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RWBY - Semblance upgrades
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So to summarize:
*Yang and Adam, like Deku, Fat Gum, and Ohma, are able to absorb, stockpile, and utilize the energy of attacks they are hit with multiplicatively. As confirmed by both the show and the guidebook, this energy is doubled when they activate their semblances.
*Due to the health bar mechanics of Aura, we are able to accurately determine how much energy they are able to absorb at their maximum from how many hits they are able to take before their Aura breaks. These amps are not inconsistencies as was previously argued, as Yang and Adam consistently stomp everyone they use their semblances on at max power, no one would scale to them physically.
*The only thing that would scale is Aura damage caps which already have durability feats on the level that their multipliers amp their AP to anyways, such as Mercury and Emerald's auras withstanding Tier 7 attacks from Amber, the 7-C cast withstanding blows from a bloodlusted Low 7-B Hazel, Neo withstanding part of Oscar's 7-A Long Memory explosion, and Vine's Aura fully containing the blast of Ironwood's nuke that is 7-A.
Aura would look like this:
Large Building level, Varies from higher up to Small Town level at peak with Aura (Aura functions as a forcefield with a cumulative durability, depicted as a 'health bar', and allows her to take dozens of hits from opponents as strong as herself without any significant injury. Aura's damage cap is 300 times, due to character's aura protecting them from Yang's semblance at max power) | Large Building level+, Varies from higher up to Small Town level at peak with Aura | Town level, Varies from higher up to City level at peak with Aura | Small City Level, Varies from higher up to Mountain level at peak with Aura
Yangs semblance would look like this
Large Building level, Varies from higher up to Small Town level at peak with Burn | Large Building level+, Varies from higher up to Small Town level at peak with Burn | Town level, Varies from higher up to City level at peak with Burn | Small City Level, Varies from higher up to Mountain level at peak with Burn
*Yang and Adam, like Deku, Fat Gum, and Ohma, are able to absorb, stockpile, and utilize the energy of attacks they are hit with multiplicatively. As confirmed by both the show and the guidebook, this energy is doubled when they activate their semblances.
*Due to the health bar mechanics of Aura, we are able to accurately determine how much energy they are able to absorb at their maximum from how many hits they are able to take before their Aura breaks. These amps are not inconsistencies as was previously argued, as Yang and Adam consistently stomp everyone they use their semblances on at max power, no one would scale to them physically.
*The only thing that would scale is Aura damage caps which already have durability feats on the level that their multipliers amp their AP to anyways, such as Mercury and Emerald's auras withstanding Tier 7 attacks from Amber, the 7-C cast withstanding blows from a bloodlusted Low 7-B Hazel, Neo withstanding part of Oscar's 7-A Long Memory explosion, and Vine's Aura fully containing the blast of Ironwood's nuke that is 7-A.
Aura would look like this:
Large Building level, Varies from higher up to Small Town level at peak with Aura (Aura functions as a forcefield with a cumulative durability, depicted as a 'health bar', and allows her to take dozens of hits from opponents as strong as herself without any significant injury. Aura's damage cap is 300 times, due to character's aura protecting them from Yang's semblance at max power) | Large Building level+, Varies from higher up to Small Town level at peak with Aura | Town level, Varies from higher up to City level at peak with Aura | Small City Level, Varies from higher up to Mountain level at peak with Aura
Yangs semblance would look like this
Large Building level, Varies from higher up to Small Town level at peak with Burn | Large Building level+, Varies from higher up to Small Town level at peak with Burn | Town level, Varies from higher up to City level at peak with Burn | Small City Level, Varies from higher up to Mountain level at peak with Burn
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Remind me, the stat jump comes from just multiplying the amount of hits by 2?
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How do you know they’re all equally the same type of hits in terms of power? Because that seems like a massive assumption on your end when we have Mercury throwing a lot of hits onto Yang in volume 3 just so her semblance can kick in while he’s holding back the entire fight.
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…I’m sorry but is the assumption with this CRT that Aura can withstand hundreds of attacks from people comparable to you before going down? Something contradicted by literally every single fight in the entire verse? Why did Coco and Yatsuhashi go down in less than 2 dozen hits each then? Why did Weiss go down so easily vs Flynt and Vernal? Why does literally anyone’s aura go down ever at any time if they can hit themselves hundreds of times and not have it go down?
