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Overlord: Ainz's Tier

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Oh yeah .... stupid special snowflake sword. The game mechanics part is still valid though.

XP, HP, MP, levels etc. A lot of this stuff is "game mechanics" and still valid in the New World so it clearly isn't all gone.
 
@Yobobojojo

Was she hurt that much until he used Perfect Warrior? He burned her first life with The Goal of All Life is Death + Cry of the Banshee and then used Perfect Warrior to drain her to the point that Fallen Down could kill. Maybe only Perfect Warrior could scale?
 
Game mechanics are game mechanics regardless of what world you are in. If it works the same in a game as it does irl then why would it be treated differently?
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Game mechanics are game mechanics regardless of what world you are in. If it works the same in a game as it does irl then why would it be treated differently?
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Because then it's not because of the game, obviously
 
Yes, he did

There was the sound of sizzling, as though someone had thrown a burning torch into water. The spell which surpassed the very definition of tiers went off — and it looked as though the sun had risen on the land, dying everything in his field of view a brilliant white. The exothermic conflagration generated a rapidly-expanding wave of heat, which greedily consumed everything within its radius. This hell of a vision lasted only five seconds, but it felt dozens of times longer than that. Eventually, the brilliant white world disappeared. In the wake of the vanishing pulse of superhot energy was a large circular area — vastly different from before. Nothing outside the area of effect was affected. The trees were still trees, the earth was as full of vitality as the forest, and the forest itself was untouched — an extremely normal world. In contrast, the area within the circular area was charred black, converted into a dead zone of jaw-dropping proportions. The awe-inspiring temperatures had consumed all the vegetation in the area, leaving only a few carbonized tree stumps. There were several vitrified areas on the ground which were still emitting smoke. Standing beyond the bounds of that world which permitted no survivors, Ainz felt a dreadful presence washing out from within. It came from the only person who remained within that area. Nothing living could have survived that fatal heat. "Kakahaaah~ Kahaaaah~" That strange sound, accompanied by what seemed to be a gnashing of teeth, filtered into Ainz's ears. He turned to look at its source, and saw a point of red amidst a world scorched black. He saw Shalltear with wisps of smoke trailing off her body, and a look on her face which seemed to say, "not enough gun." Her crimson pupils, filled with hostility and bloodlust, focused on Ainz's body. "Ainz-samaaaa! That really hurt!"

Next

She was still flying back from the force of the explosion when Ainz hurled a black sphere after her. It was a spinning vortex of hyper-intensified gravity that could significantly damage a target, even one of Shalltear's level.

Then

As Ainz followed up with another spell, massive ribs erupted from the earth and closed in on Shalltear like a bear trap. The sharp points of white bone bit deeply into Shalltear's body.
 
If the question is if regular spells by Ainz damaged shalltear a good bit its a yes. The only reason she could sustain for so long was because of her life draining lance, don't ask me how that works on undead though.

That's Ainz-sama for you… he's far superior to me in spell battle, be it in attack or defense. I used several holy-element spells in a row, but Ainz-sama took a lot less HP damage than me. Still, I also made him burn a lot of MP too.
 
^With that logic, everyone who survived his magic gets 6-C. Island level Pleiades everybody.

One also needs to take into account both of them being decked out in Divine gear which makes a huge difference for their durability, AP, resistances etc. Jugger also has a point with the Spuit Lance draining his health, they basically spent the battle doing chip damage to each other.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
^With that logic, everyone who survived his magic gets 6-C. Island level Pleiades everybody.

One also needs to take into account both of them being decked out in Divine gear which makes a huge difference for their durability, AP, resistances etc. Jugger also has a point with the Spuit Lance draining his health, they basically spent the battle doing chip damage to each other.
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It was literally said his armor was weaker. He only used it for the fire resistance
 
Wasn't it just a robe? He tricked her into thinking he amped his firw resistance by not reacting to it so she would just give up on those spells since they would be a waste of MP. The divine gear I was reffering to was Touch Me's armor.
 
