Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[StrymULTRA]

Thank you for your help.

To further contribute to this timeline:

September 30, 2022: Charmander blows up via a very rude rant against AKM sama. He is initially banned for 3 months, but it is then extended to 1 year.

Unknown date: Charmander requests that his ban is made permanent instead.

October 2022: Charmander tried to register with two rejected accounts, and then succeeded to join with the Tiokill account shortly afterwards.

December 28, 2022: Tiokill was banned for being a sockpuppet account. Charmander's permanent ban is solidified as a consequence.

Unknown date: Charmander appeals to have the ban for his main account lifted, and seems to have been told to wait for a year with good behaviour (no rule-breaking) in order to be allowed to try again, but I am uncertain about the details here.

May 17, 2023: The Yellow Topaz account joins this forum.

May 23, 2024, Charmander appeals for lifting the ban for his original account again, and we notice that Topaz is yet another sockpuppet account in conjunction.

I suppose that this does in fact look very bad, despite that I feel sorry for him.

You're forgetting about @Sans015, an account that joined in the 28/02/23, which was reported being another sock of Charmander here in 27/03/23, and further reinforced here in 22/05/23.

Sans015 then tried to make an appeal in 04/04/23, but it failed. Barely a month later, @The_Yellow_Topaz tries to join as well.

 

[Damage3245]

Sans015 then tried to make an appeal in 04/04/23, but it failed. Barely a month later, @The_Yellow_Topaz tries to join as well.

That's suspiciously close together, yeah.

 

[Propellus]

I did have my first suspicions on Topaz being a sock when it came to discord considering they had really similar profile pictures around last year. (Which I remember Reiner was in that server as he was also a witness when I questioned it.)

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out. I have finished updating Charmander's timeline above.

Anyway, given all of the above in combination, mainly the toxicity, systematic lying, and unwillingness to truly take any responsibility for his behaviour, I do not think that we can trust him to be a good member of our community, so I will permanently ban his @The_Yellow_Topaz account.

 

[Arceus0x]

I did have my first suspicions on Topaz being a sock when it came to discord considering they had really similar profile pictures around last year. (Which I remember Reiner was in that server as he was also a witness when I questioned it.)

Bruh they have the exact same profile picture on their profile here right now as they do in the discord screenshot (specifically of Charmander) bruuuuh.

At this point it's literally a skill issue

 

[Damage3245]

Bruh they have the exact same profile picture on their profile here right now as they do in the discord screenshot (specifically of Charmander) bruuuuh.

Thanks for commenting but it's been taken care of now.


No further discussion is needed on this topic.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Bumping this if it's okay, I participated in the thread.

Also Adam responded like this after getting reported:

Yhwach vs Kars

Yes Yhwach will know about Kars alternative universe thing but he cant do anything about it because of the range issue he will never be able to reach the alternate universes, interdimensional range isn't enough just coz he knows about the universes, doesn't mean he can stop it thats why the...

vsbattles.com

(Not sure if it's report worthy, but it shows a clear lack of chilling out after getting reported)

This probably is though:

Yhwach vs Kars

Yes Yhwach will know about Kars alternative universe thing but he cant do anything about it because of the range issue he will never be able to reach the alternate universes, interdimensional range isn't enough just coz he knows about the universes, doesn't mean he can stop it thats why the...

vsbattles.com

Sorry about the edits, I need to have this case shown in full.

Bump. This issue has not been resolved and Adam has not gotten any action taken against him yet.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

https://vsbattles.com/members/adam1396.37879/

Yhwach vs Kars

A yhwach clone would never actually get close enough to do that wincon due to the almighty. Yhwach would simply foresee the meger sponge and use any number of his hax to avoid it.

vsbattles.com

"Sorry I just notice she / her. If I would have noticed it earlier, I wouldn’t been making arguments lol."

Misogyny attitude, I am not even female (Yes, I know I have "she/her" but I don't remember what was I thinking) but this type of comments should not even exist

If you keep reading the thread, others ussers are getting tired of being offended for other comments like "you lack reading comprehesion" and etc

This was buried by multiple crises happening in succession.

That said: yeah. He acted shitty there with very little remorse and when confronted, acted shittier. A warning is well deserved, at least.

As for banning Robo from making matches because this one was bad... meh. I don't think this has a strong case on this alone but people are describing it as though there's tons of self evidently bad matches, they should be compiled and handled as a separate report.

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

I don't have any opinion about Robo and his matches, I only stated that I found misogyny to be not acceptable here, do as you please and I won't comment anymore as I was just waiting a response and action from anyone

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

This was buried by multiple crises happening in succession.

That said: yeah. He acted shitty there with very little remorse and when confronted, acted shittier. A warning is well deserved, at least.

As for banning Robo from making matches because this one was bad... meh. I don't think this has a strong case on this alone but people are describing it as though there's tons of self evidently bad matches, they should be compiled and handled as a separate report.

Yeah, you can leave Robo alone. I know making multiple stomp matches isn't in good faith, but it was kinda stupid to give him that. Also @Robo432343 I'm sorry for that.