What about Neo one shotting Yang? But then not one shotting anyone else despite all of them being weakened? Is Neo not 300x her or was she that nerfed from being kinda tired? What about the Ace Ops not tanking hundreds of hits vs team RWBY? Or vice versa?
Are we adding a new weakness to aura or something that I’m not seeing? Are we assuming that 300x is linear to EVERYONE including peeps like Weiss who demonstrably have worse aura stores than others like Jaune?
Hell, against Mercury, his Aura didn’t even GO DOWN until he was punched several times by Yang with Burn, wouldn’t that mean she was spreading out the damage and not release it all in a single attack? Shouldn’t scaling to the 300x value only apply to anyone that survives Post-V3 Yang with Burn, who is basically no one unless we think Adam has so much god damn aura that he can tank a 300x attack and not have his head taken off like he did Yang’s arm when he had even less aura then she did?
Also, I sure hope this isn’t some vain attempt to say “X one shot Y’s aura so they can now be this value.”
What about Neo one shotting Yang? But then not one shotting anyone else despite all of them being weakened? Is Neo not 300x her or was she that nerfed from being kinda tired? What about the Ace Ops not tanking hundreds of hits vs team RWBY? Or vice versa?
Are we adding a new weakness to aura or something that I’m not seeing? Are we assuming that 300x is linear to EVERYONE including peeps like Weiss who demonstrably have worse aura stores than others like Jaune?
Hell, against Mercury, his Aura didn’t even GO DOWN until he was punched several times by Yang with Burn, wouldn’t that mean she was spreading out the damage and not release it all in a single attack? Shouldn’t scaling to the 300x value only apply to anyone that survives Post-V3 Yang with Burn, who is basically no one unless we think Adam has so much god damn aura that he can tank a 300x attack and not have his head taken off like he did Yang’s arm when he had even less aura then she did?
Also, I sure hope this isn’t some vain attempt to say “X one shot Y’s aura so they can now be this value.”
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@Kingofwolves999 Given the argument is pushing for a massive tier jump with Aura, that's what it sounds like, which can open a whole can of worms for inconsistencies
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Also someone remove the circular scaling on the profiles for Qrow/Hazel/Tyrian and just have them scale to god damn Clover, that is so clunky.
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Mercury is holding back throughout the entire tournament, and if anything shouldn’t even have a High 8-C key since he’s massively stronger than that in reality.
Adam has abnormally high, absolutely insane amounts of Aura that lets him tank punishment from people for an extended period of time unlike any other character in the entire verse has ever shown.
Yang is the strongest member of team RWBY physically and has a fighting style revolved around absorbing attacks, meaning her Aura is literally designed to be stronger than everyone else’s.
These characters absolutely do not create the “norm” for someone like Ruby or Ren. Adam “I tank 30+ hits and almost win two back to back 1v1’s and then a 2v1 with no help or reprieve” Taurus is not setting the bar for Weiss “took down in 5 hits” Schnee.
Hell, IN ADAM’S FIGHT WITH BLAKE, he manages to easily break her Aura coated weapon with his semblance. Why are we trying to apply this principle of a multiplier to everyone in the first place?
At BEST this should just further enforce Mercury’s 7-C rating and make Adam/Yang have better Aura feats than the others. And even THAT is shaky grounds if we start factoring in one shots.
I have no issues with the Nora stuff.
Adam has abnormally high, absolutely insane amounts of Aura that lets him tank punishment from people for an extended period of time unlike any other character in the entire verse has ever shown.
Yang is the strongest member of team RWBY physically and has a fighting style revolved around absorbing attacks, meaning her Aura is literally designed to be stronger than everyone else’s.
These characters absolutely do not create the “norm” for someone like Ruby or Ren. Adam “I tank 30+ hits and almost win two back to back 1v1’s and then a 2v1 with no help or reprieve” Taurus is not setting the bar for Weiss “took down in 5 hits” Schnee.
Hell, IN ADAM’S FIGHT WITH BLAKE, he manages to easily break her Aura coated weapon with his semblance. Why are we trying to apply this principle of a multiplier to everyone in the first place?
