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Yeah, insulting intelligence alone is quite bad, but suicide encouragement is literally the number one way to get permanently banned from the platform. For very much the same reason committing murder is considered the number one way to depending where you live to either get sentenced to life in prison, or in some cases, capital punishment. As suicide encouragement is technically a form of attempted murder as agreed by California State Law among other places.
I agree with a permanent ban, not even up for debate to me.
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BasedNecoScaler was permabanned due to abetting Dread of suicide off-site. Though, consider they were also impersonating Ant there really was no debating on. But the fact that they abetted for suicide says enough. I’d personally go for a year at least, if not a permanent ban.
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It was moreso that he was under the impression of Antvasima to encourage Dread to suicide, but I do see your point.
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The worst thing here is most definitely Avengers' last comment in Garrixian's original report (you know the one). It is undeniably grounds for a ban, very much arguably permanent. Avengers has no prior warnings and has been here for some time by now, so I would personally land somewhere lower (6 months is light but acceptable, I'd suggest a year).
Now, that said, if Avenger provides legitimate and acceptable evidence of his claims (acknowledging here that Garrixian contests that they straight up didn't happen), then we find ourselves in extremely muddy waters indeed. The alleged comments are pretty dire and paint a picture of continued aggression (from both sides, mind), with the suicide encouragement serving as simply the apex of a steadily rising trend.
The context of how it reached this point means a great deal to me: as Garrixian is staff, HR is required, as has been said already. This may slow the consensus due to lower amounts of staff on-hand to handle it, but I firmly believe that the conclusion of that report should decide our action of this report.
Now, that said, if Avenger provides legitimate and acceptable evidence of his claims (acknowledging here that Garrixian contests that they straight up didn't happen), then we find ourselves in extremely muddy waters indeed. The alleged comments are pretty dire and paint a picture of continued aggression (from both sides, mind), with the suicide encouragement serving as simply the apex of a steadily rising trend.
The context of how it reached this point means a great deal to me: as Garrixian is staff, HR is required, as has been said already. This may slow the consensus due to lower amounts of staff on-hand to handle it, but I firmly believe that the conclusion of that report should decide our action of this report.
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Yes, telling a highly valued staff member to kill themself in a seriously expressed manner definitely seems permanent ban-worthy.
Also, for the record, from what I know from previously talking extensively in private with GarrixianXD, I find it extremely unlikely that he is truly guilty of any serious wrongdoing.
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Do you wish me to file the HR complaint to you? I've sent it already to Qawsedf, however he hasn't responded yet and doesn't seem to be online that much.Yes, telling a highly valued staff member to kill themself in a seriously expressed manner definitely seems permanent ban-worthy.
Also, for the record, from what I know from previously talking extensively in private with GarrixianXD, I find it extremely unlikely that he is truly guilty of any serious wrongdoing.
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There was no evidence spoken against Garrixian posted on this thread, but that does not mean it doesn't exist. But if they allegations are true, Avenger should still be allowed to contact any active HR group members via Discord or any other alternative. But the "suicide encouragement" comment absolutely cannot go unpunished because regardless of whether or not it is serious, it was definitely spoken at a bad timing.
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No yeah, I acknowledge this. It was absolutely in bad taste and was extremely wrong for me to say. I accept any punishment you wish to serve out, regardless of what my reasoning is. I entirely miscalculated my words and said a horrid thing.
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It may be best if you send it to DarkGrath.
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Yes, telling a highly valued staff member to kill themself in a seriously expressed manner definitely seems permanent ban-worthy.
Also, for the record, from what I know from previously talking extensively in private with GarrixianXD, I find it extremely unlikely that he is truly guilty of any serious wrongdoing.
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I have been made aware of the report and its details already. HR will handle it.
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I like to report Yoazkk6188. He has been spamming the same ctr multiple times.
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Based on new information I've found about Scarlet Witch and talks about how she destroyed the Darkhold in every universe, the writer of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness told Variety that Scarlet Witch has committed acts of worship. She sacrificed herself to destroy the Darkhold and...
Scarlet witch should upgrade tier because " Chaos magic " it's infinite potential confirmed by : creator of this power chaos magic
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About Scarlet Witch Deatroyed darkhold in every universe
According to this information, the writer of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness has said in an interview about the final events of the movie where Scarlet Witch destroys the Darkhold in every universe: “ It was through her that sacrifice was made to destroy the Darkhold in every...
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@Yoazkk6188I like to report Yoazkk6188. He has been spamming the same ctr multiple times.