 

[ReaperAndBlues]

Also, Adam wasn't pinged correctly. Deagon typed Adam1936 when his real username is Adam1396, so Adam wasn't warned of his actions.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Someone did actually link him the thread in the other thread where he was misbehaving, but he didn't reply here when that happened. As such, I suppose I will ping him now that we're getting to it.

@Adam1396 Do you have anything to add in your defense?

 

[Adam1396]

@Adam1396 Do you have anything to add in your defense?

Not really. Sometime I lose my temper when people repeatedly denies simple logic and show hypocrisy.

Can you kindly address which rules I've violated? Just to be careful. By the way this is the first time I got such warning here.

 

[Catzlaflame]

Can you kindly address which rules I've violated? Just to be careful. By the way this is the first time I got such warning here.

You said:

Sorry I just notice she / her. If I would have noticed it earlier, I wouldn’t been making arguments lol

Belittling someone’s intelligence for being female is not acceptable regardless of how much you disagree with them.

 

[Adam1396]

You said:

Belittling someone’s intelligence for being female is not acceptable regardless of how much you disagree with them.

So imposing doesn’t violate rules?
Can you link me the details about rules?

 

[Kazuma_kuwabara]

Just adding that I finally found how to change the gender if imposing is illegal (and even then, I never lied about being a woman)

But I never had any problem with that topic and does not change the fact that the comment is misogynist, this is my truly last comment of this topic

 

[GrathOfLux]

Can you link me the details about rules?

You can find all details regarding the relevant rules for the site here. If specification on this rule is what you are after:

Refrain from... using derogatory comments of any form (ethnic, homophobic, belittling the physically disabled or mentally ill, et cetera), and rude, vulgar, sexist, etcetera offensive language.

You stated this on the respective thread for which you have been reported:

Sorry I just notice she / her. If I would have noticed it earlier, I wouldn’t been making arguments lol

Insinuating that someone shouldn't be listened to on the basis of their gender falls under a violation our site rules, and more broadly, falls under the kind of disorderly conduct that we have the right to issue warnings for - and which you will be expected to follow from this point onwards. This is not to mention the numerous other comments you have made on the thread, in which you have largely derailed for the purpose of insulting your debate opponents directly:

You actually are a living meme. Read my reply again.

Jojo wank has been there for quite a long time. Kars have no way of killing yhwach. What do ya smoke

Read the thread hobo.

I believe it is fairly self-evident why such posts are rule-violating, but if it isn't:

This is supposed to be a nice community where all of our members try to be considerate and respectful to each other, to collaborate, have fun together, and be free to pay positive attention to themselves in a safe environment. Do not be toxic, mean, or abusive to other members.

This is why you will receive an official warning for this conduct, and why you will avoid further conduct of this sort in the future.

 

[Adam1396]

You can find all details regarding the relevant rules for the site here. If specification on this rule is what you are after:


You stated this on the respective thread for which you have been reported:


Insinuating that someone shouldn't be listened to on the basis of their gender falls under a violation our site rules, and more broadly, falls under the kind of disorderly conduct that we have the right to issue warnings for - and which you will be expected to follow from this point onwards. This is not to mention the numerous other comments you have made on the thread, in which you have largely derailed for the purpose of insulting your debate opponents directly:




I believe it is fairly self-evident why such posts are rule-violating, but if it isn't:


This is why you will receive an official warning for this conduct, and why you will avoid further conduct of this sort in the future.

That specified rules, that seem to have broader area. Just wrong choice of words might take away meaning and turn a normal comment into offensive. I don't think everybody here has such high level proficiency in english to avoid such mistakes. Also some might get away with actual offensive behavior.

According to rules being unreasonable, imposing should also be violation of the rules.
When someone is repeatedly being unreasonable how am I supposed to report him? It's hard to mark such situation by just reporting comment.

Anyway my comment wasn’t meant to offend or suggest her comment shouldn’t be taken seriously just because she is women. I just personally avoid arguing with women. I apologise anyway.

 

[GrathOfLux]

That specified rules, that seem to have broader area. Just wrong choice of words might take away meaning and turn a normal comment into offensive. I don't think everybody here has such high level proficiency in english to avoid such mistakes. Also some might get away with actual offensive behavior.

According to rules being unreasonable, imposing should also be violation of the rules.
When someone is repeatedly being unreasonable how am I supposed to report him? It's hard to mark such situation by just reporting comment.

There is no ambiguity here. It's not that you had some poor choice of words that made a 'normal' comment unintentionally look like an offensive one. You called your debates opponents insulting names and spent most of the thread making mocking replies about their attributes in some form. Beyond being a rule violation, it is also evident that it creates disorder and dysfunction on our website, which is precisely what we have a right to prevent and provide punishments for acting on.

I believe you are aware already that you did something wrong. If you understand this much - that your comments were disruptive to this website for those reasons, that it is not okay to make disruptive comments, and that you will therefore not make them in the future - then it can easily be left at that, and there will be no further trouble.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Please, the staff need to check this, ppl are swearing and cursing each other in this thread

 

[GrathOfLux]

Please, the staff need to check this, ppl are swearing and cursing each other in this thread

I have made a comment on the thread, and deleted the inappropriate comments and the replies to them. I will continue to monitor the situation.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you very much for helping out.

