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The lower ends seems much more consistent if you ask me so my opinion doesn't change.
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RWBY: 8-A and MHS Revision
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His argument is 100% correct. The feat is contradicted by every feat prior and after. Deal with it. You cannot argue against it other than through emotion, and a deliberate ignoring of the very concept of outlier, which people are all-too-willing to turn their eyes from when it comes to favorite verses.
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It doesnt matter if theyre consistent because theyre all casual
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Or the 8-A feat is an outlier.WeeklyBattles said:
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@Twisted
If all you are gonna do is throw accusations at people and make no constructive arugments that hold no creditablity and weight to them
Than you should stop talking
If all you are gonna do is throw accusations at people and make no constructive arugments that hold no creditablity and weight to them
Than you should stop talking
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I agree with Matt.
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They're not. They're normal. You just look at any feat where the character doesn't nearly-die of exertion and slap "casual".WeeklyBattles said:
I can show you Yang being scared of 6 guys with guns if you want low-end. Of which there are dozens of times more than building level feats. You have no idea how lenient Building level+ RWBY is.
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Whatever helps you sleep at night, unfollowing
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Yeah I'll stick with lower end as well for now.
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@Matt No, theyre casual, every single feat used to invalidate 8-A is a casual 8-C feat.
Go for it, wont invalidate 8-A
Go for it, wont invalidate 8-A
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I can write a whole essay on how much I don't **** * ****HeroicDefender97 said:
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>The entire concept of this website is to rank characters based on their relatively consistent showingsWeeklyBattles said:
>"Doesn't matter if theyre consistent"
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@Matt If you want to rank characters on their most consistent showings then a lot of Marvel pages need serious downgrades, as well as most verses on this wiki in general
Low ends =/= consistency
Low ends =/= consistency
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@WeeklyBattles
Again, stop showing salt and applying false-equivalencies. Obviously leaning is allowed, specially for a Verse that has been going on since the 1960s. However, stuff like Tier 8 for Street levelers, Tier 6 for top-tier heroes, and Tier 5 and 4 for the strongest heroes is backed up by numerous feats, and Marvel divides its characters into classes making it easier to powerscale (obviously a feat done by Spider-Man scales to Thor).
Meanwhile RWBY is a web-series that is only 4 seasons long, made by most the same writers, directors and staff from the beginning. Consistency is more heavily demanded to it than Marvel Comics.
And it only has one 8-A and one MHS feat.
It has less numerical consistency, and less lee-way for inconsistency.
And I agree that Low-ends =/= Consistency, which is why I'm not in favor of ranking RWBY as Wall level.
But Building level is the most generous we can go without being dishonest to the point of wanking.
Basically.
9-B RWBY = 8-C to 7-B Thor
8-C RWBY = 4-B Thor
8-A RWBY = 3-B Thor
To use a poor analogy.
Again, stop showing salt and applying false-equivalencies. Obviously leaning is allowed, specially for a Verse that has been going on since the 1960s. However, stuff like Tier 8 for Street levelers, Tier 6 for top-tier heroes, and Tier 5 and 4 for the strongest heroes is backed up by numerous feats, and Marvel divides its characters into classes making it easier to powerscale (obviously a feat done by Spider-Man scales to Thor).
Meanwhile RWBY is a web-series that is only 4 seasons long, made by most the same writers, directors and staff from the beginning. Consistency is more heavily demanded to it than Marvel Comics.
And it only has one 8-A and one MHS feat.
It has less numerical consistency, and less lee-way for inconsistency.
And I agree that Low-ends =/= Consistency, which is why I'm not in favor of ranking RWBY as Wall level.
But Building level is the most generous we can go without being dishonest to the point of wanking.
Basically.
9-B RWBY = 8-C to 7-B Thor
8-C RWBY = 4-B Thor
8-A RWBY = 3-B Thor
To use a poor analogy.
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Well rwby has two mhs feats just saying
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It's hurt for me, but I agree with the downgrades.
AFAIR, Adam had to try when he destroyed that spiderdroid. And Weiss performing a higher ap feats casually just doesn't make sense. Unless we got a proof that she is>>Adam.