At BEST this should just further enforce Mercury’s 7-C rating and make Adam/Yang have better Aura feats than the others. And even THAT is shaky grounds if we start factoring in one shots.
I have no issues with the Nora stuff.
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Because that's the default assumption we make for every character on this website? We assume that by default for any character and any verse, if we didnt then the way we scale characters as a whole would completely fall apart. If you want we can assume mercury's 4 ton feat is what hes hitting with but that would increase the value.
What are you talking about? There are no inconsistencies here, no one scales to Aura.
Up to that level with higher aura reserve characters like yang yes. It's not exactly contradicted as characters canonically have varying amounts of Aura. Yatsu and Coco went down because Merc and Emerald werent holding back against them (they should technically be 7-C in that fight but their profiles are outdated at the moment), weiss went down due to a mix of her semblance spamming being extremely aura draining and her face tanking flynt'a weapon multiple times including his 4x amp with his semblance.
Neo is that much stronger than Yang yes, as well as it being a thing that you can knock someone out through their Aura without their Aura breaking, which is what Neo did.
No, we are not assuming that everyone is that high.
Not necessarily, Mercury is significantly more durable than Yang even when he was pulling his punches, his Aura has withstood Low 7-B attacks before. And I think you're misunderstanding, no one scales to Burn physically, it's not being argued here that anyone does.
And no it is not, that isnt even how Aura works to begin with so that argument wouldnt even work.
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Eh, Hazel exists but still you're on the right track
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No one was arguing that this is the norm. This isnt even a crt for aura durability.
Eeeeeeeh, that's kinda iffy in the context that Adam's semblance coupled with his weapon canonically let's him cut people through their aura, he did so in the fight against Yang a few minutes after that as well and she only blocked it because of her prosthetic arm.
That's what is being argued yes, though we're not discussing oneshots, only their amp
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Excuse me? The entire point of the multiplication is to increase everyone’s Aura durability, you have made that very clear.
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That's just a example. I didn’t put it in the op for a reason
Also this is to upgrade their semblances, the Aura thing was just a point to support it by showing their auras can survive attacks way stronger then themselves, hence why i said this thread will lead into that Aura crt
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Oh, so should I keep going with how inconsistent it is that anyones Aura can endure 10+ attacks comparable to their own AP, let alone hundreds?
Leo at Haven? Ren and Nora vs the Nuckelavee? Yang vs that Ursa that was comparable to her? Ghira? Sun vs Ilia? Scarlet losing all of his Aura cause he got hit in the nuts? Blake losing her aura despite Adam only hitting her normally? Again, THE ACE OPS??
“Neo is that much stronger than Yang, yes”
So why didn’t Neo one shot Ruby who is weaker than Yang? What logic is that? Is Ruby suddenly massively stronger than Yang in both AP and Aura capacity? Can RUBY now tank 300x her durability attacks? Is this supposed to scale to everyone in the Ever After? Is that where this line of logic is heading? Couldn’t Yang survive hits from a being literally stronger than Neo without getting one shot???
Is Oscar stronger than Yang? Is literally everyone on the squad stronger than Yang and she just got hand waved as our scaled and weak to the point anyone equal to Neo can one shot her, despite the very next Volume showing that to be incorrect?
So who ARE you assuming is that high? Cause it surely isn’t anyone I’ve mentioned so far other than Adam and Yang.
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Weiss took 7 actual attacks and was at 40% aura. Three from base Flynt, another from his 4x attack.
Accounting for her literally only using like 9 Glyphs, when we KNOW she can spam dozens of them, and she basically had her Aura cut in half by just getting hit the equivalent of 7 times. That is absolutely a case of her Aura being disgustingly weaker than others, meaning no one’s aura should scale to anyone else’s aura, unless there’s something I missed.
Accounting for her literally only using like 9 Glyphs, when we KNOW she can spam dozens of them, and she basically had her Aura cut in half by just getting hit the equivalent of 7 times. That is absolutely a case of her Aura being disgustingly weaker than others, meaning no one’s aura should scale to anyone else’s aura, unless there’s something I missed.
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You’ll need scans to proof the inconsistencies and pull-out that outlier drivel. Few solid evidence is enough to prove a scaling.
Let’s stay on-topic here.
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Can you point out all possible inconsistencies that may appear? Would help your stance to be more clear.
