RWBY: 8-A and MHS Revision

[KinkiestSins]

Go to the "countering the counters" section, all of your arguments are debunked
Also, Adam's calc has a severe mistake as I've already pointed out

Calc the ice thing, and if its High 8-C

I have a meirry christmas in mind with our waifu

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

You guys never seen a white goose?

 

[Schnee_One]

@King

Weiss vs Randall incoming ovo

Already here when he became 8A

NITPICKING

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Go to the "countering the counters" section, all of your arguments are debunked
Also, Adam's calc has a severe mistake as I've already pointed out

I see no mention of Yang's pillar feat, or Yang's stomp feat, or most of the feat Kink brought up

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

White geese used to stare me down at my old job... I'm not kidding. They'd look at me after eating grass and just stare at me as I go to lunch...

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

You guys never seen a white goose?

Yeah. White duck a bit more legendary on the other hand.

 

[Kepekley23]

I'm turning off the PC now

Will see you guys tomorrow

 

[Kepekley23]

One last thing

I see no mention of Yang's pillar feat, or Yang's stomp feat, or most of the feat Kink brought up

Mech feat is 9-A at best, I've seen it calc'ed at 9-B+, the geyser feat Kink brought up is at most 9-A, the mass of lava won't surpass the low hundreds kg

 

[KinkiestSins]

Already here when he became 8A

NITPICKING

Both are 8-C+ with keys.

Sooooo, at least I am enjoy myself ovo.

I have plenty of matchups in mind for 8-C and High 8-C

I will settle on that.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Kap How about actually calc them instead of eyeballing

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Mech feat would be easy maybe. Link? May be have a decent attempt on calculating depending on the angke.

 

[CrimsonStarFallen]

Yeah. White duck a bit more legendary on the other hand.

Ha

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I'm sure he will, Weekly.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Mech feat would be easy maybe.
Link? May be have a decent attempt on calculating depending on the angke.

https://streamable.com/w93gv

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

@Kap How about actually calc them instead of eyeballing

Calm down Weekly.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

?

I am calm thoough? I just wanted him to calc the feats is all

 

[KinkiestSins]

@Kap How about actually calc them instead of eyeballing

Calm down Weekly.

So as I read this, imma be real and say I was mad af.

BUT.

I am convinced

Only because potentially my waifu could get an 8-C feat one day.

and Seraphina vs anyone in verse would be legal ovo.

But if we get another 8-A feat in this verse from RWBY, I am coming back to change the verse.

Edit: Also assuming the calc doesnt go to High 8-C, that is.

 

[Schnee_One]

<Putting both of your Waifu's against eachother

You ******* *********

 

[KinkiestSins]

<Putting both of your Waifu's against eachother
You ******* *********

They dont call me KinkiestSins for nothing

Sometimes, I fantasize about Matt downplaying my favorite verse like he did DMC

 

[DMUA]

<Putting both of your Waifu's against eachother
You ******* *********

Kinky right now:

 

[WeeklyBattles]

This 8-A Ice creation feat isnt considered an outlier in a verse of 8-Cs/High 8-Cs so why its being considered an outlier for RWBY i dont understand

 

[Huesito88]

Isn't that guy a glass canon?

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Todoroki is a glass canon. And his 8-A feat is only acomplished by him literally going all out.

 

[KinkiestSins]

While I do agree with you weekly on that logic

TBH, MHA needs to nix that 8-A Todoroki.

We cant pick one or the other.

Also, outlier is thrown around alot.

Lets consider..IDK, actually using statistical outliers for deciding things and not throw that word around from now on.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

https://streamable.com/w93gv

Easy. Will do a rough calculation.

Yang 173cm height officially anyway.

Width 176.54cm (roughly).

Destroyed pillar height off pillar width. 476.32 centimeters or just about and 5511114.381464 centimeters3 volume destroyed off that meaning.

5511114.381464 x 6 j/cc equal 0.01 ton of tnt.

5511114.381464 x 17-20 j/cc equal 0.02 or even 0.03 ton of tht.

