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no it dose notXulrev said:The manga contradicts the anime, and per wiki etiquette that makes it inadmissable as supporting evidence.
The anime is usable only when it concurs with primary canon(manga), and in this case it does not.
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no it dose notXulrev said:The manga contradicts the anime, and per wiki etiquette that makes it inadmissable as supporting evidence.
The anime is usable only when it concurs with primary canon(manga), and in this case it does not.
It's a beam described to cut thats why its said to be "Like a sharp and pointed fang" like the name of the jutsu implies. This is irrelivant though. Why would Madara follow through to hit air if Naruto dodged to the side to evade the intital attack? Madara didnt follow him at all, the swing is consistently level the only one moving down is Naruto, even the entry says this is a swinging attack.MostPowerfull said:snip
By leveled I mean the beam aligns with his head which he swings across at a uniform trajectory. Why would I prove something that didn't happen. The beam is swung after it leaves his mouth. Yea but we are talking about the swing not the beam. The entry boasts the swing is impossible to dodge, cause thats what occured in the manga.MostPowerfull said:snip
Wait, you're agreeing with me here. The Razor clearly states that fewer assumptions = correct.MostPowerfull said:@Xulrev
Hmm... Not!
Pro-SoL = Anime + Common Sense + Databook + Assumptions of movement lines (opinion)
Anti-SoL = Assumptions about lines of movement (opinion) + Databook + ....
IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
lolXulrev said:Wait, you're agreeing with me here. The Razor clearly states that fewer assumptions = correct.
And you yourself agree that Anti-SoL requires fewer assumptions.
You literally are agreeing that I'm right but trying to disagree?
Or it's a tiny beam and he aimed to the right of Naruto due to his face being tilted previously like the manga shows and Naruto dodges the swing by ducking left. Thats not hype text, thats part of the sentance we used to put it at light speed in the first place lol.MostPowerfull said:snip
Literally this.Xulrev said:@MostPowerfull
This is another case of camera perspective lol. Madara was clearly in front of Naruto. Adding lines linear to their position in that camera shot is completely nonsensical considering their line of sight was in a staright line (Madara tilting his head up slightly, and Naruto looking down).Zensum said:Or it's a tiny beam and he aimed to the right of Naruto due to his face being tilted previously like the manga shows and Naruto dodges the swing by ducking left. Thats not hype text, thats part of the sentance we used to put it at light speed in the first place lol.MostPowerfull said:snip
Madara recovered after he absored the tree. How does that prove dispatch is fast when it failed to hit anything? Your missing the point, anything short of his quickest attack is a wasted effort (the rest of his arsenal) according to your logic.
Why are you saying the scene continued when the beam/swing is no longer moving but still visible? There is no instance in the anime where Madara's swing is completed and the rod is close to the bottom like it is in the manga. The lines obviously indicate the movements of something, thats why they are drawn... We can see by the line that the rod is cut second because the beam goes right to left.
This is exactly what happened in that scene.TataHakai said:Occam's razor and context heavily points towards Naruto dodging the beam then Madara swinging to try and hit him once more so i personally agree with this.
Every counter can be explained within the idea that Naruto dodged the beam then Madara swung.
Try seeing it in a perspective, because it's supposed to be seen in a perspective.Xulrev said:Except the Razor, when applied, would reasonably showcase Naruto dodging the swing since that is how the attack is made and how it is presented on-panel in conjunction with all present evidence.
Simply asserting the Razor benefits the side you concur with does not make it so. The headbands being cut is a powerful nail in the coffin as is the direct, explicit linework indicating the staff to be bifurcated by the swing and not a head-on beam.
What happens on-panel supports the notion that it was a swing. We need to rely solely upon off-panel work (anime filler) to make a remotely weak case supporting the beam theory.
No it doesn't, at all.TataHakai said:Occam's razor and context heavily points towards Naruto dodging the beam then Madara swinging to try and hit him once more so i personally agree with this.
Every counter can be explained within the idea that Naruto dodged the beam then Madara swung.