In the eyes of the upper layer, the infinitely large lower layer is just an infinitely small point (but I don't want to repeat it)
Punish you to read the last sentence of the tetrahedron again.
I have no idea what you mean. Infinite time axes are infinite dimensional space-time continuum (H-1B). We already assume timeline to extend both direction infinitely so it doesn't really matter if it's Aristotle's world view or not. But the axes in question have to be described in a structured way somehow. I was hoping clarifying that would earn you the rating you proposed. Again I am neutral, just trying to align the point of contention to VSB standard.
Yes! It'd help tremendously if people care to actually explain stuff using VSB standard. Either the quantitive difference of infinite layers going up and down or infinite axes of timeline.
I would like to repeat the summary of the nth time: first of all, the three-dimensional contains an infinite time axis, the infinite past, the future and the present, and it is clear that the three-dimensional infinity is only an infinitesimal point at the upper level, and so on.
Hell.
I don't think you need to put yourself through combing over the entire thread, at least not yet. This set of scans is like, 90% of what we are arguing about so it'd be immensely helpful if you could just give your impression of that as it pertains to the "layers" and whether there's sufficient basis in the scans to interpret them as dimensionality layers.
Is there some context that I'm missing, perchance? The only mildly spicy tidbit in these scans is the "From each point of my body, a tetahedron evolves, both infinitesimally small and boundlessly large, transfiguring me into a singularity." If it was referring to the relationship between the tetahedron layers, that'd be a rather strong case for each layer being a dimensional difference (All of that apparently being part of a 3-D object throws that into suspicion, but let's put this aside for now). But this seems to be just a contextless remark by the narration. Can't make heads or tails of how it relates to the layers themselves, if at all.
the thread was remade, due to it becoming too long and being at a stalemate for a fair bit of time.
Not really, this is just what passes for a Tier 1 thread these days.
I'm in the same boat.
I am thinking a minimally 2D temporal dimension on top of a multiverse itself would warrant a Tier 1 revision thread per se.
Ig infinite time-routes/roads being reasoned as several different directions/axises, different from railroad of past-future was proposed in previous thread. All axis/roads combined being high 1-B.
I dunno if this is the context that you're looking for, but basically prior the scene with the letter, the space-time continuum collapsed, dissolving the world around MC. So the whole scene after this most likely occured within some void space.
This seems like a metaphor for the MC's life being in disarray.
This just looks like a shitty machine translation of the same scan he just read.
I should also probably mentioned this, the train station that I mentioned wasn't like a location within a universe or something, it's more like some sort of metaphysical location that allows the movement through time with the train track as the time axis. The tracks stretches and branches infinitely.
Bump, so what's ur stance on this thread? Is having infinite time routes different from each routes that goes to past-future, which to me seems infinite time directions, aren't enough?
If the tracks extend from the infinite future to the infinite past, wouldn't that make the tracks basically a timeline? That just seems like infinite timelines to me.
This idea comes from the fact that the time Railway seems to just extend to one universe/timeline, considering thats the only thing thats ever mentioned in the context of the novel. Combining that with the only other mention of infinity being the layers before being reasoned to be the same thing.
I don't understand, are you inventing a connection between the railway and the layers or something? This doesn't exactly seem like something that proves that tracks branch infinitely.
No one called her 2-A, they called this structure is 2-A at best i guess.
She would be 2-A if you take the Time Railway as 2-A because she pretty blatantly fuses with the structure.
If that were the case, then that's the way she should be.
In fact, I think it is enough to just look at the construction of the infinite levels of the regular tetrahedron
This continues to be forced to say the least, since it's basically "both have mention of an infinite amount, so there's a connection" with nothing to support it, especially when this is infinite tracks with infinite paths, there are just two infinities.
I think it is enough to draw 4D as the form of infinite hierarchy from the regular tetrahedron alone.
【正四面体のなかには、正四面体が無限に続き、その外を、正四面体が無限に覆い囲んでいる】。
It's quite obvious what it means, when you see inside the smaller Tetrahedron you notice the layers, one being smaller than the previous one, and then you realize that there are infinite layers.
Within each layer there are infinite Tetrahedrons, and outside this small Terahedron there are infinitely more emerging.
Regarding the size of the layers, I consider this a bit difficult to say, as it never mentions the real size of the layers, as what (apparently) is being used to prove infinite size does not speak about the size of each layer, but rather, the size of the entire layer hierarchy.
When I saw this, I wasn't sure if the English text was the translation or not, but if so, this translation is clearly horrible, even the ( ) are wrong.
Although my translation is not 100% reliable, I still believe that it is easily better translated than this text in English.
Finally, talking about the elephant in the room.
I translated this part of the original text:
This is the translation used in the comments.
? What are you talking about? This book doesn't mention a single word about Madoka
If you don't think the bottom is a time railway, what about the later trip?
I never said that I don't think the bottom is not the railroad, but you said that the railway is compared to a point in size, but the point may very well just be the "final door" to enter the railway.
I thought it was Madoka who was going through this whole situation, but that doesn't matter.