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@GarrixianXD the fact that a bomb threatening to destroy mantle results in a massive evacuation to save everyone there, which includes a bunch of Hunters and Huntresses who’d supposedly scale close to that level if we’re supposed to take this seriously. Or that the whole “Aura can take 300 hits before draining” isn’t lined up with characters like Oscar, who’s upscales from team RWBY gets his aura shattered by a Grimm in a few hits. Or how in Volume 6 the main cast gets their aura shattered in one hit or through the edge of a bigger blast. Which is egregious on Jaune’s end when he’s stated to have a lot of Aura by Pyrrha, so the whole “aura is a constant that everyone has on the same level and can take the same amount of hits before shattering” doesn’t line up given what’s shown and stated.
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It was a one-off comment about the state of the profiles that was smothered in actual on-topic posts but sure.
Basically everything I’ve pointed out about how every fight in the series results in characters having their Aura broken by less than 20 hits, but this upgrade is attempting to scale characters to several hundreds of hits.
Not to mention the characters in question are absolutely outliers to the vast majority of characters, as they have notably higher Aura quantities, with the one instance of “300x aura” is Mercury who is actually a 7-C character that was holding back heavily. Not to mention, the precedence this is setting is basically:
“Anyone that can one shot a character through their Aura should be 300x stronger than that character” followed by “Neo one shot Yang” resulting in horrendous scaling inconsistencies such as everyone Yang is supposedly comparable to… actually being 300x stronger than her… which makes other characters 300x stronger which makes Yang 300x stronger which creates ridiculous circular scaling unless you ignore it.
Or worse: someone is 300x someone else’s, but then they hit someone else and DON’T break their Aura, so that persons Aura must be 300x the 300x of the other person.
You can see how this will easily get out of hand, I assume, when these same characters get vaporized and terrorized by a 7-B bomb.
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That bomb was fully contained by the aura.
It’s being argued that aura significantly varies between characters, not being constant around everyone.
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By someone’s specific aura who’s semblance is not the same between folks, and again numerous hunters and huntresses with Aura had to evacuate from the city to avoid being killed, so the aura massively upscaling from AP is inconsistent as hell.
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Leo at Haven? Ren and Nora vs the Nuckelavee? Yang vs that Ursa that was comparable to her? Ghira? Sun vs Ilia? Scarlet losing all of his Aura cause he got hit in the nuts? Blake losing her aura despite Adam only hitting her normally? Again, THE ACE OPS??
I mean, sure? Like I said, Aura isnt a blanket durability, it varies from person to person.
In which fight? If you're talking about the one on the airship she was screwing around with her the entire time, it's how ru y managed to catch her off guard by activating her umbrella to blow her off the ship. Ruby's Aura being able to take those kinds of hits is consistent though.
No? Where are you getting this idea from?
In terms of Aura only Hazel, Jaune, and Vine, other than that no one at the moment.
No? She made over a dozen glyphs in that fight (the gravity glyphs she used to anchor herself to the ground, the ring of glyphs she made around flynt, etc.) As well as all the Dust projectiles she used on top of tanking Flynts attacks. All of that drains Aura.
But yes, like I said, Weiss's aura doesnt scale to yangs, but this thread is not about aura durability
Starts with her and yang taking Flynt's trumpet blast for a solid 6 seconds, Weiss creating a glyph to anchor herself. Weiss makes another glyph to launch herself, then another to anchor herself again as she takes flynts attack for another 4 seconds. She makes another glyph to try to walk forward, stumbles and gets kicked by flynt through a dust column. Skipping ahead, weiss makes four glyphs to shoot four Ice Dust projectiles. She then uses Wind Dust to hold off his attack and creates seven glyphs, which she then jumps between and creates new ones of every time she does, creating 8 more glyphs in the process as well as launching ice dust projectiles from each one she jumps off of. She then gets hit by Flynt's 4x amped attack.
So using j/s and assuming flynt is the same AP as weiss, 3.41 tons, we get 10 hits via the normal trumpet, 1 kick, and a hit from the 4x amp equal to four, so 15 hits or 51.15 tons, as well as her draining her own aura to make 23 glyphs, a blast of wind strong enough to match flynt's trumpet, and over a dozen ice dust projectiles.
