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Question about dragon ball universe size

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Can somebody explain all of the current arguments for why you think that the Dragon Ball universe is infinite in size in an easy to understand manner please? I can ask some staff members to help evaluate it afterwards.
 
That's not a contradiction. You can take time to travel an infinite distance, it's still considered infinite speed. And that's not true lmao, granolah and gas have multiple feats of outpacing instant transmission. If anything, infinite speed is terrifyingly consistent.
What do you mean? Gas is explicitly slower than Instant Transmission going by the latest chapter.
 
I think it'll be better to make a better, more organized CRT with all the proofs there instead of scrambled in the thread itself.
 
Can somebody explain all of the current arguments for why you think that the Dragon Ball universe is infinite in size in an easy to understand manner please? I can ask some staff members to help evaluate it afterwards.
The raw translations from the daizenshuu are the correct ones. The traditional translations we usually see are rather dated (it’s the same translation that said the solar system is a galactic nebula).

The raws say that stars/galaxies are endlessly expanding but the entire space of the living universe as a whole is infinite.
Also, as a side note, Beerus’s planet is farther distance than the Kaioshin realm and afterlife, which are outside the universe.
 
Finite travel speed but infinite combat speed. Like whis.
But isn’t their flight speed directly proportional to their combat speed and reactions? That’s the conclusion we came to when someone tried to downgrade the verse by separating flight from combat (which is bad because they’re literally always flying during combat).

Generally it wouldn’t make sense for their flight to be infinitely slower than their punches, kicks, and ki blasts for some reason.
 
But isn’t their flight speed directly proportional to their combat speed and reactions? That’s the conclusion we came to when someone tried to downgrade the verse by separating flight from combat (which is bad because they’re literally always flying during combat).
No. Combat speed scales to their flight speed. But flight speed does not scale to combat speed. Best example of this is namek saga where it took many FTL fighters a long time to travel the circumference of namek. Another good example is whis who's fastest ever speed he flew is calculated at 500 quadrillion c, but SSG Goku is casually 196 quadrillion C combat speed surpassing whis the next arc.
 
How do the characters ever tag each other in midair in this case if their flight is like molasses compared to their combat speeds?
 
No. Combat speed scales to their flight speed. But flight speed does not scale to combat speed. Best example of this is namek saga where it took many FTL fighters a long time to travel the circumference of namek.
Plot convenience much? Fights would be over instantly if they were flying at FTL speeds non stop. They were actively trying to keep a low profile in Namek the whole ******* time. This is just straight up a dumb argument to not scale flight speed to their combat speed. DB characters also have a history of keeping up with each others' ki blasts in the flight department too, and can even do combat with each other mid-flight if the Tournament of Power is anything to go by. What, you wanna downgrade Piccolo's movement speed from Relativistic to some other unknown feat because his moon beam was an attack and not a movement-based thing?

This is straight up like saying why people outspeeding bullets on their own two legs can't cover dozen-long km distance journeys within a few seconds (Which happens a lot in video games where people casually outpace bullets but aren't shown travelling cross-country distances in seconds). In b4 someone brings up Snake Way.

Another good example is whis who's fastest ever speed he flew is calculated at 500 quadrillion c, but SSG Goku is casually 196 quadrillion C combat speed surpassing whis the next arc.
You do realize that all of this turns to infinite if the whole "infinite universe" thing is accepted, right? Whis won't have a 500 quadrillion C movement speed feat anymore and neither will SSG Goku's speed be 196 quadrillion C, it all jumps to infinite. Unless you wanna suggest less than FTL movement speed with Infinite combat speed and reactions, which is beyond ******* ludicrous.
 
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That's not a contradiction. You can take time to travel an infinite distance, it's still considered infinite speed. And that's not true lmao, granolah and gas have multiple feats of outpacing instant transmission. If anything, infinite speed is terrifyingly consistent.
Instant Transmition is not actually instant. It takes time between disappearing and reappearing. Outpacing IT just means you move faster than this little timeframe between the two things.
 
Instant Transmition is not actually instant. It takes time between disappearing and reappearing. Outpacing IT just means you move faster than this little timeframe between the two things.
Time to calculate the speed of Instant Transmission then UwU, oh wait, that'd be infinite too if this size CRT gets a go
 
They probably are since beerus' planet is implied to be in a different dimension. Or you know, whis is holding back.
Yeah the proof is the numerous statements of it being infinite. It would look much more better in a CRT format but I'm too lazy to start one.
"Whis is holding back".


The Arale episode feat.
 
Time to calculate the speed of Instant Transmission then UwU, oh wait, that'd be infinite too if this size CRT gets a go
Lmao.

But for real, there is multiple examples of Goku going pop, something happening in-between, then Goku reappearing.

Outpacing IT is nothing, really, lmao
 
I personally disagree with infinite speed, especially when they completely lack any consistency . I believe whis travelling the universe is a PIS.
 
How do the characters ever tag each other in midair in this case if their flight is like molasses compared to their combat speeds?
This is giving me war flashbacks of combat vs flight speed.
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