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

You're not being punished, chill. But please be careful with what you say next time

I'm bringing this up again since I just saw it.

But I can tell you that he really meant it, he and his circle are notorious for being very cancerous in our local battleboarding community. It's outside VSB's territory, I can bring you some witnesses or just straight give you some screenshots if you're interested.

I'm requesting a full ban for him.

 

[GarrixianXD]

I'm bringing this up again since I just saw it.

But I can tell you that he really meant it, he and his circle are notorious for being very cancerous in our local battleboarding community. It's outside VSB's territory, I can bring you some witnesses or just straight give you some screenshots if you're interested.

I'm requesting a full ban for him.

File evidence to justify your request then.

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

File evidence to justify your request then.

No, I don't like posting 'em in public because it includes harassing myself (like photos), for example.

But I can send it to one of you, if interested.

 

[StrymULTRA]

No, I don't like posting 'em in public because it includes harassing myself (like photos), for example.

But I can send it to one of you, if interested.

There's a private forum made exactly for this kind of stuff, where only Admins/Bureocrats can see.

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

There's a private forum made exactly for this kind of stuff, where only Admins/Bureocrats can see.

****, showing my face to all the admins is midkey embarassing.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

****, showing my face to all the admins is midkey embarassing.

Then just private msg a admin.

 

[StrymULTRA]

****, showing my face to all the admins is midkey embarassing.

MS Paint, cover it, done.

 

[GarrixianXD]

****, showing my face to all the admins is midkey embarassing.

If you want to privately report him then you have to find some way to do it such as DMing one of the admins. Nonetheless, please don't clutter up this thread.

 

[Antvasima]

MS Paint, cover it, done.

This seems like a good idea. You should definitely not reveal your real life identity to strangers on the Internet.

 

[Megaraptor149]

This guy, @William_Joee , seems to have made another account on this site, @WilliamXJoe . Not only did he use a similar nickname, but he also made the same Doraemon CRT. It's clearly his new account.

However, I don't know if having multiple accounts is a violation of the rules or not. Considering that different users on the same account is a violation and can result in a permanent ban, this might also be against the rules.

 

[TWILIGHT-OP]

However, I don't know if having multiple accounts is a violation of the rules or not

It is indeed rule violation.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

This guy, @William_Joee , seems to have made another account on this site, @WilliamXJoe . Not only did he use a similar nickname, but he also made the same Doraemon CRT. It's clearly his new account.

However, I don't know if having multiple accounts is a violation of the rules or not. Considering that different users on the same account is a violation and can result in a permanent ban, this might also be against the rules.

They do look very similar indeed, but the former hasn't been seen since the 15th, while the latter just joined Tuesday. So it might just be a forgotten password situation. I think he may be pinged to defend himself. And if true, banning the old account while letting the new account stay might be okay.

@WilliamXJoe Is my analysis correct to you?

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

This guy, @William_Joee , seems to have made another account on this site, @WilliamXJoe . Not only did he use a similar nickname, but he also made the same Doraemon CRT. It's clearly his new account.

it's definitely his account.

 

[Megaraptor149]

They do look very similar indeed, but the former hasn't been seen since the 15th, while the latter just joined Tuesday. So it might just be a forgotten password situation. I think he may be pinged to defend himself. And if true, banning the old account while letting the new account stay might be okay.

@WilliamXJoe Is my analysis correct to you?

It's a bit strange to say that he forgot his password considering that there is a "Forgot Password" feature that can handle it via Gmail to change a forgotten password. Additionally, there is a "Use Saved Password" option in case you forget your password when you log out.

 

[Megaraptor149]

it's definitely his account.

It seems like we have evidence that he wants to use dual accounts based on this.

But I won't say more because I didn't join his WA group. Maybe Rendy can say more since he joined it.

 

[Catzlaflame]

It's a bit strange to say that he forgot his password considering that there is a "Forgot Password" feature that can handle it via Gmail to change a forgotten password. Additionally, there is a "Use Saved Password" option in case you forget your password when you log out.

Most people aren't aware of this. Regardless, the biggest reason why we don't allow for multiple accounts is because users can pretend to be other people and comment on their own threads. The fact that (1) they have not done this (2) the account names are extremely similar implying that they are not trying to hide them being the same person and (3) they haven't logged into the old account, since they created the new one, implies that they don't have any malicious intentions.

For now, lets just wait to see their response to DDM's tag

 

[GarrixianXD]

However, I don't know if having multiple accounts is a violation of the rules or not. Considering that different users on the same account is a violation and can result in a permanent ban, this might also be against the rules.

A permanent ban isn’t necessary at all. We have people who creates 2 accounts without knowing only 1 account is allowed; I doubt it’s anything serious. Just permaban one of their accounts and leave the other — considering they look new anyways.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, it is typical for users new to the platform to be unaware of the forgot password feature, and the user in question could be young or at least naive when it comes to social media and internet accounts.