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Drop your ranking for all the child prodigies in the verse. For characters like Boruto, you can use him twice, one for actual, and one for potential. Let's make children fight.
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Top 2 prodigies just like they top 2 characters1. Minato: Self-explanatory, I feel. Everyone in the verse wanks this guy off, and for good reason. He's had insane records he seemingly casually set in the Chunin Exams. He was praised as an unmatched talent by the Sannin, which would include Orochimaru. He terrorized Iwagakure as a teenager/young adult, and became a Hokage in his early 20s. Pretty much the fastest person to figure out how to counter Kamui. He was lucky that he had the perfect ability to do just that, but still it's very impressive. Emulated the Bijuu Bomb after seeing it once. Honestly, we could be here all day. Minato's just the golden standard for geniuses in the verse, especially in-universe.
2. Itachi: Frankly, it's a toss up between Itachi and Minato for me. Another placement that I feel is pretty self-evident. Just go read his profile's Intelligence section lmao.
Damn no Kakashi?1. Minato: Self-explanatory, I feel. Everyone in the verse wanks this guy off, and for good reason. He's had insane records he seemingly casually set in the Chunin Exams. He was praised as an unmatched talent by the Sannin, which would include Orochimaru. He terrorized Iwagakure as a teenager/young adult, and became a Hokage in his early 20s. Pretty much the fastest person to figure out how to counter Kamui. He was lucky that he had the perfect ability to do just that, but still it's very impressive. Emulated the Bijuu Bomb after seeing it once. Honestly, we could be here all day. Minato's just the golden standard for geniuses in the verse, especially in-universe.
2. Itachi: Frankly, it's a toss up between Itachi and Minato for me. Another placement that I feel is pretty self-evident. Just go read his profile's Intelligence section lmao.
3. Gaara: Dude became a Kage at like 15 and broke Minato's FoD record. 'nuff said. Gaara's an insane prodigy.
4. Sasuke: Sasuke was always considered a genius by everyone around him, and he rarely disappointed. Arguably the most skilled character in the entire verse, and I feel like his fights with Deidara and Itachi are great showcases of his brilliance.
5. Boruto: Kinda mandatory with the 50,000 times others have called him a prodigy, I guess. I don't feel like he's demonstrated anything that puts him above the peeps above him in terms of sheer brilliance, and his innate potential is kinda hard to gauge given that he's a literal Otsutsuki now, but from what I hear, he had a lot of impressive showings in the anime. I feel like him being here is fair.
6. Naruto: Bit of an honorable mention because while he's not a "traditional genius" like the guys above him, he's definitely one in my books. He's not even a late bloomer like everyone always says, IMO. Dude instantly learned a forbidden Jutsu by reading a scroll, and mastered it to a degree unmatched in the verse's entire history it would seem. And while he's not book smart and doesn't have an intuitive sense for Jutsu and chakra control (at first anyway, he becomes a god in this regard as a teenager), his sheer creativity in combat and when it comes to problem solving makes up for it. Naruto's a genius in my book. And whichever arc you're looking at, he's always in the mix with any of the other "geniuses" present at one point or another.
7. Sakura: Nothing too fancy here. Just sheer intellect and supremely good chakra control that allowed her to eventually keep up with a bunch of heavy hitters. Considering how she has no natural advantages like a Kekkei Genkai or a Hiden, it's honestly impressive how powerful Sakura got. Her mastery over Medical Ninjutsu is also noteworthy, as that's one of the most difficult areas of expertise to master in-verse, and she eclipsed other prodigies in the field like Shizune, and even got to a point where she was comparable to the GOAT Tsunade as a mere teenager. And if ya'll read the novels, you know how ******* smart Sakura actually is.
8. Neji: Another guy who's considered a "genius" in-verse. Honestly, it's still kinda insane that he was able to master Hyuga Hiden techniques on his own, without anyone teaching him at all. Like, that's insane. Neji could easily go higher, but I feel like the others just have way more showings than him, so it's a bit skewed in their favors.
Damn no Kakashi?
yeah fo shoI always thought he was a part of the top three prodigies in Konoha.
Yeah npAnyways thanks for the justifications.
Ehhh, he "belongs" here for sure, but we just don't know much about his childhood or his "come-up" if that makes sense. So hard for me to place him among these guys with way more showings or context if that makes sense. We know of his abilities after he reached his potential, not before.Also what about Orochimaru
Yah, can easily make it in that top 10 given that he was even better than Itachi lmao.and the king of wank: shisui?
Tbh, idk if I'd consider Shika a "prodigy", but at the same time.....it's kinda hard to say he isn't given his sheer intellect. He's not particularly skilled or powerful, but his sheer ability to strategize is kinda nutty so idk lol.Actually what about Shikamaru? His talent is one dimensional so where would he be placed?
