Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Did you at first make a CRT to apply said changes?
No?
Then thats a problem

The thing is none of the mods who accepted the blogs told me was necesary to make a CRT.

They didn't recommend it to me, even when I asked them if I could make the changes..

However is not their fault to forget to explain me, but even less mine, it was a human error.

 

[Sir_Ovens]

Staff giving approval of a calc is purely saying the math is fine. A CRT still needs to go through to apply the calc to profiles.

 

[GojiBoyForever]

Are you sure? I always was sure it was my way. Especially if the calc is just a supplemental feat for the same tier.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

Staff giving approval of a calc is purely saying the math is fine. A CRT still needs to go through to apply the calc to profiles.

Yes, but I didn't know it

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes, but I didn't know it

You definitely did seeing as the last time you did and got reported this was because of theLow 6-B showa upgrades which you were also told you needed to make CRTs to upgrade characters

 

[Antvasima]

Apex is a very helpful and well-intended member, and I do not think that it is much of a transgression to scale from an uncontroversial accepted calculation without a CRT. We haven't been very strict with this in the past, as long as the changes to the statistics are marginal.

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

You definitely did seeing as the last time you did and got reported this was because of theLow 6-B showa upgrades which you were also told you needed to make CRTs to upgrade characters

That was for informative blogs accepted by Ant, DarkDragon and Elizha, they gave me green light to make the updates.

Also none moment there was informed to me the same applies to calcs that were accepted, as I remember and ex-mod told me when a calc is accepted it can be applied..

I mean this is more because his protocol has been made very strict, but essentially I made a mistake rather than an act of vandalism.

 

[ZeedKZ]

All of this drama because of an small KK change/minor mistake? Geez...

 

[ZeedKZ]

It's just a small mistake, zero reasoning for banning, and as far as I remember, there were many people in the past applying accepted calcs in profiles without CRTs.

 

[ZeedKZ]

@Antvasima, is the 1 CRT per verse rule still going on? Because there are like 3 Godzilla CRTs...

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Zeed. Let's leave Apex alone please.

There should preferably be 1 active CRT per verse at a time, yes, but it is hard to enforce in a proper manner.

 

[ZeedKZ]

The 3 ongoing Godzilla CRTs are this:

1. Heisei Godzilla Upgrade (5-B to Tier 4)
2. Godzillas Downgrades (Original, Heisei Part 1, GxM, Kiryu Saga and Snow)
3. Showa Era Downgrade

I personally think that is better to finish one subject and go to another, instead of creating 2 different CRTs on the same day for the same universe.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. Agreed. However, if somebody closes 2 of them to be continued later, they would need to be informed when to reopen them.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Yes. Someone can close the other two, when the Heisei one is finished, i can talk to you so that you can reopen.

 

[Antvasima]

I am already very overworked, so I would appreciate if some other staff member is willing to handle it.

 

[Elizhaa]

I locked the other two threads.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Thank you.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Tllmbrg]

Really?
We barely even follow this for other verses, why suddenly here you're closing the CRTs, like I wouldn't care if this was actually applied consistently but it isn't

 

[ZeedKZ]

We don't want more than 1 Godzilla CRT for now, once we finish one, another one will be reopen, and then it goes.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

I think this is not the best place to disucssing about closing thread, take it to somewhere so it will not clustering RVR thread

 

[KingTempest]

Isn't there an all purpose request thread for this?

 

[Antvasima]

Really?
We barely even follow this for other verses, why suddenly here you're closing the CRTs, like I wouldn't care if this was actually applied consistently but it isn't

It isn't possible for us to properly control this for every single verse. No system is perfect, but the rule still remains, and should preferably be followed.

 

[Antvasima]

I think this is not the best place to disucssing about closing thread, take it to somewhere so it will not clustering RVR thread

Agreed. Let's stop now please.

 

[Agnaa]

Previously Apex got reported for inventing characters to wank other profiles, and doing a verse-wide revision without a CRT. It ended with him promising not to do it again.

As far as I can tell, that's the only other time he's been reported, but it was a pretty damning one, with some partial similarities to this one.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Both cases are completely different, and hell, these things happened years ago... And the only character that didn't appeared in the comic was Lucifer and arguably God. And it was just a big misunderstanding at all. And here he applied a calc that was evaluated and accepted, he just didn't knew that there was a rule about creating CRTs first to the calc being applicable in the profiles. And the changes weren't even big... Let's leave Apex alone like Ant said, a little mistake caused an unnecessary drama.

 

[00potato]

I can attest to him being a relatively fine user most of the time, he was even nice to work with most of the time. This is a small misunderstanding at worst.

I think keeping this going on unnecessary and more harmful then positive.

 

[Agnaa]

Both cases are completely different

The revision without a CRT part is similar.

and hell, these things happened years ago

I don't believe the revision without a CRT part was years ago.

