Quick Nth metal and Batman addition

[XXKINGXX69]

its stated in Dark Nights Metal #1 to defy all rules of science and magic. I think Nth metal users should get physics manipulation, but people who create it should get law manipulation

Post Flashpoint Batman is a user of Nth metal, and he used it on a ghost (Batman Eternal 24), so he should get physics manipulation + non physical interaction in Standard Arsenal.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

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[Armorchompy]

Hawkman characters P&A have a more complete collection of what Nth Metal can do. He probably doesn't inherit Empowerment, Regen and the Resistances since he doesn't wear as much and clearly does not have the same strength as those guys.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Hawkman characters P&A have a more complete collection of what Nth Metal can do. He probably doesn't inherit Empowerment, Regen and the Resistances since he doesn't wear as much and clearly does not have the same strength as those guys.

Ok then so do you agree with NPI for batman and Hawkman and some other Nth users

 

[Armorchompy]

Yeah, seems reasonable to me. I don't think it qualifies for Law Manip tho

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Yeah, seems reasonable to me. I don't think it qualifies for Law Manip tho

I said that creating it should be law manip because we treat creating stuff that defies physics as law manipulation

 

[Armorchompy]

Eh, do we? Never heard of that. I think it's just physics manip

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

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[Transcending]

I agree with NPI too.

 

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[Antvasima]

This seems fine to me.

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What do you think about this?

 

[LordTracer]

I agree with NPI and physics manip, not sure about law manip though.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[Confluctor]

NPI, yes, law manip, not at all. Magic... Citations needed. Also just because it's powered by magic doesn't mean we should list it in his p&a

 

[XXKINGXX69]

NPI, yes, law manip, not at all. Magic... Citations needed. Also just because it's powered by magic doesn't mean we should list it in his p&a

Do you not know that nth metal is magic, that's like asking for proof Wonder Woman is amazonian

 

[Confluctor]

I know what nth metal is, but show feats of magic, then fine, add it.

 

[Antvasima]

Confluctor makes sense to me. Just because Batman has a magic item, this does not mean that he can actually use magic himself.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Confluctor makes sense to me. Just because Batman has a magic item, this does not mean that he can actually use magic himself.

Ok but we can use Armorchompy's Hawkman page for a reference to abilities Nth metal grant by default. Not the ones exclusive to Hawkman, though

 

[Antvasima]

We should only mention the ones that Batman has learned to use in practice though.

 

[Confluctor]

Nah, with stuff like this, we need to give them feats and stuff shown by batman or mentioned in his book.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Nah, with stuff like this, we need to give them feats and stuff shown by batman or mentioned in his book.

Ask armorchompy what abilities Nth metal has by default even without a user

 

[Confluctor]

It's your revision, you do lol

But I still disagree with feats given to characters just because someone else did it. We already have a lot of those bad pages already.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

It's your revision, you do lol

But I still disagree with feats given to characters just because someone else did it. We already have a lot of those bad pages already.

Ok then

So Batman's standard arsenal gets (limited Physics Manipulation, Non-Physical Interaction with Nth metal)

While whoever created Nth metal can get limited law manipulation (no idea who has done it before)

 

[Antvasima]

I still disagree with feats given to characters just because someone else did it. We already have a lot of those bad pages already.

Agreed.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

This seems fine to me.

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What do you think about this?

The best part is, I already had the thread on watch hehehe

NPI, yes, law manip, not at all. Magic... Citations needed. Also just because it's powered by magic doesn't mean we should list it in his p&a

It's your revision, you do lol

But I still disagree with feats given to characters just because someone else did it. We already have a lot of those bad pages already.

100% agree with these two posts.

 

[Armorchompy]

It's not about feats, Nth metal has certain inherent properties which include NPI, energy manipulation/absorption, minor physics manip, vibration manipulation when clashing with other Nth metal and a few others. Anyone holding it would have access to all of that by virtue of them being inherent to Nth Metal, it's like gold being a great conductor of electricity or asbestos releasing fibers that can cause lung conditions.

There are other abilities it gives, such as enhanced physicals and regeneration, which are shown by the Hawk-people but Batman would not have access to, however, since they come from being exposed to it a lot more than he has been and are contrasted by his showings.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

NPI, energy manipulation/absorption, minor physics manip, vibration manipulation when clashing with other Nth metal

So these are the abilities Batman should get with Nth metal

 

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[Antvasima]

It's not about feats, Nth metal has certain inherent properties which include NPI, energy manipulation/absorption, minor physics manip, vibration manipulation when clashing with other Nth metal and a few others. Anyone holding it would have access to all of that by virtue of them being inherent to Nth Metal, it's like gold being a great conductor of electricity or asbestos releasing fibers that can cause lung conditions.

There are other abilities it gives, such as enhanced physicals and regeneration, which are shown by the Hawk-people but Batman would not have access to, however, since they come from being exposed to it a lot more than he has been and are contrasted by his showings.

Okay. I suppose that is probably fine then.

 

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[Antvasima]

So what has been accepted here so far, and what still needs to be evaluated?

 

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It's not about feats, Nth metal has certain inherent properties which include NPI, energy manipulation/absorption, minor physics manip, vibration manipulation when clashing with other Nth metal and a few others. Anyone holding it would have access to all of that by virtue of them being inherent to Nth Metal, it's like gold being a great conductor of electricity or asbestos releasing fibers that can cause lung conditions.

I think all this is fine to accept.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Which members here have accepted what exactly, and are there any remaining objections?

 

[Transcending]

Okay. Which members here have accepted what exactly, and are there any remaining objections?

Well, what Armorchompy said was only accepted by you and OP.

NPI was pretty much agreed to by everyone, including me, LordTracer, Armorchompy, LephyrTheRevanchist, and Confluctor.

Physics manip was agreed to by LordTracer and Armorchompy.

No objections remain I believe.

 

[Jibz]

I agree with NPI and physics manip addition

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Which members here have accepted what exactly, and are there any remaining objections?

Well, what Armorchompy said was only accepted by you and OP.

NPI was pretty much agreed to by everyone, including me, LordTracer, Armorchompy, LephyrTheRevanchist, and Confluctor.

Physics manip was agreed to by LordTracer and Armorchompy.

No objections remain I believe.

@LordTracer @Armorchompy @Confluctor

Your further input would be appreciated here.