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Don't try and play this burden of proof hot potato with me. I'm asking for your proof, so I'd like for you to provide it. Otherwise, your argument doesn't hold up
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Black Clover : FTL+ again
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AstaDragon123
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Even though Light magic doesn't have a speed feat during Spade saga or Final saga, it doesn't mean it's slower than other magic.
So If so, could you please send scans that say "Star magic is faster than Light magic Or Star magic is as fast as Light magic".Can you come? Also in this feat, Julius says "LIGHT MAGIC IS THE FASTEST MAGIC THERE IS". Repeat,"FASTEST MAGIC THERE IS" Does any other magic in the Spade saga or Final saga mention speed like Light magic? Well, no.
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Proof?
I don't need to entertain your attempts to shift the burden of proof onto me. This just tells me you lack the evidence
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If so, where's your proof?
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AstaDragon123
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In summary, you just can't find proof?
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I love how I asked for proof and you still have yet to provide it so you instead try to deflect onto me. Amazing debate tactic
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I asked you for proof too but you said "I don't need to entertain your attempts to shift the burden of proof onto me" Amazing debate tactic.
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Yes, when someone asks you for proof, you don't hide from it and try to shift the burden of proof away. Nothing I did was wrong
If you don't wish to provide proof for your claims, I'll simply defer to the staff rather than entertaining this meaningless back and forth. The only thing I'll say is that the series up until the Elf Arc made a point to hammer in how Light Magic is considered the fastest magic there is, anytime Light Magic is brought up. In the Spade and Final Sagas, this just doesn't exist anymore. That tells me all I need to know, and that getting such a specific statement is completely unnecessary.
If you don't wish to provide proof for your claims, I'll simply defer to the staff rather than entertaining this meaningless back and forth. The only thing I'll say is that the series up until the Elf Arc made a point to hammer in how Light Magic is considered the fastest magic there is, anytime Light Magic is brought up. In the Spade and Final Sagas, this just doesn't exist anymore. That tells me all I need to know, and that getting such a specific statement is completely unnecessary.
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Me too, I just ask for proof. If you don't give proof, it's not my fault.
A feat that says that other magic in Spade saga or Final saga is faster than Light magic or as fast as Light magic. There isn't any.
A feat that says that other magic in Spade saga or Final saga is faster than Light magic or as fast as Light magic. There isn't any.
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For the last time, what I'm trying to say is that you don't need a specific statement like that. The lack of such statements despite their prevalence earlier is incredibly telling of the speed progression of the story.
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you don't need scans saying yuno's star magic is faster than light magic coz well he has feats of being faster than light magic. The point is pre demon light magic, light magic was treated as having the ultimate speed so it would not make sense narratively for people to be tens of times faster than the ultimate speed. Now after demon light magic the world of ftl and above was opened up. Light magic was no longer the fastest and this now made room for it to be easily acceptable that people training beyond that point could be ftl or ftl+ or even mftl. All they need are feats showcasing that. Yuno has done such and so he doesn't require a statement like "star magic is as fast as light magic"
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Ah, like this, if you upgrade Nozel cals FTL+ when fighting demonic light magic users, there won't be any problem, right?
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Bump
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Keep fighting, pookie
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I disagree FRA, Clover's arguments hold oceans more credibility than the arguments in support for the CRT
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Can you tell me how my arguments are less convincing than his? Please be specific.
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How about everything from when he first commented to when he stopped due to a repeted use of a Burden of Proof Fallacy?
Ooh ooh, how about the fact you think blocking something REQUIRES you to be on equal terms of speed with it?
This is a case of your opponent had the better and more solid arguments and thus I agree with them.
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Didn't you read anything I wrote in this thread?
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Yes. and I still disagree with you because I thoroughly read the full thread.
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Bump
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You have to wait 24 hours from the last message posted before you can bump a thread
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Sorry.
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I will not go into a debate with you that will result in it going circular and you committing at least another couple fallacies.
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So you tell me what a couple of 2-3 mistakes I made.
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Why are you fishing without bait? Do you want every fish to just avoid your hook?
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I don't understand what you want to convey.
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I just told you I don't want to debate you, and that's primarily because I did not like what I saw in the rest of the thread
This is you trying to bait me into a debate anyway.
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Bump.
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Bump
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Agreed with this post.
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Have you read all 110 comments in this thread?
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You should be able to recognise when something is 100% not going to go your way. Would be better you just request this thread closed, go over the arguments again and wait in like 2 months time you reformulate your points and try to get this upgrade coz trust me with the number of mod disagreements here there is no hope for this thread. And asking mods if they read the thread well before giving their input will rub off most times as insulting their intelligence
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Ok
1.I apologize if my comments made others uncomfortable. Or is it an insult to his intelligence.
2.I won't close this trade until someone with information convinces me I'm wrong. But now no one can make me think I'm wrong.
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If a revision is rejected by the staff, it's not your decision whether or not the thread stays open
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As I said, go with my thoughts.
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To the staff disagree, I got nothing and that's the end of it. I just need a clear explanation.
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I agree
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Bump.
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