All of this and she still had 40% of her aura left.
But again, this is massively derailing the current subject, we are not discussing general aura, can we please get back on track?
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Actually the bomb was made to one shot a 7-A whale and Ironwood even thought Oscar's ke nuke was the bomb and we list that blast as at least 7-A due to one shot killing the whale
That whale is stronger then baseline Mountain level
- Monstra's Attack Potency - 186.37 Megatons of TNT (Mountain level)
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us not seeing the actual damage of the bomb doesn't really matter when Ironwood said he was going to use that one bomb to blow it all up anyways.
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Are you being intentionally dishonest right now? You know very well I’m talking about the fight WHEN NEO ONE SHOT YANG. At Atlas, when Neo one shot Yang and shoved her into the Ever After? Remember that? When Ruby then fought Neo? When she even continued fighting Neo while they were falling? How she didn’t get one shot by Neo? Yet Neo can one shot Yang? Ring any bells or nah?
Oh and here we go. The exact person I was looking for: Hazel.
Hazel who got stabbed through his Aura by Weiss’s amped Queen Lancer. Recently, you’ve been pushing for a CRT to have Jaune also be able to amp anyone to the levels of that Queen Lancer with his semblance.
You’re pushing for Jaune to have a 300x amp with his semblance, scaling from Yang, because Hazel should have more Aura than her. I’m assuming this is a plan for the Curious Cat near one shotting an older Jaune as well? Just create a fun multiplicative upscaling chain of one of the most inconsistent parts of RWBY, hmm?
“10 hits via the normal trumpet”
I’m sorry, but how in the living hell is existing in his trumpets sound attack equivalent to taking an attack over and over? When was that ever established? Why are you counting it by seconds? What basis are you using for ever claiming that Flynt’s trumpet deals Damage over time and not with an initial hit? How does his trumpet deal damage again in relation to his actual hits and then translate to constant damage?
So she made almost 2 dozen glyphs (small ones that are pitiful compared to the massive or more complex glyphs that she’s done in prior fights like time dilation, shields, platforms, forced movement/velocity, etc.) and took (by your account) 10 total hits and that’s enough to chunk her Aura over half. Is the logic that using glyphs = dozens of punches? Is that how taxing her semblance is that is just drains half her aura? Is the new belief that using your semblance dampens your aura so heavily that a supposedly dozens of times stronger shield gets chipped down to basically nothing in less than 2 minutes.
Sure, I’ll drop it. But let’s cut to this: the 300x difference doesn’t even exist.
Yang was left on basically no aura by a holding back Mercury. So let’s assume your belief that EVERY SINGLE SHOT from his boots has the same AP, and Yang can take 150+ hits and still have some (her semblance does NOT decrease her aura in this instance for some reason, btw).
She then proceeds to, in volume 6, by your own count, take 35 hits, take down an already seriously hurt Adam with the equivalent of 70 hits, then her Aura goes out.
So what happened here? Yang is equal to Adam, and Mercury was fighting at an equal level to her as well while holding back. Did her Aura get weaker all of a sudden? How does she go from tanking over 150 hits equal to her AP… to losing her aura after the equivalent of 35 hits in a stronger key?
The first one has her not lose any aura even after her semblance is used… but the second one does.
This isn’t even bringing up in Yang’s volume 5 character short where she fights an Ursa… and her Aura goes down in 5 hits counting blocks. FAR less than 150 OR 35 hits. So before you even say which one is inconsistent, we’ve got three heavily conflicting feats here.
But wait, there’s more. In Yang Vs Neon, she gets dropped to 65% Aura after around 15+ hits. We then cut away from them (during which time we don’t see anything of how many times Neon hits her), and she’s dropped all the way down to 35%. Did Neon sneak in 100 god damn hits in the 15 seconds she and Yang were off screen??? At best, even if you double the hits she did to Yang, we get around 30-40 hits before Yang has a third of her Aura left.
So we got 5, 30-40, 150 and 35. In order.
This is not a “varies” scenario going on right now, either one is correct or one is not.
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A 7-A whale with gravity dust helping it, not exactly something I’d use atm since that’s somewhat contentious.
