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  • Flash should be 7-C via his Flashpoint self and taking down multiple Kryptonian soldiers in tandem with him, with 2-C Environmental Destruction as their actions caused alternate realities to collide and be destroyed
  • Batman should get 7-C with bombs since they could stagger Nam-Ek and even knock him out
  • General Zod should get a "possibly higher" rating for his speed via scaling to Barry 2

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Flash should have:
If there is anything else missing, feel free to point it out
 
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Everything looks good to me, but because it’s me, I’m gonna harp on the formatting

At least Sub-Relativistic, possibly higher (Was able to keep up with Zod, who while slower than him could react to Flashpoint Barry's attacks, avoiding many of his strikes and landing several blows on him before he could react)
If you’re gonna add this justification to Zod’s profile, it doesn’t really need to be on Kara’s profile as well.

Speed of Light via Heat Vision
This needs to have some kind of justification.

Tier: 7-C with Speed Force, 2-C Environmental Destruction via Time Travel | At least 7-C with Speed Force, 2-C Environmental Destruction via Time Travel
The “with Speed Force” part seems unnecessary, especially since you don’t have it listed like that in any other stat. It should just be “7-C, 2-C Environmental Destruction via Time Travel”.

Also, Flashpoint Barry’s Standard Tactics and NA&T sections are blank, so unless you’re planning to add something to those, you can just remove them.
 
This needs to have some kind of justification.
If you’re gonna add this justification to Zod’s profile, it doesn’t really need to be on Kara’s profile as well.
The “with Speed Force” part seems unnecessary, especially since you don’t have it listed like that in any other stat. It should just be “7-C, 2-C Environmental Destruction via Time Travel”.

Also, Flashpoint Barry’s Standard Tactics and NA&T sections are blank, so unless you’re planning to add something to those, you can just remove them.
No problem
 
I guess this seems fine. But shouldn't Barry 2's speed actually be At least Relativistic considering they came from the same source which caused the first Barry's powers to be lost for a while?
 
But shouldn't Barry 2's speed actually be At least Relativistic considering they came from the same source which caused the first Barry's powers to be lost for a while?
I mean, he also isn't as experienced with the powers as Barry 1. And with the weird Kryptonian scaling, I went with "At least Sub-Rel, possibly higher" just to be safer
 
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Nice. Once you remove Zod’s feats from Kara’s justification, her page will be good to go.

Oh, and in her references section, you can put something like: “All information on this page comes from The Flash (2023)
 
If we use the Flash movie tie-in comics, Barry would also get explosion manipulation with his vibration
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Nice. Once you remove Zod’s feats from Kara’s justification, her page will be good to go.

Oh, and in her references section, you can put something like: “All information on this page comes from The Flash (2023)
Should I simply remove it or say she can keep up with him?
 
Btw, do we know why Barry didn’t just kill Zod via phasing like he did to one of the random Kryptonians?
 
Should I simply remove it or say she can keep up with him?
Just say “Was able to keep up with Zod, avoiding many of his strikes and landing several blows on him before he could react”. Zod’s feats of keeping up with Flashpoint Barry can just go on his profile.
 
Honestly this Batman could use his own profile since hes clearly a separate character to the Burton one (since he's not in the BurtonVerse but an alternate DCEU)
 
Honestly this Batman could use his own profile since hes clearly a separate character to the Burton one (since he's not in the BurtonVerse but an alternate DCEU)
But then is there any evidence that this Batman is separate? Flash may have already collided the universe by then and this one explained it in good detail
 
But then is there any evidence that this Batman is separate? Flash may have already collided the universe by then and this one explained it in good detail
The fact he's got seemingly a completely different and much longer history then the 89 Bruce Wayne (plus his own feats via tech). We know he went through those earlier films but this seems like a "Michael Myers" situation where films are canon to multiple, irreconcilable continuities. It's just simpler to make this Bruce either his own page or his own key on the main page
 
The fact he's got seemingly a completely different and much longer history then the 89 Bruce Wayne (plus his own feats via tech). We know he went through those earlier films but this seems like a "Michael Myers" situation where films are canon to multiple, irreconcilable continuities. It's just simpler to make this Bruce either his own page or his own key on the main page
What exactly do you mean by completely different? He did explain his whole past to both Barries, and considering that this is a much older Bruce Wayne than before, there's a good chance that he just improved his technology later on which explains him somehow being able to damage those Kryptonians
 
Just say “Was able to keep up with Zod, avoiding many of his strikes and landing several blows on him before he could react”. Zod’s feats of keeping up with Flashpoint Barry can just go on his profile.
Done

Never put references on a profile before however
 
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What exactly do you mean by completely different? He did explain his whole past to both Barries, and considering that this is a much older Bruce Wayne than before, there's a good chance that he just improved his technology later on which explains him somehow being able to damage those Kryptonians
Because this is a Bruce who did go through the first two films but also clearly has an entirely untapped history (notice the prototype suits before the 89 one which cant happen because Burton's Batman was active for a month by the 89 film) and isn't even from the same continuity as the original one, instead coming from a "spaghetti" version of the DCEU Barry conjured
 
I have a question...

Why are we scaling Zod and Supergirl to end of MoS Zod and Supes but still scale Faora and Nam-Ek to their early MoS stats? Shouldn't they be comparable to Zod during the third act? Or is there anything that indicates Zod's growth's superior to theirs?
 
Why are we scaling Zod and Supergirl to end of MoS Zod and Supes but still scale Faora and Nam-Ek to their early MoS stats?
That is how the profiles are currently tiered. Zod, Faora and Nam-Ek are scaling to the feats that they have shown
Shouldn't they be comparable to Zod during the third act?
They don't have feats and powerscaling to prove that
 
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