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So you are prescribing the durability of the mountain whale to the inside of it as well?
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RWBY - Semblance upgrades
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Basically, I mean Oscar's KE nuke is listed as up to "at least Mountain level, likely higher with The Long Memory (The Long Memory's power is proportional to the amount of kinetic energy that Ozpin has stored within it over his numerous lives. The dwindling remains of energy stored in The Long Memory was able to annihilate Monstra, as well as disperse the surrounding Tempest storm)"
Just because it annihilated the whale just like the bomb was supposed to do, hell Ironwood even thought that ke nuke was actually the bomb
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To be fair, the bomb was just made that day. He doesn’t really know what it looks like. But I still agree with the overall point. The insides of Monstra would still have to be as durable as the mountain calc because it survives moving.
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Anyways basically because of this it fixes the whole Vine dying to the bomb yet his aura actually contained the blast long enough to do no damage to anything, because the bomb was stronger then his aura's max durability of 300 Megatons but it also explains how his aura contained it before getting killed by it
Because that bomb would've absolutely oneshot stomped killed that whale like Oscar's KE blast is listed as "at least mountain level"
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I always thought it was because he transformed his personal aura to his semblance to contain it, lowering his own shields. If he had put all of his aura into his personal shields, he would have lived.
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Yeah. So basically, this makes RWBY mountain now?
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I see I see. This actually makes sense tbh. RWBY characters can already contend with and take blows from maiden tier characters without aura. Them being more durable with aura makes sense. Though; I will also say that aura directly translates to AP too, as it empowers the users weapons and such
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Yes it covers their weapons but also empowers them. This is from the wiki.
- Offense: Demonstrated by Ren in the forest, as he sends a shockwave of force propelling a fang through the snake's head, causing it to explode. Fox Alistair demonstrated a similar ability during the fight in "Breach", where a shock wave from his fist blew up an Ursa Major. Additionally, Pyrrha has stated that all tools and equipment are conduits for a person's Aura. This is demonstrated twice in "Painting the Town..." and "No Brakes" when Blake Belladonna unleashes crescent-shaped slashes from her Gambol Shroud, increasing its range and strength.
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It still is a viable method of attack tho. And Pyrrha never mentions it being exclusive to Ren as well. She is a trained warrior, so she should also be able to do it as well. And RWBY folks can harm other characters while amped with aura just with their bare bodies. Like how Ruby would able to kick dudes in the air in the first episode yet was portrayed as much weaker in V2 when she broke her aura from a long fall and WF goons come to her.
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But I mean the fact it helps it float and move in general means that it’s not entirely moving on it’s own.
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I mean gravity dust in the show lift heavy stuff up like Amity, and one of the designers for Monstra confirmed that those are gravity dust crystals attached to its back.
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I know but the effor needed to move the body is lessened by the presence of the gravity dust. The best way to do the KE now would be to find the level of impact it had when it touched down.
Also, did the bomb get recalced to include the crater?
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What do you think the crator inclusion would yield?
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Unless channeling the power of Dust is common in RWBY and not something specific to Hazel I doubt it can scale to one’s stats.
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They use dust bullets to shot at folks. Dust is extremely common in combat. Hazel just injects dust himself raw because he can’t feel pain.
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And last time i checked Dust isn’t an energy source the characters use to amp their strength in different ways so unless a bunch of extended canon says otherwise, I doubt it would scale to Monstro
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That’s not what I’m talking about, Dust doesn’t amp their physical strength like more dust injection resulting in their overall strength to increase, and Vice versa.
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I know, and I’m also saying that due to the lack of evidence that Dust can be capable of amping one’s stats like a UES, it would further go against whatever KE feat Monstro have to fully scale to itself since it’s using gravity dust more than it’s own strength.
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He'll coco's semblance is a Dust amp
So why would she have a semblance for it, if this dust amp is real
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There is an argument that just existing and being able to move some parts of his body still scales. And being able to survive landing as well
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I guess he would still have to move himself in the air. Gravity glphy stuff helps people float, but not really fly. So he’d have to use his wings and body to move.
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I mean, not really if we are finding the limit for Aura basied on a in universe ability that has been explained to work that way and to explain away stuff like 7-C's surviving multiple hits from low 7-B's who want to kill them
I mean we do it for Deku and soon even fat gum and others with this ability
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you're confusing calc stacking and multipliers and even then the majority of aura durability feats are just that, feats. Yang's charged semblance just fits into the range that the rest of their feats of Aura durability are
Mercury and emerald taking hits from maiden Amber, Everyone in Haven taking beatings from Hazel
Like Hazel was literally pinning Nora down and zapping Nora with his lightning dust for a short period of time and it didn't break her aura or go past her limit despite her being a 7-C and him a low 7-B, who literally said while zapping Nora "how many more children need to die" meaning his intentions were to kill Nora.
Mercury and emerald taking hits from maiden Amber, Everyone in Haven taking beatings from Hazel
Like Hazel was literally pinning Nora down and zapping Nora with his lightning dust for a short period of time and it didn't break her aura or go past her limit despite her being a 7-C and him a low 7-B, who literally said while zapping Nora "how many more children need to die" meaning his intentions were to kill Nora.
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