Potential update for Hajun with the Tumor...

[Yakushimi]

On the page for Hajun under the Masadaverse, the wiki states that Hajun, with the Tumor, that "At full power, Hajun is the most powerful character in the entire Masadaverse. Effortlessly killed Reinhard, Marie and Mercurius, and would have killed Re as well had he even payed attention to the latters' existence. He has a Taikyoku value listed as "Immeasurable" that is constantly rising. Is also immensely superior to his Throne self". Wouldn't this make him, with the Tumor, Tier 0? Theoretically, since he so far transcends everyone else, this would make sense, correct?

 

[ALRF]

Following this thread.

 

[Marquis_Samigina]

Back in time Hajun didn't qualify for High-1A for having plethora of unusual weaknesses to stand upright on that level. Now, since High-1A and 0 been merged into one construct, his chances of becoming Tier 0 is even less than before, i suppose.

Theoretically, since he so far transcends everyone else, this would make sense, correct?

What about Naraku guy from Pantheon? I heard he owns Hajun badly.

 

[ALRF]

Those "weaknesses" did nothing to his state of power. Infinite souls clinging to him thus weakening him? Still the strongest and cannot lose. Being arrogant and narcissit allowing Yato to time stop without having to fear Hajun completing his Law? Yato own law was getting passively eroded by a not giving a shit about him Hajun. The only true weakness was removing Tumor. A feat that can only be done thriugh requirements. Nothing more nothing less. Reminder that Hajun is the same guy who has a "i nuke my entire verse"

Naraka transcending Hajun makes no sense tbh. Gudou Gods can destroy Throne and thus Naraka. The only superiors now are those 5 beings and (supposedly) Naraka (which i just stated how weird it is)

I believe the best option is to wait for Pantheon release. I'd like to remove that note on his profile though as it is a gross misinformation which aren't for the most part

 

[Elizhaa]

I agree with ALRF's points.

 

[Yakushimi]

Yes, I concur with the points made as well. As such, I will wrap this up for the time being to be re-opened at a later date.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Al has a point on the weaknesses but I don't believe even taking those points out would make Hajun a Tier 0. Just an extremely high 1-A (1-A, not the ol' High 1-A we had).

Pantheon, definitely great to talk around when it comes out so we have more and more to discuss.

 

[Yakushimi]

Yes, I do concur. I believe since Dies Irae: Pantheon will be releasing next year on various consoles, someone may close this for the time being.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

I was thinking in a FGO mobile game mindset there, but that works too. ^^;

 

[TonySansNom]

Wouldn't this make him, with the Tumor, Tier 0?

Hell no. He is merely a very strong 1-A, that is all. Not even High 1-A. I don't even think Shinzaverse has a tier 0 because the shinza (throne god) is suposed to be the absolute in the first place (using simple semantic, the throne god would be tier 0; but we know it isn't the case because they aren't in the "absolute infinity" and when I say "absolute", I mean "true infinity" range).

But technically, many "absolute beings" in ficton wouldn't deserve a tier 0 either. Like Kami Tenchi and The One Above All.

(Even using the new definition of Tier 0 which is pretty much High 1-A, these still don't fit the qualifications).

 

[TonySansNom]

Naraka transcending Hajun makes no sense tbh. Gudou Gods can destroy Throne and thus Naraka. The only superiors now are those 5 beings and (supposedly) Naraka (which i just stated how weird it is)

It could simply be (speculation) Naraka before he fused himself with the Throne at the very beginning of all, had a power that could have put Hajun to shame. But after he fused himself with the Throne, instead of feeding Throne his unbound existence (raising it to his plane of existence), he had to "attune" himself to Throne's level (made himself weaker). So, Naraka normally would rape Hajun with a High 1-A level, but Naraka fused with the Throne would merely be baseline 1-A or something.

