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Puella Magi Verse: Revival Discussion Thread

Since our Mr.resourceful doesn't understand, there's nothing I can do.
It's not to be a bitch, it's that other than completely scanless (or untranslated), you post stuff that's barely relevant to the ongoing discussion. I'm pretty sure the current topic rn is the stats of the regular magical girls + minor stuff for God Tiers.

Like seriously man, I expect serious help, not things from a novel I'm not even sure is canon in a very confused English.
 
Like seriously man, I expect serious help, not things from a novel I'm not even sure is canon in a very confused English.
Okay, I overestimated your knowledge of PMMM. In the commemorative book for the tenth anniversary, NullMagicalGirl is placed alongside other twin works, such as Joan of Arc.
I have many translations of magical records there, and I will search for some content that meets the requirements.
 
Okay, I overestimated your knowledge of PMMM. In the commemorative book for the tenth anniversary, NullMagicalGirl is placed alongside other twin works, such as Joan of Arc.
I have many translations of magical records there, and I will search for some content that meets the requirements.
I generally aren't in light novels, that's all lol.
 
Update: I finished rereading Tart Magica and I will listed some scaling relevant feats that I found.

Corbeau and Riz were pretty much equal in term of strength in their first confrontation. Riz was the better fighter but Corbeau abilities was even things out for her.

Fleche has AP rating 5 but she easily harmed Tart who has durability rating 7.

Elisa managed to physically match Tart, although this is just a sparing session.

Melissa has rating 2 for Durability but survives Corbeau attacks whose AP rating was 3.

Riz killed Lapin several times despite the latter is stronger than in term of AP. Riz is 3 while Lapin is 4.

Melissa survives an attack from Isabeau, who should be superior to Tart ver 2.

Isabeau labyrinth encompassed the entire France nati
in Magia Record A small part of Isabeau's body can include France and Britain.Kubby mentioned that her ending will eventually surround the whole earth-moon system and rule the whole time and space forever.
 
in Magia Record A small part of Isabeau's body can include France and Britain.Kubby mentioned that her ending will eventually surround the whole earth-moon system and rule the whole time and space forever.
in Magia Record A small part of Isabeau's body can include France and Britain.Kubby mentioned that her ending will eventually surround the whole earth-moon system and rule the whole time and space forever.
At the last activity Isabeau took away two independent time and space in order to destroy tart, because she predicted that she would eventually be killed by tart.
 
Magia Record Episode 23 at 11:17. Nemu Hiiragi said that the impact that could destroy Kamihama City had no effect on the force field she created. Nemu Hiiragi's Durability should be raised to City level.
 
I made a rough calculation. Because there is no specific city data, I used Yokohama City to calculate the area and radius. It is the prototype of Kamihama City.
W=(11804.65^3)*((27136*1.37895+8649)^(1/2)/13568)-93/13568)^2≈132,204,080.7 Tons or132.2 Megatons
I am not proficient in this yet, I don't know if it is correct or not.
 
Just upload the pic(s) on imgur then paste the album as text in the post.
Sorry for the delay, been busy with works this past week.

So about the scaling basis, I think we should use H.N Elly as the basis. She is weak enough that an inexperience magical girl like Sayaka was able to easily beats her.
 
I guess so.

Another reason to scrap those stats then, as Homura being the bottom in stats really doesn't make sense the more I think about it.
Let's line up the scaling first. Note: I won't include Madoka because of her current profile is only consists of her Magia Record version.

Elly (the basis of the scaling) < Sayaka (One shots Elly) < Kyoko (easily manhandled Sayaka, somewhat matched Mami in in a Spin-off manga, but still overall weaker) < Mami and Homura's physically (Mami is regarded as the superior magical girl than Kyoko, Homura physically matches Mami) < Patricia (requires the combined efforts from Madoka, Mami and Homura to be beaten) </= Charlotte (One shotting Mami) < Homura's weapon enchantments (One shots Patricia and Charlotte).
 
Unrelated but shouldn't Madoka have NEP Nature 1, Aspect 1 and 5? 1 is because she clearly doesn't need the Soul Gem anymore, 5 due to her not existing anymore across history. Homura idk what she'd get tho.
 
Unrelated but shouldn't Madoka have NEP Nature 1, Aspect 1 and 5? 1 is because she clearly doesn't need the Soul Gem anymore, 5 due to her not existing anymore across history. Homura idk what she'd get tho.
I mean, it would be a pretty useless NEP, her being Acausal type 5 should have already cover this anyway.

