...What? Akechi thought that Joker would've been killed by a regular gun. He even took the time to gloat, which, had that been the real Joker, would've given him plenty of time to summon his Persona. Akechi, as a Persona user, should know the limits of what a Persona user can do, so he'd know if it was a matter of just "activating your Persona".
Those who get affected would be the P4/P5 casts. Maruki cannot actively summon his persona but Azatoth can still utilize his power to rewrite people's cognition from his realm.
Hmm Maruki's persona appears for real when mementos is merged right?
Yeah Maruki couldn't fully fuse with him until he was exposed to the spiritual world.
Hmm interresting, while it can be some weird memory from me, but didnt the evoker have plume of dusk to allow the summoning to happen?
The plume of dusk happens during the events of Arena. Both Mitsu and Akihiko discuss that they trained their persona in between the time since the end of P3 and the events of Arena which implies they are capable of summoning their persona outside the dark hour/tartarus, and the events of Arena.
Its just going to be needed Scans for P3 not being affected by OP's proposal.
Pretty sure he's just messing around.
That's Joker in reality whose lethal to those. Personas only activate in battle even if they're not summoned via exp persona stats. The cast has already shown tanking attacks from shadows, rulers, and gods. If they were lethal, they would've died immediately due to AP and speed. This is downplay.
I have to scour through P4 for the P3 stuff, but just to be clear, awakening one's persona in reality is an application of human cognition (more specifically reactive evolution) that was displayed by Baofu, and the P2 cast when they were kids, in addition to it being a theme in P3, and P5 showing us humans can use cognition in the real world (bringing back Mona and arguably Akechi) in addition to the cast awakening their persona upon threat of death, or extreme trauma.
He 100% is he absolutely dwarfs ryuji in size and mass. He also has solid wall+ levels feats I can post later. The suit of armor he is wearing alone is a rodiculous amount of weight, that + his size + the size of the sword all being concentrated at the end of the hilt to ryuji’s jaw should be well enough for wall level. Even mid sized bears scale to that.
I mean he is this big. Scaling just the armor he is in would be a hell of a mass given his size.
Medieval plate armor was 15-25 kg, assuming that guy's 4 meters tall we get 25 x 2.25^3 = 284.76 kg, which isn't too high. GPE would be 5532.84 Joules, 9-C. Admittedly it could be 5 meters or something but either way, pretty far from 9-B
You have to remember 9-C is deceptively wide and even peak human attacks are 1/5th of the way to 9-B. I don't deny that it's a possibility but by itself, considering Ryuji is clearly way inferior to the armor, I wouldn't make him 9-B at all.
4 meters is kinda of off as Joker who is almost 2 meters is about knee height to the thing. Also not accounting for the shadows actual mass which must sustain the weight of the armor.
He's WHAT? He's clearly average height, hell, this hopefully height chart that appears to be from the artbook I just found says the same too.
I mean, they're just a goopy blob until they are forced to take a form, right? I doubt they'd weigh too much.
Oh it's absolutely way higher and I'm not saying it isn't 9-B, I'm just saying it'd be better not to claim it is until a calc is made.
Lol sorry American here my mental translation of a meter is 3ft and since Joker is 5’10 I used 6ft for two meters. Either way joker himself is dwarfed by it in the scan.
Done-zo. Looks like the feat is even better than calced, although I am slightly iffy on the throwing speed used.
Ah, no problem.
I could but I am kinda busy these days so idk. If you're willing to wait I can eventually give it a look, but if you want it to be speedy you're better off asking someone else.
Well the throw speed is actually conservative. It uses the speed of a tennis ball thrown from rest horizontally using the elbow and arm as opposed to a straight up overhand throw and the teacher sort of sidearms it at joker.
My issue is mostly that I personally find it harder to throw something that small compared to a ball, but eh, it's probably not that big of a deal
Darnit, couldn't weasel my way outta this one so easily
It is literally stated and shown. Not sure what else you want regarding the Makoto/Ryuji scene.
Not really, that is just a high end application of the ability as stated on the powers' page itself.
Not sure what you mean given that it is a completely different person describing their experience in meeting Makoto and Ryuji who needed to get said item from him. Nor am I sure why you'd try and discredit Ryuji is who is like in the select few of humans who actually know about the cognitive world and supernatural powers, if it were him who'd said it.
