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Ironically, this supports us. Mr. L is literally saying "In this space" not "In space". So just from that alone, he's not talking about world 4. The evidence is on our side, kek.Mr. L: In this space, L Gunder/Brobot can perform at 100% capacity!
O-K.Still isn't arguing the evidence
I think that Medeus' post from the previous thread made good sense.Actually, I was going to defend Brobot's feat; I agree that the ones rejected such as the Sunshine paint examples or Yoshi summoning a Power Star by eating a fruit are vague and shouldn't be brought up.
But I relooked at the Brobot example and Weeb brought up good points. First, right as the fight starts, we visually see the screen ripped in half and their's a starry sky background. Some people interpreted it creation, while others see it as merely teleporting to Outerspace. However, when you flip to 3-D, you see Green dimensional lights as if it was some digital creation. It's not the regular outer space seen throughout World 4. Also, upon defeat, the background literally explodes and they just appear to be where they were before the fight. If the first example was just a mere teleportation, Mario and crew would have had to actually fly back to where they were manually and MR L would have had to just been seen floating in space before that. Also, the final part of Chapter 4 was described as a location at the edge of the Universe. But I'm done talking about that feat, but I still think that feat is solid given the details.
King Boo's feat was literally translated as a body of space outside this world; the Illusion statement was a mistranslation iirc.
I'd prefer if someone liked Shiro looked at the translation and see if the translation from Weeb's friend is correct regarding the Mario 64 examples. But at the moment, that translation was the most reliable so far. But, creating a realm can create memories or history, and it's not like Bowser always controls the outcome of his creations. There existing Bob-Ombs on Mario's side doesn't contradict the possibility that he still created them. Lots of creator gods good and evil create people who are against them all the time. Furthermore, Galaxy's lore regarding the Power Stars is very much canon to and gives more in depth context to the same Power Stars in Mario 64. The Lumas who turn into power stars are of an upper class than the ones who turn into planets, stars, comets, or galaxies. So even galaxy level power stars are actually believable given that lore alone. But, there are a total of 15 main courses, this doesn't include the minigames containing one power star also having Starry skies. Although, so far, the cage is the only one that didn't seem to have a legit starry sky, so that's more than 14 with starry skies using 120 Power Stars. Most of the main courses have 7 Power Stars in them.
Also, before anyone says realms "Are only painting size" actually the paintings themselves are merely portals as seen here. The actual worlds it takes you to are legit massive worlds.
Also, I can agree that threads like this should preferably be refreshed.
Don't "reverse teleports" happen after every single star you pick in 64, Galaxy and Sunshine? It's not exactly a concept the franchise has never used before.I mean it makes more sense then his death causing a reverse teleport.
There is a thread going on and 90% of starry sky feats in the wiki are going to get nuked.I don't know why for other verses we are more strict with the burden of proof and when it comes to Mario it's all "It looks like a starry sky, who cares if it's vague and unconfirmed, it can't be anything else, so it's 100% valid".
Basically what I got from that.There is a thread going on and 90% of starry sky feats in the wiki are going to get nuked.
A bunch of 4-A goofs are gonna need CRTs to see where they're gonna be placed after their faulty reasoning gets lolnoped
Sure that the destruction feat wasn't like a chain-reaction caused by defeating L Gunder/Brobot?It may not be a creation feat; it might be a teleportation instead of a creation feat, but the Aftermath is still 100% a solid destruction feat; which is more than enough to be seen as a pocket reality destruction feat.
What reason do we have to assume it's a chain reaction? That's incredibly unsubstantiated and would need actual evidence to suggest it.Sure that the destruction feat wasn't like a chain-reaction caused by defeating L Gunder/Brobot?
Any evidence for this being a chain reaction.Sure that the destruction feat wasn't like a chain-reaction caused by defeating L Gunder/Brobot?