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Overlord: Ainz's Tier

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Old and poorly maintained profiles may have such things. If you ever see a tier "via hax" report it.
 
We give tiers to hax that starts affecting whole universes, like EEing a spacetime continuum.

(Relative) Smallscale hax like that shouldn't be given a tier.
 
But things like Death hax will never have a tier. It's different than destructive hax abilities like EE.
 
Not one of those "country busting" quotes are remotely country busting. they can destroy it overtime since they are nigh unstoppable. hence every quote says "we" not "I"

I doubt I can change your minds though, considering you accept making clouds as proof they can bust islands.
 
Durability ignoring hax suddenly receiving a tier based on its range growing seems like a double standard.

So one shotting a 4-A with dura negation is still hax, but when it's 3-A it's suddenly AP via EE?
 
Kepekley23 said:
So one shotting a 4-A with dura negation is still hax, but when it's 3-A it's suddenly AP via EE?
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I was referring to Low 2-C, actually.

At that point you wouldn't really distinguish between hax and AP if the results both end in a space-time continuum ceasing to exist. Plus at that point you can't really apply stuff like energy to begin with as you start hitting degrees of infinity.
 
KuuIchigo said:
Not one of those "country busting" quotes are remotely country busting. they can destroy it overtime since they are nigh unstoppable. hence every quote says "we" not "I"

I doubt I can change your minds though, considering you accept making clouds as proof they can bust islands.
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Not the time man. Besides, that's been debunked multiple times.
 
@Kuulchigo

That's why I am OK with making it "possibly higher" instead of just outright country level. However it can be deduced that, with the other feats of the verse, such a toer isn't implausible.

Also if you have a problem with a cloud feat explain why. You may convince people more than just saying what boils down to "you're all stupid".
 
Anyway, IMO, possibly country level is okay. There's a very specific wording used when talking about doing it overtime, like the death knights, and Landfall specifically got her name for doing a country bust in one go.
 
Not a single feat performed by Ainz or Shalltear while they tried to murder each other even approached this, and not a single statment said they could do it in one shot. All the statements get you is eventual destruction of a country which is unquantifiable.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Not a single feat performed by Ainz or Shalltear while they tried to murder each other even approached this, and not a single statment said they could do it in one shot. All the statements get you is eventual destruction of a country which is unquantifiable.
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I literally just mentioned Landfall, who's explicitly a special case.
 
Sigurd Snake in The Eye said:
Because it's ridiculously vague,and each of those links say "we" it isn't even a possibility,all they did was invade the country there was no busting going on.
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@Yobo

He has.
 
Yobobojojo said:
Anyway, IMO, possibly country level is okay. There's a very specific wording used when talking about doing it overtime, like the death knights, and Landfall specifically got her name for doing a country bust in one go.
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This is explicitly treated by the Ln as a actual feat, and is considered relatively impressive, despite Death Knights doing the same, implying it's not over time.
 
Evidence for 6-B:

1. Non-offensive spell at 6-C

2. Landfall existing

3. Evileye, who is hilariously weak compared to Ainz, can city bust.

Evidence against

1. Could be done over time

2. Could be done with multiple people

I think it is OK to add at least a "possibly higher" to Ainz.
 
Landfall destroyed a kingdom which we don't even have an estimation for the size and was also not stated to have obliterated the entirety of it in one attack. She also hasn't shown the ability to do anything close to this while getting wrecked by the maids. Outlier at best.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Landfall destroyed a kingdom which we don't even have an estimation for the size and was also not stated to have obliterated the entirety of it in one attack. She also hasn't shown the ability to do anything close to this while getting wrecked by the maids. Outlier at best.
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Considering her fighting few opponents for quite a while, that's to be expected. (Also thanks for actually making a argument. Not everyone does.)
 
This is basically the exact situation in which we can implement the "possibly" prefix. Statements suggesting something but that lack the details on how it would be done, therefore making it hard t determine if it would fit into that tier or not.
 
So, for Ainz he would be "6-C, possibly higher". Is this OK?

As for speed, he would be whatever that Albedo calc comes to with a minimum at Supersonic.
 
There are a lot of other things that should also be taken into acount like the fact that albedo didnt just cross a distance but also casted two spells in quick succesion to reflect the iron ball.

Nigun and the rest of the sunlight scripture should also be faster than zanberu who has a supersonic feat but they still couldnt see albedo.
 
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