Possible Julius Revision (Black Clover)

[Theendzero13]

Why there any Possibly 6-C rating? Its doesn't makes any sense.

Because julius is possible above all the captains in terms of stats therefore possible island level

 

[WrongIdea21]

It's for AP because julius never uses AP.

There no reason even for his durability

Because julius is possible above all the captains in terms of stats therefore possible island level

Its not possible anymore endeed he's above all of the Captains but in term of combat skill. Not AP even Dura.

 

[Theendzero13]

There no reason even for his durability

Its not possible anymore endeed he's above all of the Captains but in term of combat skill. Not AP even Dura.

Yeah the thing is the way the bc power system works he would not even be able to perceive or react to them without being at least relative,that is why it is in possible

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

There no reason even for his durability

Its not possible anymore endeed he's above all of the Captains but in term of combat skill. Not AP even Dura.

No this is wrong, I debunked this already.

 

[WrongIdea21]

Yeah the thing is the way the bc power system works he would not even be able to perceive or react to them without being at least relative,that is why it is in possible

It's a speed scaling wtf

No this is wrong, I debunked this already.

Where, I've never se you debunked any of my argument

 

[Theendzero13]

It's a speed scaling wtf

Where, I've never se you debunked any of my argument

Here is the thing allof their stats including speed come from mana if the speed of his spells match the captains them the potency of his magical bullets or even regular punchs should match the captains power as well, this is how the power system works
Mana : speed : strenght

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

The concept of mana in the BC universe is not linear although

 

[WrongIdea21]

Here is the thing allof their stats including speed come from mana if the speed of his spells match the captains them the potency of his magical bullets or even regular punchs should match the captains power as well, this is how the power system works
Mana : speed : strength

Headcanon, he's never shown that on screen, punching and shoting magical bullet to match the Captains. He's strong because his time magic and even with mana Zone he still bleeding after get hit by Patri.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

Bruh, what you're saying is basically no different than saying "julius was never shown destroying a banana with time magic, therefore he can't destroy a banana with time magic". That's what power scaling exist for, or else everyone would be dependant of their own feats. Just because he didn't show it doesn't mean he can't do it, in this case, all these are feats that are done with a universal power system which julius is a master of basically everything in it, so it's easily assumed that he can do any of those things.

And also other arguments about patry being unable to beat julius while unsealed and stuff.

 

[WrongIdea21]

And also other arguments about patry being unable to beat julius while unsealed and stuff.

He can't even kill weakened Julius, stop using those Arguments.

 

[Theendzero13]

Headcanon, he's never shown that on screen, punching and shoting magical bullet to match the Captains. He's strong because his time magic and even with mana Zone he still bleeding after get hit by Patri.

Randoms can throw magic bullets it is a thing anyone can do actually and anyone can punch, this is just how speed translates into power

 

[WrongIdea21]

Randoms can throw magic bullets it is a thing anyone can do actually and anyone can punch, this is just how speed translates into power

I know random can punch and throw magic bullet but Since Julius never shown we can't used that for any argument that not even write in his profile.

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

He can't even kill weakened Julius, stop using those Arguments.

Doesn't that literally prove that julius is stronger? Bruh wtf am I doing debating this? Stop the downplay.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Why are we scaling attack power with the BC mana system? I don't remember anything about it being a 1:1 and if I'm not mistaken Julius is considerably weak physically

 

[WrongIdea21]

Doesn't that literally prove that julius is stronger? Bruh wtf am I doing debating this? Stop the downplay.

I never said he's not stronger than Patri anyway, he used his time magic to survive, there is different between tanking and surviving via time magic.

 

[Theendzero13]

Why are we scaling attack power with the BC mana system? I don't remember anything about it being a 1:1 and if I'm not mistaken Julius is considerably weak physically

Weak without reinforcment magic, and yeah mana is linear everytime they get a mana boost their stats increase and if you have too much more mana you can tank no damage from attacks etc

 

[WrongIdea21]

Weak without reinforcment magic, and yeah mana is linear everytime they get a mana boost their stats increase and if you have too much more mana you can tank no damage from attacks etc

Julius bleeding when he took Patir's casual slash even with mana zone there no point he scales to durability

 

[Theendzero13]

Julius bleeding when he took Patir's casual slash even with mana zone there no point he scales to durability

What do you mean ? julius taking damage to patri ain't an anti-feat that version of patri scales above any BOS captain

 

[GuildZero]

To make everyone happy

"Unknown, possibly 6-C"?