And here he applied a calc that was evaluated and accepted, he just didn't knew that there was a rule about creating CRTs first to the calc being applicable in the profiles. And the changes weren't even big

He did more than that. He edited intelligence, and added abilities. You are downplaying it by pretending that it was just adding a calc.

 

[ZeedKZ]

The revision without a CRT part is similar.

But the applications are different. That in the end was a misunderstanding, and in this case he did not knew the rules of creating CRTs to apply already evaluated calcs.

I don't believe the revision without a CRT part was years ago.

You mentioned the inventing characters to wank other profiles, that happened MANY years ago.

He did more than that. He edited intelligence, and added abilities. You are downplaying it by pretending that it was just adding a calc.

Small changes, and zero reasoning for banning. It just added the possible gorilla intelligence and added longevity, and that's obvious, because he is f**king old.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Now can we leave Apex alone, like @Antvasima already stated? This is ZERO reasoning for banning. It looks like Kong was upgraded to 3-A without a CRT.

 

[Agnaa]

You mentioned the inventing characters to wank other profiles, that happened MANY years ago.

My point of comparison was the CRT part. But I'm glad we can agree on the timescale of both parts now.

Small changes, and zero reasoning for banning. It just added the possible gorilla intelligence and added longevity, and that's obvious, because he is f**king old.

That wasn't all that he added, again you're downplaying it. He also added Natural Weaponry/Stealth Mastery with no justification.

Now can we leave Apex alone, like @Antvasima already stated? This is ZERO reasoning for banning.

No matter how much you bemoan me, I won't stop clearing up your misinformation until you stop spreading it.

Also, not every report has to be a ban. There can be temporary editing bans, and editing bans for specific verses.

 

[ZeedKZ]

That wasn't all that he added, again you're downplaying it. He also added Natural Weaponry/Stealth Mastery with no justification.

He didn't, it was already there.

No matter how much you bemoan me, I won't stop clearing up your misinformation until you stop spreading it.

There is no misinformation, you're just treating an small mistake case as it is something that breaks the entire profile and vandalize.

Also, not every report has to be a ban. There can be temporary editing bans, and editing bans for specific verses.

I know, and any temporary ban is completely desnecessary here.

 

[Agnaa]

He didn't, it was already there.

Not on that page, on this page.

There is no misinformation, you're just treating an small mistake case as it is something that breaks the entire profile and vandalize.

I'll let my evidence and your past false statements speak for themselves. There's not much I can do if you deny them.

I know, and any temporary ban is completely desnecessary here.

Well, that's your opinion, but there's a lot more people with opinions here. Now that you've weighed in, they can too.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Not on that page, on this page.

Natural weaponry is still not something considered horrendous, since normal gorillas already do have natural weaponry... Don't know about SM because I never watched the movie.

I'll let my evidence and your past false statements speak for themselves. There's not much I can do if you deny them.

There is no false statements here, you're just creating an drama over an small thing.

Well, that's your opinion, but there's a lot more people with opinions here. Now that you've weighed in, they can too.

I mean, everyone here disagree banning him (except the ones who reported i think) for such a small mistake, Ant and many other people agree with me that there is zero reasoning of banning.

 

[Agnaa]

Don't know about SM because I never watched the movie.

Sure but, that still needs a CRT. Which was my point from the start.

I mean, everyone here disagree banning him (except the ones who reported i think) for such a small mistake, Ant and many other people agree with me that there is zero reasoning of banning.

Punish: 2 (Tllmbrg, WeeklyBattles)

Don't Punish: 3 (Antvasima, GojiBoyForever, ZeedKrakenZilla, 00potato)

Unclear: 1 (Sir Ovens)

Only two staff members have weighed in, one seemingly supporting a punishment, and one not. Wait for more input before you talk about everyone's opinions.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Never said it don't need a CRT, but it's stupid for banning someone that added an pretty obvious power, people speak like he added reality warping or existence erasure...

And also, if you include people that kudoed my comment, meaning that they agreed with me, the don't punish would get far more votes. Thanks god democracy still exists.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Never though some monke profile would get this amount of drama.

 

[Agnaa]

Never said it don't need a CRT, but it's stupid for banning someone that added an pretty obvious power, people speak likes he added reality warping or existence erasure...

You think it's stupid to temporarily stop someone from editing when they keep breaking editing rules after being informed of them?

I don't think people are clamoring for a permaban for any user that adds stealth mastery to any page.

 

[ZeedKZ]

Again, you talk like this was vandalism, addition of powers like reality warping, existence erasure, law and causality manipulation or any smurf hax in this site, when in reality was just an obvious power like natural weaponry and stealth mastery.

 

[ZeedKZ]

If it was a mass-power addition and profile editing, adding more than 3 or 4 powers and changing every stats, then I could see a weak punishment. But it's not the case here.