This is the last thing I am going to say for this thread as I am very busy and rather tired of having to constantly argue against the same exact points throughout
multiple threads. After this I am unfollowing the thread and whatever anyone else decides is fine with me.
"The statement can't be used because Mob doesn't have as good feats as Tatsumaki/Garou doesn't have as good feats as Boros."
I don't know why this keeps being brought up since the wiki has never required pure feats alone to be used for powerscaling. Reliable statements are also used. This site's very own page on Statements explicitly states "A character CAN be upgraded by word of mouth alone." Jiren isn't put as weaker than IZ just because his feats aren't good since he's stated to be stronger. Bang isn't put as weaker than Choze just because his feats aren't as good since he's defeated people stated to be stronger than Choze.
People want a feat and won't accept what the author says without a feat, but guess who the person writing the feat would be? If these two characters were to fight each other they'd be evenly matched. We don't need ONE to actually put this in his story as long as he's told us that this is what he would put in. It's like demanding a chapter where Genos says his favorite color is blue in order to believe ONE if he said Genos's favorite color is blue.
Like honestly, what difference does it make if the author draws two characters fighting each other in his story vs outright telling everyone that if he were to draw these two fighting then this is what he would have happen? In both cases, this is the author conveying to the audience what these characters are capable of. It was said "But Mob Vs Tatsumaki has shown 0 showings unless a canon crossover manga/webcomic was made that showcases this." However again, ONE confirmed that if a canon crossover was ever made by him regarding this, that's what he'd put down.
Mob/Garou never got an actual chance to show the full extent of their power. So their author took it upon himself to confirm their full power and what they are capable if they were in a situation to showcase it. That shouldn't be discarded.
"But what if ONE didn't know how powerful his characters actually were"
ONE probably doesn't know specifically what a foreign fan wiki currently thinks his characters are at. He doesn't pixel scale his drawings and run calculations on what energy levels certain scenes he's making have. Literally no author does that. Do people think Toriyama knows or cares what level this site puts his characters at? No, but he and other authors would at least know their characters' power relation with each other. Even if the author doesn't know the specifc joule count of X, he knows that X is stronger than Y. Therefore we can powerscale Y to whatever level we currently have X at. Also if we're being honest, with how often calcs get changed and revised each yielding different results, none of us actually know the exact power level these characters are supposed to be.
"But Mob and Tatsu are from different stories"
That's irrelevant. These are both ONE's characters and both stories are his stories. He is the sole writer and creator of these characters and stories. So he has WoG over them. People say "but they aren't even in the same setting" however that doesn't really matter. They are from settings created by the exact same person, and that person has confirmed that if they by some chance happened to encounter each other in the same setting, they'd be on par.
There's no reason why we can't accept what the author says about their own characters when they're in the same story but not when they are in 2 different stories that the author still wrote themselves.
There isn't a magical force that suddenly makes an author's words completely unreliable once he's dealing with 2 characters from 2 stories he wrote when he knew what he was talking about when dealing with 2 characters from 1 story he wrote?
"Oh this guy had a grasp on how powerful his own character was and was properly able to compare the power of another character he wrote before. But now this other character of his he's comparing them to was in a different story, so now he lost the ability to properly compare the power of his own characters. If only this character happened to be in the same story, then he'd suddenly be able to properly know how they compare to each other." I'm sorry but I think that's silly.
"But this sets a bad precedent and crossverse scaling will get out of hand"
The issue isn't crossverse scaling itself. It is with invalid forms of crossverse scaling. Like most things on this site, it is a case by case basis. Most of the potential gripes people have with scaling different verses are inapplicable here. However I'll run off what I think would make a specifica case of crossverse scaling valid.
- Both characters and their verses originate from the exact same author.
- Nothing within their stories contradicts that WoG statement.
If a potential crossverse scaling doesn't fall under both of those criteria then it isn't valid. You don't have to worry about some crazy scaling between different series running amok. The fact that people are equating this to scenarios of an author comparing his character to another character that doesn't belong to him shows that people do not fully understand this case.
The Doom writers are not the same writers as the ones behind Elder Scrolls. Goku isn't Murata's character and he has no WoG over him. Spider-Man has had dozens of writers throughout who knows how many continuities all with different ideas of how powerful he is. Mob and Tatsu are ONE's characters and ONE's characters alone. He has WoG over them, and this WoG has not been contradicted. Therefore it's valid.
