeming like the JL arent going to be as strong as they normally are, but it all depends on how its treated canon-wise

 

[Cire]

I mean, its seeming like the JL arent going to be as strong as they normally are, but it all depends on how its treated canon-wise

Spoiler

they say like it’s team RWBY from V8 to V9. And, from test footage I saw, the legit JL is going to be there. As in the actual Superman and stuff.

 

[Jinx666]

If its RWBY from V8/V9 then they're still kinda put in their past bodies, which would seemingly nerf them.

It wouldn't be canon though surely

 

[Cire]

If its RWBY from V8/V9 then they're still kinda put in their past bodies, which would seemingly nerf them.

It wouldn't be canon though surely

I put spoilers there for a reason.

 

[Jinx666]

Meh yeah but its not confirmed yet, Dont see why its a major spoiler

They shoulda just made it V1-3 so we can see Pyrrha again

 

[WeeklyBattles]

If its RWBY from V8/V9 then they're still kinda put in their past bodies, which would seemingly nerf them.

It wouldn't be canon though surely

Theyre not being put in their old bodies, theyre being sent back in time

Meh yeah but its not confirmed yet, Dont see why its a major spoiler

They shoulda just made it V1-3 so we can see Pyrrha again

Apparently Pyrrha will be in the movie

 

[Jinx666]

She better be fr, Still the best written impactful character

 

[Popted2]

well to be honest this seems more like non-canon stuff so i don't think anything will change

 

[Jinx666]

Can i ask why Ruby gets Heat Manipulation from her semblance, for a feat she performed in the non-canon Justice League comics?

Also shouldnt Ruby just have Matter Manipulation with no Elemental Intangibility? Her Semblance only breaks down her matter and allows it to split up her petals, but this is done instinctively and not naturally when her matter collides with a solid object (Since shes been hit, even in the latest volume, out of her Petal form).

From what i can see shes never been able to been able to pass through small gaps, go through permeable things etc with her semblance (A lot of antifeats too like how she can be handcuffed and hit physically), so it just seems like Matter Manipulation only

Where does it say she becomes invulnerable in her petal form too after Harriet's training? Cause the latest volume proves otherwise, and she still didn't know what her semblance specifically did post V7.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Can i ask why Ruby gets Heat Manipulation from her semblance, for a feat she performed in the non-canon Justice League comics?

Also shouldnt Ruby just have Matter Manipulation with no Elemental Intangibility? Her Semblance only breaks down her matter and allows it to split up her petals, but this is done instinctively and not naturally when her matter collides with a solid object (Since shes been hit, even in the latest volume, out of her Petal form).

From what i can see shes never been able to been able to pass through small gaps, go through permeable things etc with her semblance (A lot of antifeats too like how she can be handcuffed and hit physically), so it just seems like Matter Manipulation only

Where does it say she becomes invulnerable in her petal form too after Harriet's training? Cause the latest volume proves otherwise, and she still didn't know what her semblance specifically did post V7.

The Justice League comic is canon, this was brought up in the previous CRT where it got added

Invulnerability comes from Arrowfell, which is also canon

 

[Jinx666]

The Justice League comic is canon, this was brought up in the previous CRT where it got added

Invulnerability comes from Arrowfell, which is also canon

How is the Justice League comic canon exactly?

Does Arrowfell actually say this is an ability rather than just being a game mechanic...cause shes definitely not invulnerable in this form?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How is the Justice League comic canon exactly?

Because the writers said it is canon? They even gave it an exact spot in the story's timeline

Does Arrowfell actually say this is an ability rather than just being a game mechanic...cause shes definitely not invulnerable in this form?

It does yes

 

[Jinx666]

Bro did they genuinely make their RWBY crossover fanfiction where Weiss gets Batman and Cyborg to kiss her canon???

 

[Jinx666]

Because the writers said it is canon? They even gave it an exact spot in the story's timeline

Are you talking about this?

RWBY writing is an actual pisstake why are they doing this

It does yes

Even though thats been completely disproven from the show, and can therefore be chalked down as a game mechanic?