Top 2 prodigies just like they top 2 characters
Ehhh, he "belongs" here for sure, but we just don't know much about his childhood or his "come-up" if that makes sense. So hard for me to place him among these guys with way more showings or context if that makes sense. We know of his abilities after he reached his potential, not before.
Maybe I should make a separate thread just for intellect and people of all ages, later. That way even Hiruzen can get some action.Tbh, idk if I'd consider Shika a "prodigy", but at the same time.....it's kinda hard to say he isn't given his sheer intellect. He's not particularly skilled or powerful, but his sheer ability to strategize is kinda nutty so idk lol.
Drop yours. We already know Minato's gonna be number 1 in your list.Top 2 prodigies just like they top 2 characters
I'm curious. Would this list change if Boruto was born during wartime?Minato (Goes without saying) -> Itachi (Goes without saying) -> Kakashi (Goes without saying) -> Boruto (Series shoves this down our throat at every avenue/Goes without saying) -> Sasuke (Natural prodigy and genius; Goes without saying) -> Shisui (Goes without saying) -> Haku (Incredibly skilled at Ice Release, and stronger/more skilled than Kakashi) -> Sasori (Incredibly skilled at Puppet Jutsu; Participated in the 3rd GNW, and gained the epithet Sasori of the Red Sand; Created puppets out of people, and turned himself into a puppet at age 15(?)) -> Deidara (Defeated a Jin and a Bijuu single-handedly; Fought Sasuke; Youngest Akatsuki Member) -> Sakura (unironically; US96 FRA)
Honorable Mentions:
Gaara
Naruto
Neji
Lee
Shinki
Sarada
Kagura
People may disagree, but he could easily become #1.I'm curious. Would this list change if Boruto was born during wartime?
Mald, Muh Karma and Burt really ain't allat, and seethe.People love to say "muh Karma" and say that Boruto isn't actually all that, but they're just being ignorant.
Sarada is more skilled than Kid Sasuke yes, but I wouldn't say she's more skilled than Teen Sasuke, which I also took into account.Sarada should be much higher imo
She's basically an upgraded kid Sasuke
Better usage of the sharigan than Sasuke was at her age (adept at genjutsu too)
Add that to the fact that Sasuke outrightly stated she was more skilled than he was at her age
That's fairSarada is more skilled than Kid Sasuke yes, but I wouldn't say she's more skilled than Teen Sasuke, which I also took into account.
Yeah, same here. I took their teen selves into account, and even young adult versions in cases like Minato cause becoming a Kage in your 20s is still nuts no matter what. And all the other characters that were mentioned doing the things they did as like 15 to 17 year olds is still very noteworthy imo.Sarada is more skilled than Kid Sasuke yes, but I wouldn't say she's more skilled than Teen Sasuke, which I also took into account.
Facts I still go back and watch/read the deidara fight to remind myself how insanely high iq that fight was, for both sasuke and deidaraSasuke: Sasuke was always considered a genius by everyone around him, and he rarely disappointed. Arguably the most skilled character in the entire verse, and I feel like his fights with Deidara and Itachi are great showcases of his brilliance. Also mastered the fire ball jutsu after seeing it once at like.....5 or 7? Crazy stuff.
What? So it was all a lie about him being talentless?Might Guy
Was good enough to graduate from the academy at 7 years old
I thought he's still shit at Genjutsu and Ninjutsu? How the hell did he pass at that age?What? So it was all a lie about him being talentless?
Fraud. He fabricated the documents.I thought he's still shit at Genjutsu and Ninjutsu? How the hell did he pass at that age?
Even ObitoWhat? So it was all a lie about him being talentless?
This is true. I'm pretty sure this is a big part of it.Even Obito
I assume it's because they lived in a war era
Konoha needed a lot of soldiers, so they made the kids graduate very early
Lmao this is an interesting take. @MinatoSparkle thoughts?Why is Minato considered such a genius? Yeah yeah he invented the rasengan and learned FTG but like, that's not really all that impressive compared to others.
Because he just has some of the most insane natural talent seen in the verse.Why is Minato considered such a genius? Yeah yeah he invented the rasengan and learned FTG but like, that's not really all that impressive compared to others.
Didn't it get beaten by Gaara? The intellectual part has a set maximum of 100% and the forest scroll search part is pretty luck based so that doesn't say that much.He set insane records in the Chunin Exams that people were competing with for literally decades.
Uhm, sure? The most wet know is that basic jonin failed to master it by themselves which isn't really that much.He mastered a Jutsu like the Flying Raijin, which is very difficult to perform by your lonesome, and even improved upon it.
Again, okay? He was taught by an Uzumaki and still couldn't fully seal Kurama without killing himself so idk man.He was able to learn Sealing Jutsu on pat with Hashirama, who's capable of easily suppressing Bijū all the way up to the Ten Tails. This is another insane feat in-verse, btw.