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Tl;dr
300x amp is inconsistent because her aura being able to take 150+ hits from someone the same strength as her is inconsistent from every other time her aura has been near to breaking or outright broken from someone that is the same strength as her. Vs an Ursa it took only 5 including blocks. Vs Neon it took 30-40. Vs Adam it took 35. Combine that with the inconsistency of her Semblance either working when she doesn’t have any Aura or not draining her aura (despite it doing so later on), and I feel we have an obvious choice here.
The actual consequences of this crt is that it will create a scaling chain using Yang’s aura, haphazardly scaling it to anyone that has “high aura,” which creates another scaling chain from Jaune or Hazel that has characters equal to Yang’s max Burn potential, creating massive inconsistencies.
Vine has no place on this CRT whatsoever other than to try and claim he has high aura cause he contained a bomb that killed him. It is an attempt to explain away an inconsistency so that he has a better rating. Despite his Aura never being shown to be different from anyone else’s. Bro used his semblance at a level FAR HIGHER than what he ever displayed before, but we try to attribute his base durability with Aura to it? Nah.
If what I’m saying is not the case, then I would love some logic on what exactly we’re doing here. Cause as it stands, going by this logic, the Atlas Colossus is gonna be scaling to one shotting Jaune and Nora with his semblance active, but then also be getting hurt by the squad and even pushed back by Ruby, making the squad both equal to and immensely weaker than it.
300x amp is inconsistent because her aura being able to take 150+ hits from someone the same strength as her is inconsistent from every other time her aura has been near to breaking or outright broken from someone that is the same strength as her. Vs an Ursa it took only 5 including blocks. Vs Neon it took 30-40. Vs Adam it took 35. Combine that with the inconsistency of her Semblance either working when she doesn’t have any Aura or not draining her aura (despite it doing so later on), and I feel we have an obvious choice here.
The actual consequences of this crt is that it will create a scaling chain using Yang’s aura, haphazardly scaling it to anyone that has “high aura,” which creates another scaling chain from Jaune or Hazel that has characters equal to Yang’s max Burn potential, creating massive inconsistencies.
Vine has no place on this CRT whatsoever other than to try and claim he has high aura cause he contained a bomb that killed him. It is an attempt to explain away an inconsistency so that he has a better rating. Despite his Aura never being shown to be different from anyone else’s. Bro used his semblance at a level FAR HIGHER than what he ever displayed before, but we try to attribute his base durability with Aura to it? Nah.
If what I’m saying is not the case, then I would love some logic on what exactly we’re doing here. Cause as it stands, going by this logic, the Atlas Colossus is gonna be scaling to one shotting Jaune and Nora with his semblance active, but then also be getting hurt by the squad and even pushed back by Ruby, making the squad both equal to and immensely weaker than it.
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If you want to explain Vine containing the bomb but dying just make his durability “up to 7-A with Aura Vines” and note that his own aura doesn’t scale in his weaknesses or something.
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Ah, apologies, i thought you were talking about the train fight. Minor correction though, this was the cast after had fought on and off for two days with minimal rest, and specifically this was after they got their asses handed to them by salem as well as fighting Cinder prior, the fact that Yang was able to activate her semblance at all is proof that she was damaged, Neo just broke her aura the rest of the way, she didnt oneshot Yang's aura.
That is not what is being pushed for no. You are confusing durability with damage capacity, having more aura does not make the aura more durable, it just means it can absorb more damage over the course of a fight. Take the Adam vs Yang rematch, Adam's stronger semblance attack was able to cut through Yang's aura in that fight, because it is an attack amplified several times over as well as a bladed weapon, Weiss was able to do the same to Hazel because of the Queen Lancer's piercing stinger on top of being amped by Jaune.
Thats...actually a fair point...looking into it further Mercury is also able to control how much damage his shots do, varying from being explosive shells to just being harmless smoke bombs. And Yang being at 16% would be consistent with her being hit 23 times as being hit 35 left her a hair away from breaking.
What do you mean? Yang's Aura didnt break, it just flickered (flickering indicating the Aura user has taken a strong hit), and her Aura didnt break afterwards either. So we have 30-40, 23, and 35, fairly consistent.
Again, Ursa didnt break her Aura, and her semblance has never worked when she didnt have Aura. If you have an instance that shows otherwise please show it.
No, it does not. I do understnd know where you are getting this idea from.
