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laughs in Anos voldigoad/ Yogiri takatou/ AlovenusTo be fair, every infinite and immeasurable speed user lack consistency, even FTL to MFTL speed character suffering the same thing
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laughs in Anos voldigoad/ Yogiri takatou/ AlovenusTo be fair, every infinite and immeasurable speed user lack consistency, even FTL to MFTL speed character suffering the same thing
ATATATATATATATATATATATATATATATA TATATATATATAFlight speed in DB is an L and never consistent.
Those are exception, however still not really consistentlaughs in Anos voldigoad/ Yogiri takatou/ Alovenus
Can somebody explain all of the current arguments for why you think that the Dragon Ball universe is infinite in size in an easy to understand manner please? I can ask some staff members to help evaluate it afterwards.
.Compiling all arguments:
Universe is endless
universe is infinitely expansive. (Expansive means covering an area)
Translations:
"The Darkness that stretches out into infinity and illuminates galaxies"
The Universe: "An infinite space filled with light and darkness"
There are boundless Galaxies
Infinite galaxies.
The "Darkness" (Yami) is probably interpreted as a metaphor for space since space is black. Kinda aligns with the other scan saying " An infinite space filled with light and darkness"Has this darkness ever been shown in the anime or manga?
The "Darkness" (Yami) is probably interpreted as a metaphor for space since space is black. Kinda aligns with the other scan saying " An infinite space filled with light and darkness"
Has it ever been shown in the manga or in the animeI'm guessing there was never a proper blog made about Dragon Ball cosmology. I also remember one of the guidebooks with Final Form Frieza on it as a picture where it says that beyond the light of the observable universe exists a darkness that spans to infinity with countless unspeakable horrors or some shit (EDIT- NVM it's the last scan).
Why? Isn't it implied that the entire multiverse is a single space-time continuum? also in the manga it is mentioned that a universe is located at a very far distance, indicating a spatial connection and a finite distance.They aren't.
Seperate space times they are.
PleaseWhy? It is not implied that the entire multiverse is a single space-time continuum, also in the manga it is mentioned that a universe is located at a very distant distance, indicating spatial connection and finite distance.
I don't see anything in the profile that tells me that each universe is a single space-time continuum.Please
Read
Zamasu's
Profile
And keep this out of the thread. This thread isn't for spacetime shenanigans in DB Super, you wanna attempt to downgrade or upgrade DBS Cosmology, do it in a separate CRT.
Just check his AP description. Better yet, read Zen'o's profile.I don't see anything in the profile that tells me that each universe is a single space-time continuum.
No, it isn't. This thread is explicitly about the physical 3-D size of a DB Universe, it's not about 4-D space-time continuum. If you wanna talk about that, you will have to discuss it with DDM and AKM-sama first before making a separate CRT on it. Because as it stands now, the Discussion Rules explicitly state the following:Also, what I mentioned is also relevant to what is discussed here.
Honestly nothing tbh, the topic of the universe’s size has definitely been discussed over a dozen times.We already went over the universal stuff, please keep it out of the thread. Also what is there even to argue that hasn't already been addressed for the umpteenth time?
He merged with the universe and was affecting an alternate timeline. ?Just check his AP description. We straight up have rules against not considering them a space-time continuum without any new evidence. We also have rules barring further discussion of this aspect of their cosmology if you have nothing new to add to the table.
There is a statement that says that a universe is very far from the earth, therefore it is a point against the universe of infinite size.No, it isn't. This thread is explicitly about the physical 3-D size of a DB Universe, it's not about 4-D space-time continuum. If you wanna talk about that, you will have to discuss it with DDM and AKM-sama first before making a separate CRT on it. Because as it stands now, the Discussion Rules explicitly state the following:
- Do not attempt to change the current Dragon Ball cosmology and power ratings without new evidence from an ongoing manga or anime series. We have heard all of the arguments many times before, and are so exhausted of constantly dealing with those topics that bringing them up recurrently leads to nowhere, with the discussion threads being oftentimes closed immediately.
The context " very far" mean nothing though, what matter is how farThere is a statement that says that a universe is very far from the earth, therefore it is a point against the universe of infinite size.
We already went over the universal stuff, please keep it out of the thread. Also what is there even to argue that hasn't already been addressed for the umpteenth time?
Have a look here. I believe there are new arguments.Compiling all arguments:
Universe is endless
universe is infinitely expansive. (Expansive means covering an area)
Translations:
"The Darkness that stretches out into infinity and illuminates galaxies"
The Universe: "An infinite space filled with light and darkness"
There are boundless Galaxies
Infinite galaxies.
Zen'o's profile states as much:He merged with the universe and was affecting an alternate timeline. ?
I'm just asking why they are separate space-time continuums since they mention it here.
@DarkDragonMedeus @AKM sama I believe you can better explain what Zeno's current description means.what does that even mean
I think.....................should we move this thread to content revision, at this point it look more of a CRT than a Q&A thread
Don't worry, I'm making a thread specifically to address this.No. Combat speed scales to their flight speed. But flight speed does not scale to combat speed. Best example of this is namek saga where it took many FTL fighters a long time to travel the circumference of namek. Another good example is whis who's fastest ever speed he flew is calculated at 500 quadrillion c, but SSG Goku is casually 196 quadrillion C combat speed surpassing whis the next arc.
Tbh.
What are even the main arguments against infinite size U7?
Have a look here. I believe there are new arguments.
What exactly are you saying no to? I'm a little confused by that considering what you've sent.Except, no.
Higher the ki mastery and ki amount, higher your speed in all accounts. It isn't just called "Dancing in the Sky Arts" for no reason.What exactly are you saying no to? I'm a little confused by that considering what you've sent.
Quote here for those who didn't click the link(this is in terms of flight)
"As a unique technique of the Tsuru-sen School, it seems that Tsuru-sennin is the one who thought it up. By emitting ki from the entire body, one moves as if fluttering through the air. It's a basic ki manipulation technique, on par with the ki blast. Anyone can do it merely be learning how to use ki, as seen with Videl. Also, Kuririn and Goku learned this technique through self study. The speed the user moves through the air with it is related to their level of skill and the size of their ki, and Gohan managed to fly faster than Kinto-un's maximum speed.
Yep, it uses the source Null used.Isn't established that dbz fighting and combat speed as least on par with thier fighting speed if not faster?
It's even stated in the dbz page.
Nah bro, it say that the higher level of ki you are, the faster you become that allExcept, no.
"Combat speed is far higher than travel speed" is disingenuous, since the size and control of one's Ki influences both equally.