AnonymousBlank said:
Wasn't it just a robe? He tricked her into thinking he amped his firw resistance by not reacting to it so she would just give up on those spells since they would be a waste of MP. The divine gear I was reffering to was Touch Me's armor.
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That makes it even less durable
 
Well yeah, I know. He only had to tank one fire attack from her though.

Also, if all of his spells are 6-C, what is even the point of using the higher tier stuff when the lower tiers do pretty much the same thing but for less MP?
 
Jugger's point with the lance was that he would have killed her with these spells if it weren't for the fact that she could life drain him.

Also weren't most of the spells against Shaltear higher tiered spells some with maximize magic aplied? It's not like all his spells would scale, but at lleast his "normal" high tier spells should.
 
Indeed, 7th-9th tier would be these type of spells, which I mean to Ainz/Guardians is kind of normal spells to them. Also keep in mind a fireball from Ainz compared to one to Fluder is going to be hell one hell of a difference. Innately much more powerful from Ainz but he can also apply Magic Modifiers on top of that. Probably won't do really anything to guardians but anything in the new world would get eviserated besides perhaps Platinum Dragon Lord and some other new world outliers.
 
Another is Teleportation, its Hundreds of kilometers, possibly planetary for range.

Ainz regularly uses teleportation from the Holy Kingdom to Nazarick which is hundreds of kilometers apart. She has the same teleportation as Shalltear and Ainz.
 
So, in summary:

The top tiers are 6-C due to the calculations of Ainz's non-combatative super-tier spell Creation, Shalltear not getting one-shot by Ainz's combatative super-tier spell Fallen Dow (which should be just as potent in combat, if not even more so as it's designed for combat), and Ainz being able to damage Shalltear with his high tier spells?
 
@Jugger

Does she have Teleportation? We've never seen her use Greater Teleportation and she needed the Ring of Ainz Ooal Goan to do it in the Tomb.
 
Assaltwaffle said:
@Jugger
Does she have Teleportation? We've never seen her use Greater Teleportation and she needed the Ring of Ainz Ooal Goan to do it in the Tomb.
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She needs the ring because without it, Nazarick disrupts teleportation from all without the ring.
 
I don't think we know for sure, we don't really know that much about her specific abilites. Let me scour through volumes 9-10. There are some situations in which she would have used it to travel I think.
 
"Remain alert and do not be careless. If you feel there is danger, retreat immediately. Do you have any teleportation items? Some of them need time to take effect, so does yours work immediately? Some enemies can also impede teleportation before attacking, have you thought of a way to deal with them? There might also be enemies who distract you with bait before ambushing you. Don't be fooled by your enemies' strength, alright? Although I've heard you've gone through combat training in order to improve your flexibility, you still need to study up a bit more. In addition―"

He thought, it would have been good if I had lectured Shalltear like this while he thought about the tactics he would use for PKing. As he did so, he sprayed Albedo with a stream of words at machine-gun speed.

So here he is kind of talking without speaking because of him being paranoid of Albedo being mind controlled like shalltear, but it sounds like she does have a teleportation, it could be greater teleportation or not. No idea.

Here is this though from evileye herself.

"I'll just pop over for a bit, and once I familiarize myself with the place I can just teleport back. Plus, if I use [Fly] and travel by myself, it won't take much time!"

She uses regular teleportation and she is talking about teleporting between the Kingdom and E-Rantel.

Just need a map now.
 
Considering the wall that protects the Holy Roble Kingdom is 100 kilometers long already (bottom left of the map) thats alteast 150-200 kilometers.

So I'd say atleast a few hundred kilometers, as it is implied she could do even farther.

Any thoughts?
 
Limited One Hit Kill (Even the merest wound inflicted on her opponent will cause the effect of instant death, although this will not work on beings of her level, as shown during her fight with Ainz Ooal Gow)- Shalltears profile btw

I completely forgot about this was this always there?

Regardless that wording would lead one to believe that Ainz resisted instant death because he was comparable in strength to her, which is wrong, he resisted instant death because he is resistant to instant death in general.
 
Anyways, would that mean the matches when Ainz was tier 6-C back then gets re-added? They were removed when Ainz was downgraded to Low 7-B before.
 
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