About Scarlet Witch destroyed darkhold in every universe new information CRT upgrade Scarlet witch tier
Based on new information I've found about Scarlet Witch and talks about how she destroyed the Darkhold in every universe, the writer of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness told Variety that Scarlet Witch has committed acts of worship. She sacrificed herself to destroy the Darkhold and...Scarlet witch should upgrade tier because " Chaos magic " it's infinite potential confirmed by : creator of this power chaos magic
scarlet witch should be upgraded to a tier because according to the latest information from the creators of the movie doctors strange in the multiverse of madness, Scarlet Witch is said to be the most powerful being in the universe, which is what her movie gave us. She is clearly capable of...About Scarlet Witch Deatroyed darkhold in every universe
According to this information, the writer of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness has said in an interview about the final events of the movie where Scarlet Witch destroys the Darkhold in every universe: “ It was through her that sacrifice was made to destroy the Darkhold in every...
You need to stop spamming, or we will have to ban you.
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Ok sorry admin Thanks for the reminder.
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Wrong thread for this
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Report that to the Wiki Vandalism Thread
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I know that maybe this will pass like the other times, but for God's sake, the comments @Mad_Dog_of_Fujiwara have no limits, your comments disgust me, especially the part about mistreating a helpless puppy and orphaned children
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The comment may be in poor taste but I'm not sure that any rule is actually being broken here.
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tbh, This one is just a joke, I am pretty sure 99% of the community can tell by how it is phrased and the scenario it happened in that it was intended to be one. Even if it's a joke that can be considered a bit dark, it doesn't change the fact it didn't break any rules, nor was it attended to harass anyone.
(edited to fix spelling mistakes)
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To be serious for a moment, yes, it was a joke. I've done this same bit multiple times before, even. It's basically my go-to response for anyone trying to claim I'm some horrible biased downplayer abusing the system for downgrades or whatever, and that happens a lot.
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I do not think she should be banned or punished for that, but I'd advice against making that joke repetitive in the future. And I do remember that Zark/The Impress used to make jokes like that all the time before she got demoted.
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Don't think any action's necessary but I feel like the joke's kinda in poor taste - but that's all, really. Nothing worthwhile beyond that
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I spoke to DarkGrath on Discord and she stated that concluding this case probably won't affect the HR report against me. If so, I'd appreciate it if a conclusion could be reached for this case in the meantime.
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Personally, I am not comfortable adjudicating the off-site comments given a lack of clarity surrounding the circumstances as they pertain to Garrixian's conduct, which have the potential to drastically alter my perception of what was said. Given that those matters are very sensitive and being taken up with HR, I will focus on the on-site evidence provided:
These comments are rather rude, but some of this IMO is mitigated rudeness that precipitated it from Garrixian:
For a couple of these, the comments made by Avengershows were entirely unproblematic which makes me wonder why they were met with rude comments. Other users in some of these threads described it as an ongoing beef:
I don't believe these comments excuse Avengershows, but they speak to an ongoing environment of hostility that set the scene for the more severe outbursts. With that in mind, the most I am comfortable with on the basis of these comments by themselves is a 2-4 week ban.
These comments are rather rude, but some of this IMO is mitigated rudeness that precipitated it from Garrixian:
For a couple of these, the comments made by Avengershows were entirely unproblematic which makes me wonder why they were met with rude comments. Other users in some of these threads described it as an ongoing beef:
I don't believe these comments excuse Avengershows, but they speak to an ongoing environment of hostility that set the scene for the more severe outbursts. With that in mind, the most I am comfortable with on the basis of these comments by themselves is a 2-4 week ban.
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Just leaving this out there but this user had an IP Address matched with the infamous permabanned user @NecoBasedScaler69 on the approval queue.
In case anyone wonders why I permabanned them.
In case anyone wonders why I permabanned them.
Same
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Yes, I am also fine with a permanent ban. Avengershows told a highly valued staff member to kill themself. Even if it was offsite, that is not remotely acceptable.
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I think the ongoing scuffle is a mitigating circumstance. I've since seen the context to all of that, and will say without speaking on that directly that I would support a one-year ban over a permanent. It's a heinous ass thing to say in any seriousness, and it far outranks the other petty offenses in terms of how strictly we must punish it as a first-time offender.
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I think that a one-year ban would be suitable in this case too.
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Side note but need I remind everyone that the RVR is not a thread for you to share your personal opinion on. It should be reserved for the accused, the accuser and the staff, unless some other user has relevant information to share that neither side has or can.
In other words, if it don't involve you, shoo.
(I've also taken the liberty to delete the unnecessary messages above)
In other words, if it don't involve you, shoo.
(I've also taken the liberty to delete the unnecessary messages above)
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Yes, I am also fine with a permanent ban. Avengershows told a highly valued staff member to kill themself. Even if it was offsite, that is not remotely acceptable.
What do other staff members here think?
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I have no issue with a ban of one year.
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I have banned Avengershows for 1 year now, both in our forum and wiki, but I personally think that a permanent ban might be warranted, so if they continue to misbehave afterwards, I think that should be applied.
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