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Well, I was wrong. Apparently these were for the manga too, despite me asking for novels. My bad then, these multipliers are fine till I find a raw of the novel.
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Rakudai Revisions Ap and Desperado
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Ok so i guess i can go ahead then?
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Sure.
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Though i wonder how i should put this in the profile. The desperado hax i mean. Should i just mention "passive fate hax" and explain the rest in vs threads and stuff? I am honnestly not sure.
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For more complicated things, especially when it applies to multiple characters, I make different blogs explaining them.
Hell, for major things like cultivation (or in this case desperado) where all abilities come equally by virtue of being in it, we make blogs listing the abilities and just link it in the power section with "is a x level cultivator" (or in this case, again, a desperado)
Hell, for major things like cultivation (or in this case desperado) where all abilities come equally by virtue of being in it, we make blogs listing the abilities and just link it in the power section with "is a x level cultivator" (or in this case, again, a desperado)
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I see, that's a good idea indeed.
Do you think it's necessary for me to list justifications for the powers in the P&A board if i make a blog?
Do you think it's necessary for me to list justifications for the powers in the P&A board if i make a blog?
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Eh, it wouldn't hurt. Most of the previous crts already gathered the quotes, no?
But anyways, this was already accepted, so I doubt there'll be much of a problem if you don't pull a quote for everything.
But anyways, this was already accepted, so I doubt there'll be much of a problem if you don't pull a quote for everything.
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Oh my bad, i didn't mean "quotes" i mean explanations. Example should i do:
Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Willpower Manipulation......
Then BlogLink at the end.
Or should i do:
Fate Manipulation (If you fight a desperado you get fate haxed....), Causality Manipulation (They can force people to blah blah blah)
Then still Blog Link at the end.
Fate Manipulation, Causality Manipulation, Willpower Manipulation......
Then BlogLink at the end.
Or should i do:
Fate Manipulation (If you fight a desperado you get fate haxed....), Causality Manipulation (They can force people to blah blah blah)
Then still Blog Link at the end.
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Well, what I mean is kinda different but I feel you could either:
List the abilities in P&A section and give explainations in the blog.
Or simply link the blog, and write both powers and explainations in the latter.
I choose the latter because of the walls of text, but whichever fits better here can be used.
List the abilities in P&A section and give explainations in the blog.
Or simply link the blog, and write both powers and explainations in the latter.
I choose the latter because of the walls of text, but whichever fits better here can be used.
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Ok i applied the changes. I believe we can close this.
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Due to some minor suggestions I am reopening this to get them out of the way.
Amane Shinomiya should be Low 7C but only using his swords, his own physical Durability does not scale. He can only block Intetsu.
Edelweiss (Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry) should be 6C. Stella is already High 7A+ and not even 2x that would be baseline 6C.
Stella herself is much weaker then Kurono and the other lady who's name I don't remember, and Edelweiss is far superior to both. That's enough to constitute baseline 6C.
Amane Shinomiya should be Low 7C but only using his swords, his own physical Durability does not scale. He can only block Intetsu.
Edelweiss (Rakudai Kishi no Cavalry) should be 6C. Stella is already High 7A+ and not even 2x that would be baseline 6C.
Stella herself is much weaker then Kurono and the other lady who's name I don't remember, and Edelweiss is far superior to both. That's enough to constitute baseline 6C.
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Umm Schnee you linked the wrong Shinomiya
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Fixed
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About Amane, he could scale to 8-A at most. The way he blocked intetsu was extremely slim, however this might be able to get him to Low 7-C.
ÒÇîEven though I can only see him swinging around recklessly......!ÒÇì
Receiving a strong strike from Amane, Ikki had no choice but to retreat back.
His posture was currently broken.
Though the way Amane is portrayed is "massively below ikki in terms of strength", so i am unsure.
About Edelweiss, yes i agree there. She has a scaling chain of over 2 massive stomps over Stella.
ÒÇîEven though I can only see him swinging around recklessly......!ÒÇì
Receiving a strong strike from Amane, Ikki had no choice but to retreat back.
His posture was currently broken.
Though the way Amane is portrayed is "massively below ikki in terms of strength", so i am unsure.
About Edelweiss, yes i agree there. She has a scaling chain of over 2 massive stomps over Stella.
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Only his swords get that AP, not his physicals.