Since we're on the topic of God Tier character, Madoka's avatar is stated to hold an entire 4D space-time under her skirt. If my understanding is correct, should this be qualify as Low 1-C? I saying this because this can possibly be uses to boost her to Infinitely above baseline.
 
I mean, it would be a pretty useless NEP, her being Acausal type 5 should have already cover this anyway.
It's called accuracy, my guy. This is an indexing site, the dick measuring fights come later. If there are details to index, then we do so.
Since we're on the topic of God Tier character, Madoka's avatar is stated to hold an entire 4D space-time under her skirt. If my understanding is correct, should this be qualify as Low 1-C? I saying this because this can possibly be uses to boost her to Infinitely above baseline.
No.
 
It's called accuracy, my guy. This is an indexing site, the dick measuring fights come later. If there are details to index, then we do so.
I mean, it's more of a redundancy. But I see no harm in adding it, so be my guest.
What about Homura's mindhax potency? She can mindhaxed Madoka in her lower dimensional form (Homulily), her mindhax in her Devil Homura form should be qualitatively superior than her Homulily mindhax.
 
I mean, it's more of a redundancy. But I see no harm in adding it, so be my guest.
I talk about this because BDE in itself adds literally nothing other than Acausality 1 and Resistance to Space-Time Manipulation, and often is associated with NEP, but we add that regardless because it's accurate. Plus it's nor even redundant, as NEP now isn't even that Uber-Invincible state of before, but just Incorporeality + Immunity to X thing due to lacking it. Acausality 5 doesn't mean you lack anything, just being unbound from Causality to the point you can't be interacted anymore, it doesn't mean by itself that the users are erased from history, that's a PMMM only thing. It's why Chara from Undertale has NEP despite their AE 1 already "covers" that in fights.
What about Homura's mindhax potency? She can mindhaxed Madoka in her lower dimensional form (Homulily), her mindhax in her Devil Homura form should be qualitatively superior than her Homulily mindhax.
I don't think it works like that, hax potency isn't directed from dimensionality of the user anymore, same with layers. There's no evidence of her mind hax becoming stronger, especially when it had 5D potency already as Homulily.

It's why a lot of Arceus' powers aren't Tier 1 in potency, no feats.
 
I'll say a few words about type 1.
The null Magic Girl states that there is an infinitely reproducing black hole universe in the universe, and its scale is already N ^ N. At the same time, 4D space is greater than 3D+1D time dimension. 4D+1D<Record Universe, while Madoka can reshape the entire worldview with just consciousness.
 
I'll say a few words about type 1.
The null Magic Girl states that there is an infinitely reproducing black hole universe in the universe, and its scale is already N ^ N. At the same time, 4D space is greater than 3D+1D time dimension. 4D+1D<Record Universe, while Madoka can reshape the entire worldview with just consciousness.
Type 1 what?
 
I don't think it works like that, hax potency isn't directed from dimensionality of the user anymore, same with layers. There's no evidence of her mind hax becoming stronger, especially when it had 5D potency already as Homulily.
We do have the whole Karmic Destiny value though. It is what determined how powerful someone is in this verse. Pretty sure we already used this to upscale every God Tier power to their dimensionality level.
 
We do have the whole Karmic Destiny value though. It is what determined how powerful someone is in this verse. Pretty sure we already used this to upscale every God Tier power to their dimensionality level.
But... Homura's mind hax is already 5D in potency 🐸.

At best we can say it's a layer more, but even on that I'm iffy as **** because it hasn't feats like that, it'd be pretty circular after all.

Regardless, next is finding stuff for speed, as MFTL sounds juicy asf if the Wrath arc stuff is legit.
low-1C,I made a mistake and copied the noun library directly.
I see that, good supportive evidence at least.

Though @Beast_Zero_Gudako if you can confirm Null Magical Girl being canon that'd be neat.
 
But... Homura's mind hax is already 5D in potency 🐸.

At best we can say it's a layer more, but even on that I'm iffy as **** because it hasn't feats like that, it'd be pretty circular after all.

Regardless, next is finding stuff for speed, as MFTL sounds juicy asf if the Wrath arc stuff is legit.

I see that, good supportive evidence at least.

Though @Beast_Zero_Gudako if you can confirm Null Magical Girl being canon that'd be neat.
irohaThe real ability of is to go back to time and space. Does this need to be revised?
 
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