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Overlord: Ainz's Tier

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While we are waiting on that.

As someone who isn't really knowledgable on how fast someone would have to be for certain things to happen. How fast would shalltear have to atleast be here?

Moving with a speed which put gales to shame, Shalltear charged, wreathed in bloodlust. The scorched ground exploded beneath her feet with every step she took. Clementine's assaults were swift, but Shalltear's speed was in a class of her own.
 
Until then can the changes be made?

Ainz and shalltear should changed back to 6-C and everyone who is hypersonic should be downgraded to supersonic+.

If the city level statements are enough for the maids to get an uprade then we should put them at 7-B and if not we should just put them at 8-C sense there all ridiculously stronger than brain who is 9-A.
 
Making the ground explode with the force of your kick is more a strength feat than a speed one. Gale winds can only be like 24 m/s, so that's not too insane.
 
Seems like that supersonic+ feat is the best we have for now.

Question, how fast would you need to move to leave a visible trail of heat behined you/?
 
Not really sure. You catch on fire at Mach 5, so probably like Mach 3 or something. Supersonic, to be sure.
 
TheOneBelowAll123 said:
Seems like that supersonic+ feat is the best we have for now.
Question, how fast would you need to move to leave a visible trail of heat behined you/?
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According to this you would need to cycle at 0.63 times the speed of sound to get the air to body temperature and at mach 2 an airplane could get surface temperatures of around 100┬░C (At lower air pressure and very cold air).

I would guess the correct answer for the question lies somewhere inbetween that.
 
Reinhardthrowhisspear directly responded to me on his page.

""By the time you noticed that something flashed, your neck will be on the floor - that's how fast it is."

Thats what he says what I quoted is translated into. Which just sounds like atleast a faster than you can perceive feat, possibly higher but we don't know. Like you'll finally notice the flash but by then your head will already have been on the ground. So impressive considering your head will have had to head the floor by then, but definently not FTL.

I'll still post the full raw japanese description though.
 
This is probably how the profiles should be.

Ainz: At least Small Building level+ physically via this calc , likely higher. Varies with low tier spells, up to Island level with high tier spells Unknow with Wish Upon A Star. Island level physically with Perfect Warrior. Can ignore conventional durability in many ways

Shalltear: At least Island level (Fought a decent time against Ainz and forced him to use his Trump Card. Also one of the strongest guardians)

Pleiades: At least Building level (Vastly stronger than Brain Unglaus), possibly City level (Comparable to Evileye who stated her trump card was enough to destroy an entire city, stronger than frost dragons like Olasird'arc Haylilyal whose fight with Mianatalon Fuviness resulted in the destruction of a dwarven city )

As for speed, everyone who is hypesonic should be downgraded to supersonic+ sense they scale to albedos feat.
 
Volume 3 Godflash Speed Quote
What a pain in the ass. What I downloaded was the raw but I thought it was the digital version so I could freaking word find. Regardless I was able to find it.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
Why Unknow with Wish Upon A Star? Reality Warping is hax and not AP.
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Because WUAS is a spell that grants wishes, for all we know ainz could use it to wish the entire world out of existance but sense we dont know what its limitations are it should stay at Unknown.
 
It would be a level of power the ring has, though. If someone wishes for the world to be destroyed and the ring destroys the planet, that's AP.
 
I absolutely know that, if but the ring is able to literally destroy the planet, it would have AP. We have no idea what it can destroy, if anything, or how it does it, therefore Unknown. However it is possible that Wish Upon a Star can cause quantifiable damage and because of that it should have a tier, even if unknown.
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
The ring achieves it through Reality warping, so the planet would just disapear insead of being destroyed.
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A small peve, Ainz knows the spell personally, he just uses the ring so he doesn't have to use XP, he can cast it without the ring though just at a XP cost.
 
The super tier spell imbued within the ring, ÒÇîWish Upon A StarÒÇì, was one which consumed a percentage of one's XP bar to randomly generate an option for a wish. In other words, by spending ten percent of one's XP bar, one could make one choice. By spending fifty percent, one could pick from five choices.

There were many choices that could be made for a wish; according to online walkthroughs, there were over two hundred of them. In addition, some wishes were more common than others; thus this was a dreadful spell which many feared would deplete their XP for nothing.

Even in YGGDRASIL where gaining levels was easy, one would still need a lot of XP to cast it, given that a magic caster needed to be level ninety five before learning this super tier spell. Thus, many people hesitated over whether or not to gamble their XP on this sort of thing.

He knows the spell and doesn't need the ring to cast it, he only uses the ring so he doesn't use XP. And when he came into the new world it evovled into a spell that could do literally anything (apparently) except to World Item effects.
 
WUAS should remain at unknown.

We should also start making the changes

Ainz: At least Small Building level+ physically via this calc , likely higher. Varies with low tier spells, up to Island level with high tier spells Unknow with Wish Upon A Star. Island level physically with Perfect Warrior. Can ignore conventional durability in many ways

Shalltear: At least Island level (Fought a decent time against Ainz and forced him to use his Trump Card. Also one of the strongest guardians)

Pleiades: At least Building level (Vastly stronger than Brain Unglaus), possibly City level (Comparable to Evileye who stated her trump card was enough to destroy an entire city, stronger than frost dragons like Olasird'arc Haylilyal whose fight with Mianatalon Fuviness resulted in the destruction of a dwarven city )

As for speed, everyone who is hypesonic should be downgraded to supersonic+ sense they scale to albedos feat.

What do you guys think, is this ok?
 
DragonEmperor23 said:
I mean they both do the same thing.
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Which is why I said "A small peve"

There is a difference though, he can cast it with or without the ring.
 
TheOneBelowAll123 said:
What do you guys think, is this ok?
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Looks fine to me.

Only thing is the battle maids part, its kind of a jump from building to possibly city. Is that ok?
 
So if everyone is ready to make the changes, I can start carrying them out.
 
Should the Island level not be limited to Super Tier spells as that was what is even getting him the tier? Plus they are also noted to be far beyond even rank 10s. PW also shouldn't be Island since that only makes him a level 100 warrior which definitely don't swing around super tier level attacks all the time. If they did then no one would bother playing casters or even target ones about to cast super tier if pretty much everyone can do it with casual attacks.
 
We could limit him to 6-C with Super tiers. He'd still be "At least 7-B" normally for insanely passing Evileye.
 
Hmm, that is true. But she was only mildly wounded. We shouldn't backwards scale, so "At least" would probably cover that.
 
Yobobojojo said:
I mean, he harmed Shalltear, who couldn't be one shot with Super Tier spells
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I know but he also got scratched by Razor Edge so ...

Plus weren't they literally measuring each others HP and MP throughout that fight? Game mechanics still seem to be involved to a good extent.
 
Assaltwaffle said:
Hmm, that is true. But she was only mildly wounded. We shouldn't backwards scale, so "At least" would probably cover that.
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She was pretty hurt
 
I know but he also got scratched by Razor Edge so ...

Plus weren't they literally measuring each others HP and MP throughout that fight? Game mechanics still seem to be involved to a good extent.

Game Mechanics do not exist in oVerlord anymore tho
 
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