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He is asking for a permanent ban.
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Okay. Please link to the troll comment.
It is probably best to wait and see if he changes his mind and is able to behave properly after he comes back.
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Honestly I'm sick of these nonsense discussion ban rules.
Here's a suggestion, instead of banning topics, why don't we ban people who are toxic DURING those topics? Most of them are repeat offenders in other threads, and unless it's a political topic, there is nothing cOnTrOvErSiAl on the wiki when it's something as trivial as character statistics. These discussion ban rules are just a way to skirt actual user bans since you claim somehow a character's rating sends you into an uncontrollable rage and HAVE to go sicko mode on the other side and thus it is actually the fault of the topic whole, this isn't a thing, you're just being overly-sensitive over a piece of fiction.
If you can't debate without directly insulting the other person's being, you shouldn't debate period, whether it's an obscure VN or a top-of-the-wiki topic.
Not to mention rule proposed is just redundant with the derailment rules, hello, if you're just piling the same meaning rules over and over again that makes people less likely to remember all of them, and would lead to it not being on effect in the wiki.
Unsure if this is derailment since idk if Arceus abandoned the topic, but still addressing it regardless.
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I suppose that we could increase the block time to 3 months instead though.
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I'm not too sure, there's the chance he might come in with toxic behavior again.
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Okay. Well, if our staff members here, and himself, think that it is safest to permanently ban him, I suppose that we could do so, but to me it seems like an overreaction based on what he actually did.
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If he wants to get perma banned, just perma ban him. Simple
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People over-exaggerate all the time. He made some dumb mistakes and he got embarrassed and thinks he's lost all sense of reputation he could possibly have. It's a silly notion, but he seems to have taken it to heart. I see no harm and all to gain from just banning him for 3 months and then checking to see if he wants to come back, if not then no harm, no foul. If he does, then great a member hasn't had to leave.
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I handled it.
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Honestly I think this is covered much better by the "derailing" rule. People should be discouraged from bringing in other characters on different verse CRTs if they're brought in as nothing more than derailment to the topic and are brought in solely to agitate everyone else. If your comparison with other characters has nothing constructive to bring in to the table, just don't bring it up at all.
Also condescending tones like "Cool, if this verse doesn't get it, other verses get the boot" or "It should be like this specific verse or else it gets nerfed" should absolutely not be tolerated at all, since verses are supposed to be dealt with separately in their own revision threads with proper arguments and evidences, not in cluttered messes that will end up solving nothing and will only make things more chaotic.
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I added in the ban reason that he can contact me via Community Central if he changes his mind.
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Aight, I'll ask some staff members.
@DarkDragonMedeus @Theglassman12 @Elizhaa @Abstractions @KingTempest @Qawsedf234 @DemonGodMitchAubin @CrimsonStarFallen @Colonel_Krukov What do y'all think? Should we give him a 3 month ban to shape up (Assuming he does shape up) or should we give him a perma-ban as per his request?
EDIT: I am asking about Kuramamyfav68 BTW, not Alexander, Alexander was stated to have a 3 month ban.
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Not sure, how long do we ban people who violate their thread bans?
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We already did, he violated that rule.
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I mean, ban him for 3 months. Worst thing is that if he continues after we can just perma block them
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I agree with Colonel, and I suppose the other user could be permabanned if he desires.
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After he comes back from the ban
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Alexander? I was talking about whether Kuramamyfav68 should be perma-banned per his request or just temp-banned for 3 months.
Alexander was already declared to be banned for 3 months which I have no issue with.
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BTW I'm asking for kuramamyfav68's ban status. I believe it was agreed that Alexander be banned for 3 months.
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If he wants to be permabanned then let him get his wish, if we’re not gonna do requests then 3 months is fine
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Oh, my bad. I think this is their first ban, so like one month should be enough time to think. A second, and much longer ban, will be better if they continue after that first ban.
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Alexander, yeah. 3 months.
As for kurama's block? Maybe a month, but this should be his last and final chance. If he gets uppity like this again, I'm afraid a permanent ban would be in order for him. Given his response on DDM's message wall tho, I have doubts Kurama will shape up, but hey, I'd like to be proven wrong.
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Kurama was the one who requested to be banned permanently. But I'm obviously not against it being reduced to 1 month.
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Seems fine I suppose.
But this should be their last chance. If they keep carrying this out again, grounds for permaban may be in order.
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Yes, 3 months bans seem fine.
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@Chariot190 I understand you get frustrated at having to explain things you have likely explained a thousand times before, but please don't snap at people about it and try to remain civil about it.
Thank you.
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Wasn't snapping, wouldn't even say condescending, was moreso being blunt because this is something King is known for and has actually been told to cut it out with. It's even been pointed out in this thread that he has a fixation on asking for scans over weird things.
The worst thing I probably said was it's a nuisance (I didn't even say he was, just that what he's doing is annoying).
U̵n̵l̵e̵s̵s̵ ̵y̵o̵u̵ ̵t̵h̵i̵n̵k̵ ̵m̵e̵ ̵a̵s̵k̵i̵n̵g̵ ̵i̵f̵ ̵h̵e̵ ̵w̵a̵s̵ ̵g̵o̵n̵n̵a̵ ̵a̵s̵k̵ ̵o̵t̵h̵e̵r̵ ̵s̵h̵i̵t̵ ̵i̵s̵ ̵c̵o̵n̵d̵e̵s̵c̵e̵n̵d̵i̵n̵g̵,̵ ̵t̵h̵o̵u̵g̵h̵ ̵I̵ ̵h̵o̵n̵e̵s̵t̵l̵y̵ ̵e̵x̵p̵e̵c̵t̵ ̵a̵s̵ ̵m̵u̵c̵h̵.̵
Atop that, it's common knowledge that King at this point asks for scans over the most obvious or common knowledge of things, if he was asking something obtuse, something vague, or something unknown yeah sure, I could go out of my way to give sauce on it. But asking for something that's tantamount to asking for proof of something like if Goku can teleport, something you'd know from reading five minutes of the thing in question, or even the profile now that I think about it? Yeah, gonna have to say this report was completely uncalled for.
The worst thing I probably said was it's a nuisance (I didn't even say he was, just that what he's doing is annoying).
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I asked for them because the last time I read that chapter was 3 years ago
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