AFAIR, Adam had to try when he destroyed that spiderdroid. And Weiss performing a higher ap feats casually just doesn't make sense. Unless we got a proof that she is>>Adam.
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Made 0 sense
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Just one, which is contradicted seconds later.Thatoneguy78 said:
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@Matt Its not at all a false equivalency. We're not suddenly going to downgrade Marvel characters because guys like Spider Man down bust a town with every single one of his punches. Going by your logic it doesnt matter if they have a few feats on that level as they have exponentially more lower feats.
RWBY has 5 seasons and the main writer literally died so no they dont have all the same writers.
RWBY has 5 seasons and the main writer literally died so no they dont have all the same writers.
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Just one, which is contradicted seconds later.
Oh nvm then
Oh nvm then
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Its not at all contradicted. Low end =/= contradictionMatthew Schroeder said:
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@Matthew Isn't it just a bit of a false equivalence to compare anything aside from a comic verse to a comic verse? Thor is taken on by many many many writers over many decades- RWBY is taken on by one solidified team with only one canon.
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It cannot be overstated how much I wish I could come up with a reason to disagree with this.
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If a person shows a MHS feat, which is then overwritten by a supersonic feat mere seconds later, it is a contradiction. They are either one or the other, not both, and the later is far more consistent.WeeklyBattles said:
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You should say this to Weekly, who is unironically saying that we should apply the same degree of leniancy to a 55+ year running comicbook franchise with hundreds of writers to a web show that's only 5 seasons long. When the rankings we use for the former are actually more consistent than RWBY's anyway.
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Weekly was the one who compared them.
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Twisted I thought you unfollowed? Why are you back?
Regardless the vast majority of this thread is in full support of the downgrade. Many have voiced disapproval about RWBY's stats during this thread and in previous threads before. Gotta be fair on judging and from how things are the one that's most fair and logical is on Matt and Kepp's side.
By the way, Twisted, provide actual insightful commentary here and Weekly stop saying someone else is wrong because they disagree.
Regardless the vast majority of this thread is in full support of the downgrade. Many have voiced disapproval about RWBY's stats during this thread and in previous threads before. Gotta be fair on judging and from how things are the one that's most fair and logical is on Matt and Kepp's side.
By the way, Twisted, provide actual insightful commentary here and Weekly stop saying someone else is wrong because they disagree.
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@Matt Okay then, Low end =/= consistency
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Until we see Weiss prove that she is her > Adam--- 8-A Low-Mid tiers RWBY characters is not gonna fly very well
And like I previously said--- Weiss's feat has been consistently calced to be only High City-Block at best--- No higher then that
Kep made a mistake on that calc at the time
And like I previously said--- Weiss's feat has been consistently calced to be only High City-Block at best--- No higher then that
Kep made a mistake on that calc at the time
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How about we wait for the staff who actually support RWBY like Kalt to show up?
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@Heroic No, its Multi-City Block level
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Thank you that's all I can sayCoreOfimBalance(COB) said:
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You are a staff who support RWBY. And why should we wait for anyone? Everyone is free to give their piece, not wait for this or that guy to come give their judgement as if it is law.
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Seems fair
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Bruh
Did you not hear what I just said, Weekly?
Because Kep MADE a mistake on that calc
Did you not hear what I just said, Weekly?
Because Kep MADE a mistake on that calc
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That's not Kep's calcHeroicDefender97 said:
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Kep didnt make a mistake on that calc, Lina did.HeroicDefender97 said:
Kep saw a mistake and changed it, that is all.
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My mistake, but the point still stands otherwise. Disproving MHS I could see, in some sense, but if we're considering a Tier 8 feat an outlier in a verse of Tier 8s, I'm beginning to develop a sense of overuse of the word "outlier".
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I agree that we should wait for Kal and Everlasting
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I should say that the legitimacy of the original OBD 8-A calc is questionable, as it was done by Vivi in late 2016, when he was sick of calcing, exhausted in real life, and about to delete all his OBD Blogs.
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