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Pokémon: Nearly Everything is Canon

The main problem I have with this is how will we put in the stats in here, since a version of mewtwo in the anime can turn mega by herself, and another version of mewtwo in the journey's anime is called the strongest pokemon by ash (who knows about the creation trio), and rainbow rocket implies that version of mega mewtwo scales above members of the CT, yet the mewtwo in the manga was getting beaten by deoxy's and zygarde. So do we do what deathbattle does and do a soft composite and make a "peak" version of that pokemon? Or do we seperate profiles based on their medium, but crossover some stuff between profiles
Many of these will still be an alternate version of Mewtwo. Also, the Mewtwo owned by Rainbow Rocket Giovanni has been vigorously trained for years by the evil tyrant.
 
Rainbow Rocket's Mewtwo should either have their own page or key since they are canonically from an alternate universe
 
Rainbow Rocket's Mewtwo should either have their own page or key since they are canonically from an alternate universe
so should anime mewtwo, since it's base form is considered the strongest pokemon (only one shown to mega evolve is the one from the black and white movie)
 
Because unique abilities
That shouldn’t really matter. Conquest should absolutely be canon and be in the multiverse, since not only does it acknowledge the existence of the main games (Aka, trainers catching Pokémon with poke balls in other faraway regions), but Arceus is also still considered the god who created everything in Conquest, meaning the Conquest world is something created by Arceus directly, so it’s apart of the main canon, follows the source material, lore and everything else.
 
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Are there any major points of contention that need to be addressed before I give my seal of approval?

I have previously expressed my displeasure of the canon split previously proposed and pushed through, and have agreed with the points made in the doc itself, but after six pages of discussion that I have not read up until this point, I don't know if there's anything that needs addressing before I can give my own thumbs-up.
 
Are there any major points of contention that need to be addressed before I give my seal of approval?

I have previously expressed my displeasure of the canon split previously proposed and pushed through, and have agreed with the points made in the doc itself, but after six pages of discussion that I have not read up until this point, I don't know if there's anything that needs addressing before I can give my own thumbs-up.
Not really imo
 
Then support is what I will give for this one.

This madness has gone on long enough.
 
This makes it 4-2
Agree (Propellus, DDM, Planck, Starter_)
Disagree (Saman, Everything12)

Additionally 2 agrees from calc members (Clover and Psycho)

And overhwelming agreement from members with like 1-2 disagreements
 
There’s probably not much else to say that hasn’t been already said, but since I’ve been busy and tend to procrastinate to an extent, I feel that I should mention this point regarding the scaling for legendaries in particular

One of, if not, the main reason for legendaries having been scaled the way they were prior to the split is because the vast majority of them either don’t have anti feats to conflict with the tiers they got, or they don’t have suggested limits from the feats they have displayed in order to argue against scaling.

In other words, their existing feats are either casual (Ex: The Life Trio or Light Trio) or they have no anti feats to go against receiving scaling. Especially since many legendaries tiers are based more on scaling in the first place.

So unless we go with the species pages suggestion that was brought up earlier, I don’t see the issue with bringing back how legendaries were scaled before, with minor alterations if anything.
 
Agree: @Starter_Pack, @SamanPatou (except for legendaries if the feats only happen in one piece of media), @Planck69

Disagree: @Everything12

It seems we probably should polish things with Everything12 and SamanPatou first from what I'm looking.
Okay. Someone wanna inform them that their input specifically (Not that of another stafff, theirs.) is needed for this to make progress so that we can clear up the queue of CRTs for this verse, please?

We should review their stances & see what we can do, & see if those stances shouldn't be taken in place of those of other knowledgeable members.
 
I know you want to do your own thread really badly but yes this is important to do, let's not force a conclusion yeah?
Admittedly this IS why voting exists. Idk about Saman but Everything never really came back to elaborate, he just disagreed simply there and then. Sometimes disagreements are hard to switch to agreements in which case we should work with what we have.
 
Nah. While every piece of media generally follows what the core games set to some extent, they are still given enough room to give their own take on it.
I am honestly not sure how to throughly tackle this issue, as I fear our Pokemon pages will once again turn into a chaotic and messy cluster of sparse information wildly taken from every source possible, instead of trying to keep a linear coherence.
While a little arbitrary, I might see as reasonable to treat everything unrelated to mainline games as support as long as they don't meet major contradiciton, but while also staying quite careful to not restore the former composites.
Apparently, we should polish things over with you guys, given you're Staff & don't (completely) agree. Therefore, your input is again needed.
According to this, anyway:
Agree: @Starter_Pack, @SamanPatou (except for legendaries if the feats only happen in one piece of media), @Planck69

Disagree: @Everything12

It seems we probably should polish things with Everything12 and SamanPatou first from what I'm looking.
(Hopefully quoting their posts alerts them.)
 
There’s probably not much else to say that hasn’t been already said, but since I’ve been busy and tend to procrastinate to an extent, I feel that I should mention this point regarding the scaling for legendaries in particular

One of, if not, the main reason for legendaries having been scaled the way they were prior to the split is because the vast majority of them either don’t have anti feats to conflict with the tiers they got, or they don’t have suggested limits from the feats they have displayed in order to argue against scaling.

In other words, their existing feats are either casual (Ex: The Life Trio or Light Trio) or they have no anti feats to go against receiving scaling. Especially since many legendaries tiers are based more on scaling in the first place.

So unless we go with the species pages suggestion that was brought up earlier, I don’t see the issue with bringing back how legendaries were scaled before, with minor alterations if anything.
eh I don't agree necrozma anime only achieves star level feats in its ultra form in manga and game I suppose they scale but anime No
 
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