 

[ALRF]

Best thing to do is wait for Pantheon to give us a full rxaplantion to this

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Following


Offtopic - Would be nice if Dies Irae had a game like those "Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm" games

Reinhard would be such a boss

 

[ALRF]

Dies Irae as a fighting game would be lit

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

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Offtopic - Would be nice if Dies Irae had a game like those "Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm" games

Reinhard would be such a boss

That remind me of a thread I gotta make for Naruto that brings masadaverse in the game :v

 

[Antvasima]

I trust ALRF's sense of judgement regarding removing the note, but even if Hajun is infinitely superior to other tier 0 characters that is not enough to qualify for tier 0.

As for TOAA and Kami Tenchi, I have asked DarkLK to investigate the former via the Tenchi GXP novels, and am also uncertain about the latter. We at least use two statistics keys for TOAA now.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

Best thing to do is wait for Pantheon to give us a full rxaplantion to this

^this all this. But yeah the only weakness was tumor yet it was super specific

 

[TonySansNom]

Best thing to do is wait for Pantheon to give us a full rxaplantion to this

^this all this. But yeah the only weakness was tumor yet it was super specific

Not giving a shit about Ren is the worst thing Hajun could have done. And he did ignore Ren, not even recognizing who he was at all. I'd consider it to be a weakness, a big one even. If he killed Ren on the spot, he would have never been killed in the end because his law would have filled the world and no amount of Naraka's keikaku or Tumor billshit can change that. Because after all, there would remain nothing in existence but those two, and Tumor needs Hajun to live.

 

[ALRF]

False. He knew who Tenma Yato is. Hell he was aware of a lot of shit. It's just he was busy scrapping of the infinite amount of souls attached to him

After all, he was the one who granted Yakou Madara Taikyoku to fight against Tenma Ootake and had his powers (infinite rise in power) given to other fellow Eastern Team to gang up on Tenmas

 

[TonySansNom]

False. He knew who Tenma Yato is. Hell he was aware of a lot of shit. It's just he was busy scrapping of the infinite amount of souls attached to him

From 11:21 to 12:45.

 

[ALRF]

???

 

[TonySansNom]

???

Hajun said Þ¬░ÒüáÒüèÕëì´╝ƒ

To Yato.

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

dare da omae? Þ¬░ i used Gaggle translate which was dare according to it. If i'm not mistaken that means who are you? correct me if i'm wrong still novice

 

[Maxnumb231]

This thread seems to make sense why hes not just SUPER HIGH 1-A

 

[TonySansNom]

dare da omae? Þ¬░ i used Gaggle translate which was dare according to it. If i'm not mistaken that means who are you? correct me if i'm wrong still novice

You are correct.

 

[Maxnumb231]

Bump

 

[GLHF22]

And don't forget that Nyar stomp hajun

 

[TonySansNom]

And don't forget that Nyar stomp haju

Why do you even mention him? What's the point?

And you're talking about Chtulhu mythos Nyarlathotep, right?

And the "real Nyar", not his avatars.

 

[GLHF22]

Absolutely Yes

 

[GLHF22]

Why do you even mention him? What's the point?

If hajun upgraded to Tier 0, entire Outer God must upgraded too

Because its not funny if Tier 1A stomp Tier 0

 

[Antvasima]

Perhaps we should close this thread.

 

[TonySansNom]

Why do you even mention him? What's the point?

If hajun upgraded to Tier 0, entire Outer God must upgraded too

Because its not funny if Tier 1A stomp Tier 0

When you say tier 0, you mean the "new tier 0" (equivalent to old High 1-A) ?? I don't see why Hajun would be deserving of such a high tier to be honest. Being potentially infinite levels in the 1-A tier is fitting enough.

 

[GLHF22]

Just read OP

 

[Antvasima]

He should at least have to transcend the other tier 1-A characters like they transcend tier 10-B mortals. He is not that high up the scale.

 

[GLHF22]

He should at least have to transcend the other tier 1-A characters like they transcend tier 10-B mortals. He is not that high up the scale.

Basically i want to say this

 

[Antvasima]

So should we close this?

 

[GLHF22]

So should we close this?

i agree

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.