Also Ikki is High end Low 7C anyway, but Amame's luck made him lose his stance
Also Ikki is High end Low 7C anyway, but Amame's luck made him lose his stance
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How does that work? Why would he get that? He only fights with swords either way.
Yes but then i guess he could somewhat scale to Low 7-C then.
Yes but then i guess he could somewhat scale to Low 7-C then.
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His swords get Low 7C AP and Dura, but he himself doesn't
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Then he would just get Low 7-C AP but lower dura.Schnee One said:
Devices have invulnerability either way.
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The first half of the thread is fine. No problems from me. The second however seems to have a lot of flowery language littered in it, and would need to be backed up with feats. The fear stuff even seems flowery, as it can easily be interpreted as the people knowing down to their souls that they're fighting the god tiers of the verse, knowing they'll get their shit kicked in, like how in YYH, Kuwabara got scared shitless after Toguro flexed his power in Team Urameshi's direction, or how that one magic girl in Foresight in Overlord threw up when she sensed Ainz's true energy after he took off that ring.
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It depends that whole thing is the explanation for feats that have happened. And i don't really see how much of that could be flowery language. People with type 4 acausality saying "i have a stronger gravitational pull to fate and causality" seems rather straight forward. Out of context it would be flowery language though yes.
As for the soul it is said multiple times and souls are a thing in rakudai, their weapons are souls, their magic is soul etc. So that's why i said something like "his soul was shrieking" could be flowery language, but "you can't move forward cus your soul understands this fear" is rather straight forward.
As for the soul it is said multiple times and souls are a thing in rakudai, their weapons are souls, their magic is soul etc. So that's why i said something like "his soul was shrieking" could be flowery language, but "you can't move forward cus your soul understands this fear" is rather straight forward.
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Though something i should probably point out, the fear isn't just pure fear hax. The fear comes also from feeling their fate which "spells death". Which as was stated in another chapter:
Stella was a knight with a certain true strength. She should have experienced her own『death』in detail by《Marionette King》and《Haboob》.
Looking at a desperado makes you see/experience your own death in details.
Stella was a knight with a certain true strength. She should have experienced her own『death』in detail by《Marionette King》and《Haboob》.
Looking at a desperado makes you see/experience your own death in details.
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And if more quotes are needed then sure:
The panic until not long ago that started from the assault in Kledelland.
And during that, the fact that she felt her『death』in the presences released by《Marionette King》 and《Haboob》.
The end of the path of the fate she was making progress on.
She felt despair, as if fixedly staring at the hell stretching out there.
― That is《Desperado》, isn't it?
― Uh huh. … And this war is a battle against world-leading《Desperado》. A war in which we'll try to kill the demon that keeps having his own way and that destroys even the causality of the world with his own will and strength.
The panic until not long ago that started from the assault in Kledelland.
And during that, the fact that she felt her『death』in the presences released by《Marionette King》 and《Haboob》.
The end of the path of the fate she was making progress on.
She felt despair, as if fixedly staring at the hell stretching out there.
― That is《Desperado》, isn't it?
― Uh huh. … And this war is a battle against world-leading《Desperado》. A war in which we'll try to kill the demon that keeps having his own way and that destroys even the causality of the world with his own will and strength.
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@Schnee i applied the proposed changes.
Feel free to close this again.
Feel free to close this again.
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So he got downgraded?
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Ikki?
Well yes.
Well yes.
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Are other Rakudai peeps staying in their tier after that? I thought he scales but I can be wrong
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They are. Only ikki is changing. Cus the only reason he can fight higher tiered peeps is cus of skill.
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Wait why is Touka Todo 8A? Shouldn't she be Low 7C Pre SS and 7B post SS?
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I think that Touka should be Low 7-C, after all she defeated Shizuku who is also Low 7-C and Ikki needed Ittou Shura to match her or something like that.
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She also scratched Ouma's skin and managed to defeat Stella while in training
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Yeah, so she should have those two keys. One Low 7-C (for defeating Shizuku) and another one At least 7-B, likely High 6-C (due to Ouma and Stella's things)
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Isn't Ouma baseline?
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Is he? His profile says he is At least City level+, likely Large Island level.
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Him being Large Island level doesn't really indicate he isn't baseline Large Island Level
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Ouma scales to Stella who has this AP in High 6-C: 1.194e+21 Joules (High 6-C+), so I don't think he is baseline Large Island level.
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.....Then why does he not have a plus? That's odd
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Yeah, but people usually forgets to add a "+" to the profiles.