Yes, thats why people keep telling you guys to drop it, because Vine has no relevance to this CRT.
This CRT is solely discussing Yang, Adam, and Nora's AP amps with their semblances, nothing else.
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Agree with @Theglassman12 and Kingofwolves’ points.
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Yang and Adam's semblances do varies in power depending on how much damage they absorb, store and send back twice as hard
Now we just need to find the limit for Yangs, luckily in the OP I have counted the most recent time Yang used her semblance at max power for one hit before her aura broke due to using her semblance (semblances drain aura) and that was 70 hits absorbed thanks to the absorbed hits she took from Adam's semblance being send back at her twice as hard
So that's 140, we'll deal with giving the low tier, middle tier and high tier of Aura levels all different varies ratings when we get to that in a different CRT. For now the "higher" rating for aura should cover any problems for this. For now
I'll bring this up here before anyone else: Adam's aura getting one shot by Yangs semblance and protect him makes sense given he is stronger then Yang as staited by Yang herself, it literally took two people to take him down and even then it was down to the wire. So his aura being two times or more above Yang's actually makes sense.
So far that's the most recent time she used her semblance at max power, back in Beacon the amount of damage she could absorb honestly could be lower due to training that increased her amount of Aura via getting stronger
Now we just need to find the limit for Yangs, luckily in the OP I have counted the most recent time Yang used her semblance at max power for one hit before her aura broke due to using her semblance (semblances drain aura) and that was 70 hits absorbed thanks to the absorbed hits she took from Adam's semblance being send back at her twice as hard
So that's 140, we'll deal with giving the low tier, middle tier and high tier of Aura levels all different varies ratings when we get to that in a different CRT. For now the "higher" rating for aura should cover any problems for this. For now
I'll bring this up here before anyone else: Adam's aura getting one shot by Yangs semblance and protect him makes sense given he is stronger then Yang as staited by Yang herself, it literally took two people to take him down and even then it was down to the wire. So his aura being two times or more above Yang's actually makes sense.
So far that's the most recent time she used her semblance at max power, back in Beacon the amount of damage she could absorb honestly could be lower due to training that increased her amount of Aura via getting stronger
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Just saying that it has nothing to do with the CRT when the main basis of this CRT is buffing everyone's aura to higher tiers because of what Yang and Adam can do is pretty dishonest of you, also you've already gotten 3 staff members to disagree with the premise, so you're better off bringing something new to the table or this CRT can be considered done with the rejection.
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I mean this is for upgrading their semblances by giving them a varies rating they should have, the points about aura are just there to support it as aura acts like a health bar letting them survive multiple attacks
We just need to find a good maximum multiplier for their semblances's
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You guys are doing all this talk about a point I made to support this, when that isn't even the main point
The main point is that Yang and Adam's semblances NEED a varies rating as they can absorb, store and send back that stored energy twice as hard just like Deku, Fat Gum who have/will have their profiles list how strong their absorbed energy is is max power
The main point is that Yang and Adam's semblances NEED a varies rating as they can absorb, store and send back that stored energy twice as hard just like Deku, Fat Gum who have/will have their profiles list how strong their absorbed energy is is max power
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The point to ask is do you or do you not agree that Yang and Adam's semblances should have a veries rating depending on how much energy they absorbed and stored and send back twice as hard?
Might as well make a new CRT where we can actually talk about what the hell should be the maximum multiplier later, because this is literally just for giving their semblances a varies rating basied on how it works, I literally went off topic bring up aura because I was just using that as sporting evidence
Might as well make a new CRT where we can actually talk about what the hell should be the maximum multiplier later, because this is literally just for giving their semblances a varies rating basied on how it works, I literally went off topic bring up aura because I was just using that as sporting evidence
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I asked you a couple comments before, and you still did not point out the inconsistencies.
Isn't the entire concept of CRT centered around establishing a definite upper limit to the amount she can amplify herself? This limit is consistently supported both by the show and the guidebook. Therefore, the multiplier 2 cannot be extended beyond what has already been demonstrated, as the exact amount of energy she can absorb before surpassing this limit has been shown on-screen.
I don't quite grasp the basis on which you are dismissing canonical information, except for citing "inconsistencies." However, you haven't yet elaborated on these inconsistencies.
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