Instead of possibly it should be likely since he is most likely has ap on the captains level but just does not have the feats to put him their in terms of ap

 

[CloverDragon03]

Julius bleeding when he took Patir's casual slash even with mana zone there no point he scales to durability

That wasn't a casual attack, first of all, and Julius was just fine despite bleeding from it.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Instead of possibly it should be likely since he is most likely has ap on the captains level but just does not have the feats to put him their in terms of ap

If we were doing captain scaling he'd be possibly Low 6-B

The Unknown, possibly 6-C rating is fine. I've already mentioned how Julius' sheer magic power made Patry nervous despite him having his Unsealed power. That should be enough at least for a possibly 6-C rating.

 

[WrongIdea21]

What do you mean ? julius taking damage to patri ain't an anti-feat that version of patri scales above any BOS captain

It's anti feats as well, he doesn't tank he bleed

That wasn't a casual attack, first of all, and Julius was just fine despite bleeding from it.

Bleeding doesn't fine, we don't need to kill Someone to break through its durability.

 

[Nierre]

Yep, that's how possibly works. I agree.

 

[CloverDragon03]

Bleeding doesn't fine, we don't need to kill Someone to break through its durability.

Remember that he was holding back

And are you going to address my other point?

 

[WrongIdea21]

Remember that he was holding back

And are you going to address my other point?

Holding back to not going to kill Patri with EE? Yes.

 

[Theendzero13]

It's anti feats as well, he doesn't tank he bleed

Bleeding doesn't fine, we don't need to kill Someone to break through its durability.

Taking damage from someone on his level ain't an anti-feat, simple as that

 

[WrongIdea21]

Taking damage from someone on his level ain't an anti-feat, simple as that

It's not how tanking works, anyway Julius far Stronger than Patri but in term his combat skill and haxes.

 

[GuildZero]

If we were doing captain scaling he'd be possibly Low 6-B

The Unknown, possibly 6-C rating is fine. I've already mentioned how Julius' sheer magic power made Patry nervous despite him having his Unsealed power. That should be enough at least for a possibly 6-C rating.

I know the thing is it is more likely that julius scales to captains. The thing is we just don't have feats to say so. It fits julius situation better. But possibly is also fine

 

[CloverDragon03]

It's not how tanking works, anyway Julius far Stronger than Patri but in term his combat skill and haxes.

He uses his magic to hold up and toss rubble at Patry. That's AP since he's not attacking with his Time Magic itself

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

He uses his magic to hold up and toss rubble at Patry. That's AP since he's not attacking with his Time Magic itself

That's AP Based, Julius can stay as he is then, I just needed someone to prove he use some version of Raw Attack Power

 

[WrongIdea21]

He uses his magic to hold up and toss rubble at Patry. That's AP since he's not attacking with his Time Magic itself

Why you used anime? Because there no evidence in the manga, isn't? Adding scenes? Lmao

 

[Mageman460]

He uses his magic to hold up and toss rubble at Patry. That's AP since he's not attacking with his Time Magic itself

Sadly, that's anime only. But once again, he uses a magic blast to obliterate one of Patry's spells in the last page of chapter 143. Sorry, can't get a scan.

 

[Theendzero13]

It's not how tanking works, anyway Julius far Stronger than Patri but in term his combat skill and haxes.

The point is that taking damage to patri ain't an anti-feat cuz patri is very strong himself

 

[GuildZero]

He uses his magic to hold up and toss rubble at Patry. That's AP since he's not attacking with his Time Magic itself

Anime only feat

 

[WrongIdea21]

The point is that taking damage to patri ain't an anti-feat cuz patri is very strong himself

Your bias argument proof nothing. I'm not going to argue circular topic.

 

[Theendzero13]

Your bias argument proof nothing. I'm not going to argue circular topic.

Sorry but how am i biased here?

 

[CloverDragon03]

Sadly, that's anime only. But once again, he uses a magic blast to obliterate one of Patry's spells in the last page of chapter 143. Sorry, can't get a scan.

Anime material in Black Clover is canon, an example being the anime-only episodes between the Elf and Spade arcs.

 

[GuildZero]

Anime material in Black Clover is canon, an example being the anime-only episodes between the Elf and Spade arcs.

I thought these episodes were the only ones considered canon

 

[CloverDragon03]

Sadly, that's anime only. But once again, he uses a magic blast to obliterate one of Patry's spells in the last page of chapter 143. Sorry, can't get a scan.

I think you mean this

 

[GuildZero]

I think you mean this

Can that be used for ap?