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This one to be specificThen it should be changed, there was an entire ass thread months and months ago telling everyone "References are mandatory now" in no uncertain terms
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This one to be specificThen it should be changed, there was an entire ass thread months and months ago telling everyone "References are mandatory now" in no uncertain terms
It is, look at the introductionThen it should be changed, there was an entire ass thread months and months ago telling everyone "References are mandatory now" in no uncertain terms
References is a section in character profiles where the source references can be shown. They should be used whenever and wherever possible to increase the reliability of the information presented in the pages and to improve the overall quality of this wiki.
Are you sure that such text isn't referring to the immediately preceding paragraph, which talks about giving an exact timestamp for feats?Unless I'm misinformed, the current references rule page states that they are optional:
Much harder to interpret what that sentence is referencing given its just a standalone statement. I may have misunderstoodAre you sure that such text isn't referring to the immediately preceding paragraph, which talks about giving an exact timestamp for feats?
not to derail, but why did you put Bleach there? the worst they have is random fan service.Never mind. I checked through the arguments here and agree that we have plenty far more morally disgusting and depraved verses in our wiki, including the SCP Foundation, Berserk, the Cthulhu Mythos, Ultrakill, Redo of Healer, Uber, Family Guy, American Dad, Rick and Morty, Hellblazer, Hellraiser, The Boys, Evil Ernie/Lady Death, Transmetropolitan, the Castlevania animated series, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Bleach, Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, Panty & Stocking with Garterbelt, Preacher, Spawn, Drawn Together, the Venture Bros, and many many others. As such it doesn't make any sense to target this verse in particular because it features many characters that are misogynistic rapists, as long as the story is not explicit enough to break our and Fandom's standards.
The fact that you listed all this out of your mind is astonishing.
I extremely strongly agree except for bleach and a fewsnip
Almost everything Antvasima listed is far more tame and has no reason being compared to this.
including the SCP Foundation, Berserk, Redo of Healer, Rick and Morty,
What.To memorize all of this is indeed astonishing. Yes
The fact that Mayuri, who makes Nazi-level experiments on sapient subjects, is presented as one of the good guys combined with the hopeless mirthless thrill-killing amoral power-obsessed dystopian nihilism of the verse.not to derail, but why did you put Bleach there? the worst they have is random fan service.
Nope. All of what I listed is far more morally out there as far as I am concerned, just not usually in a sex-focused manner.No, that is not astonishing at all, I'd say it's just dishonest.
I don't see any reason for Haru to be removed, but comparing it to things like Bleach is beyond me.
Haru follows a prostitute protagonist whose plot heavily focuses on sexual activities. It has a storyline outside of that, but sex is a fundamental part of the series.
Almost everything Antvasima listed is far more tame and has no reason being compared to this.
no one thinks of Mayuri as a good guy. I think a lot of people don't like him except for one quote he has when he was talking with Szayelaporro.The fact that Mayuri is presented as one of the good guys
pretty sure a key message of the series was to find hope when there likely is none, but that's just my interpretation.combined with the hopeless mirthless thrill-killing amoral power-obsessed dystopian nihilism of the verse.
Uuuhh, guys, this is not the thread for that
Anyway, I am not forcing any of you to agree with me, and this is not a thread focused on extensively arguing morality, so we should preferably stop now.
The perfection and scientist role quote, ya. I loved it since it actually is true.no one thinks of Mayuri as a good guy. I think a lot of people don't like him except for one quote he has when he was talking with Szayelaporro.
The fact that you compare Mayuri to an nzst is dishonest to say the least, at the same time it's hilarious that you talk about bleach and stay silent about some disgusting marvel/dc stories that you love so muchThe fact that Mayuri, who makes Nazi-level experiments on sapient subjects, is presented as one of the good guys combined with the hopeless mirthless thrill-killing amoral power-obsessed dystopian nihilism of the verse.
did you forget what he did to the Quincies? regardless, this ain't the place to talk about itThe fact that you compare Mayuri to an nzst is dishonest to say the least, at the same time it's hilarious that you talk about bleach and stay silent about some disgusting marvel/dc stories that you love so much
Oh, hold on, you're mistaken. Ant actually detests DC/Marvel narratives, haha. He opposes both verses. Just because he has knowledge of them or has read them doesn't mean he enjoys them.The fact that you compare Mayuri to an nzst is dishonest to say the least, at the same time it's hilarious that you talk about bleach and stay silent about some disgusting marvel/dc stories that you love so much
Some of the verses he lists as his favorites have some immoral themes in their own right.Oh, hold on, you're mistaken. Ant actually detests DC/Marvel narratives, haha. He opposes both verses. Just because he has knowledge of them or has read them doesn't mean he enjoys them.
I suggested that yesterday. it should be on the page before thisAlright, for the public, this deletion request has been denied twice, don't you think we need some rule now? Because it became tiring.
that's probably a good idea, yeahI prefer like a list of denied suggestions, should be found in the OP.
I find plenty of Marvel/DC stories extremely immoral or amoral. I like many of the classic characters, not remotely all of the stories that many writers have spun around them.The fact that you compare Mayuri to an nzst is dishonest to say the least, at the same time it's hilarious that you talk about bleach and stay silent about some disgusting marvel/dc stories that you love so much
We might need an addition to our discussion rules page at least.
to be honest, I didn't know that even existed. It could probably be something like "Verses Like 'Redo of Healer' and 'JK Haru is a Sex Worker have had extensive debates on where they land on our Acceptable Content Rating Scale, and further discussion of this topic is not allowed" or something like that. I'm not exactly the best rule writer. it could probably list other verses, but I feel like it could get the point across
I prefer like a list of denied suggestions, should be found in the OP.