Not pixel or even remotely perfect (on mobile for now man) but close or at least encroachibg on being around close or enough at least.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@J-Man I was talking about the other two but okay

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

It's 4-B because it's the feat that allowed Yang to snap Tifa's neck.

 

[TheJ-ManRequiem]

Multply the value?

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

Wow this thread is brutal and beautiful. Detailed to the core and handles everything. Amazing job.


Kinky that's my waifu, get your own

Joking, Dio-Pyrrha is for John anyway

But yeah in that case, said feat which I doubt was done casually might need to be reassessed. You might've also made it so that MHA might get a nerf in that case Weekly.

 

[CinCameron20]

But on a real note, a 8-A feat is not an outlier in a verse with 8-Cs, but has there been a display of such feats afterwards (excluding top/high tier ofc)? I thought Weiss' feat was the only 8-A feat and there was nothing else even close after.

 

[VersusJunkie54]

One thing I'm not getting for the 8-A outlier argument is this....

I'll compare RWBY to another verse that is scaled to one feat, and has other lower feats that characters may struggle with.

Percy Jackson has one 6-C feat the characters scale to. However, Percy was greviously injured by a 7-B Volcano, even with his heat resistance. And another was killed by the destruction of an island an acre wide. So how Come they didn't get downgraded in the most recent CR? I'm still not getting what makes RWBY special here.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

Ah the old scream outlier whenever someone don't want a char/verse to be that high, classic.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

This 8-A Ice creation feat isnt considered an outlier in a verse of 8-Cs/High 8-Cs so why its being considered an outlier for RWBY i dont understand

Why you surprised? It's only an outlier for verses people don't like

 

[KinkiestSins]

Todoroki is a glass canon. And his 8-A feat is only acomplished by him literally going all out.

Then why didnt he get hurt when like Deku did?

Deku is a literal glass cannon, he outputs far more then he can take in, literally hurting his body

Those who overtax their quirks in MHA get damage or they revert back to base, like All Might or Deku.

This is clearly an outlier.

Also, fine we can accept 8-C rwby and 7-B top tiers, but we accept...

A highschool boy going all out at 8-A vs pro heroes who finished their school at best are 8-C.

Soo whats the difference?

I love both series btw, and I have yet to see this feat replicated and considering the inconsistency of his quick in general, we should set that aside as an outlier too.

Either accept 8-A is not an outlier in an 8-C verse or accept it and downgrade all other verses with similar logic.

And btw, I accept this one, but for consistency, the argument too applies to MHA.

Which best feat for a pro hero iirc is Large Building Level and Small Town for top tiers like all might.

 

[Promestein]

Don't derail the thread discussing the statistics of another verse. If you want a change, make another thread rather than derail this already derailed thread.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Don't derail the thread discussing the statistics of another verse. If you want a change, make another thread rather than derail this already derailed thread.

Already did prom, https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1583738

 

[VersusJunkie54]

Snip

Because Totodoki's attacks aren't physical. When firing off his 8-A attack, he nearly froze himself. He may have been able to fire it more if he were using his left side to balance things out, but still. Also, Todoroki has taken damage from the likes of Stain and Bakugou. 9-A characters.

High 8-C MHA came from 100% Deku himself. And All For One, and All Might are Low 7-B in their weakened states, and 7-A in their prime.

 

[Twisted_Little_Raven]

@prom you can talk about the statistics of another verse, it can show why said logic doesn't always work, when it's contradicted when used in another series. Contradictions are the worst thing ever. I bring up other series all the time whenever someone try to say " can't get upgraded because this" and then " upgrades because this" then you find another series where someone is upgraded or downgraded for the same reason.

 

[HeroicDefender97]

I am pretty much inclined to agree with Matt and Kepe's side of the argument here--- Especially since many crediable Vs Debaters have previously voiced their issues with 8-A and MHS+ RWBY that they talked about here were brought up in the past held weight and creditablity to them...

However whenever someone tried to point out these flaws (when it's not just calling something an outlier because they don't like it). Their arguments were always unfairly silenced without anyone hearing them out on what they have to say for suscipious reasons.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Im sorry but i still find it very hard to believe that a near baseline 8-A feat is an outlier in a verse with a ton of casual 8-C/High 8-C/8-B feats