As I've said, cool, but that's not all that big. Conceptually it's just spinning chakra. And it did take him 3 years.He emulated the Bijū bomb after seeing it once, which is something that takes Jinchuriki a long time to master, even if they're getting help from their Bijū.
No? First of all, Obitos kamui was quite different as a teen than as an adult. As an adult it's automatic. We literally see them try the very same trick on adult Obito that Minato used TWICE and it no longer works because kamui just activates. And Kakashis kamui works COMPLETELY differently than Obitos and he only found out they share the same dimension late in the fight.He figured out a viable counter to Kamui after deducing many of its mechanics, having only briefly encountered it twice that night. Even bona-fide geniuses like Kakashi took way longer to figure it out, and keep in mind that Kakashi literally had Kamui's other half .
Uhm, sure? Idk how does that make you talented, that's kinda just being strong I think.He was a major contributor to Konoha's win in the 3rd Shinobi World War.
I don’t think his age was revealed by again, that doesn't really make him impressive. Just means the competition was ass. Which is pretty obvious. Hiruzen wanted to retire, Jiraya didn't want to be hokage, Tsunade was a gambling addict, Orochimaru was a weirdo, Kakashi was a child, and nobody else relevant lived in the village (or was of legal drinking age even in Germany).Became Hokage in his early 20s, making him the youngest Hokage I believe.
Such as? I only remember Jiraya saying a talent like that comes once in a decade, but Jiraya also thought he can square up with Itachi and Kisame at once so I'm not taking his knowledge on talented people around the world as relevant …And then you have all of the elite people calling him a peerless genius and whatnot. Pretty much zero mention of Minato exists without it being prefaced with the fact that he's a great genius.
I misread this and imagined Sasori randomly beating tf out of an Uber driver.He definitely is. Dude can beat uber powerful Kage like the 3rd Kazekage and turn his ass into a collectible
Ignore the Minato on top for being slightly better in elementary school than others, the Neji slander is wild9. Neji: Genius Hyuga who is self taught in the most advanced Hyuga techniques that even some adult Hyuga can't perform. Was the favorite to win the chunin exams.
Yes. Neji slander is wild. It's just that Kishimoto didn't help with him ignoring Hyuga and Byakugan altogether. He's a genius in universe fr.Ignore the Minato on top for being slightly better in elementary school than others, the Neji slander is wild
Neji was held back by being from the side branch but he had ridiculous talent feats and was stated to be the greatest genius in the history of the Hyuga clan. Which is a pretty elite clan. He's definitely a top dog in skillYes. Neji slander is wild. It's just that Kishimoto didn't help with him ignoring Hyuga and Byakugan altogether. He's a genius in universe fr.
Naruto too high. But agree with the rest. I'm interested in your justification for Orochimaru. Because we barely know anything about his childhood.Anyway I think you can't really put 1 person over the other that easily. 1 person could be god tier in terms of taijutsu talent while someone else could suck at taijutsu but be equally talented in genjutsu. So a tiering system seems more appropriate.
In no specific order:
S tier: Itachi, Minato, Naruto, Sasuke, Kakashi, Neji, Boruto, Orochimaru.
A tier: Sarada, Shisui ig (what did he even do), Sakura, Hinata, Shikamaru, rest of the sanin probably.
B tier: almost everyone else who's relevant
I'm definitely forgetting people here ngl.
Naruto is underrated af. His unpredictability and BIQ are actually insane, and he invented an S rank jutsu in like a week and mastered sage mode and frog kata in a week as well.Naruto too high. But agree with the rest. I'm interested in your justification for Orochimaru. Because we barely know anything about his childhood.
He might be underrated but I wouldn't call him a prodigy. He's talented for sure. His unpredictability and BIQ are highly facilitated by his insane chakra. Unlike in shikamaru's case where he needs to work around his disadvantages. Btw which invention are you talking about. If it's rasenshuriken, then it's again highly aided by his chakra pool. That said he's definitely talented and not the idiot people think he is.Naruto is underrated af. His unpredictability and BIQ are actually insane, and he invented an S rank jutsu in like a week and mastered sage mode and frog kata in a week as well.
Yeah that's true. I didn't put him because then I'd have to put every adult who is a genius but we didn't see their childhood, for example Tobirama. But yeah, he could have been a prodigy for sure.As for Orochimaru I assume he didn't become a bigger talent in his 50ties than he was as a kid, and as an adult Hiruzen was glazing his talent HARD. Same Hiruzen more talented than Tobirama who invented FTG, edo tensei, shadow clones, etc
No he's 100% a prodigy. His chakra pool is inherently a part of his "talent". Just compare him to Minato lol.He might be underrated but I wouldn't call him a prodigy. He's talented for sure. His unpredictability and BIQ are highly facilitated by his insane chakra. Unlike in shikamaru's case where he needs to work around his disadvantages. Btw which invention are you talking about. If it's rasenshuriken, then it's again highly aided by his chakra pool. That said he's definitely talented and not the idiot people think he is.