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Ovens' Voting Kitchen

You're missing my point. If someone says

Blank vs blank please vote it needs just a few FRAs

I'm not just gonna go over there and say FRA when I don't even know what's happening. I want to be able to know the characters and be able to actually agree with what's being said and not just blindly FRA. The amount of threads in the removal thread at are there because people blindly FRA'd is the majority.

For example, i haven't watched a single naruto episode or bleach episode in my life. If a thread needs a few FRAs to finish, I don't wanna say FRA when I have no knowledge of either character, because I could be leading to a mistake. I'd rather know the characters and vote FRA if I understand what the characters can do and then agree with people
 
So why don't you read the thread or the profiles? Let's take this thread that has been on since the last one, maybe even before. How hard would it be to literally scroll down their page. The Arguments are simple and the profiles are clear. You telling me just because you haven't read their source material or played their games you cannot familiarize yourself with it? Not even completely familiarize yourself necessarily, just know that the arguments are bullshit

The profiles are there so that people can be informed. Why not use them?
 
I'm not gonna go out of my way to familiarise myself with a whole series for the sake of voting on something hahaha. If it's more popular characters, they'll get votes from people who know the series better.

Also if you read the Bond vs Gon thread, Bond wins it so I really don't get why people are voting Gon. That's what I'm saying. People are voting Gon when Bond holds morenadvantages, yet since people are misinformed and don't know each other well, it might cause incorrect votes. No offence

That's what I'm talking about. If it's a really small profile then yeah sure I'll do that but when you read down the powers and abilities of a character you've never heard of see powers you have no idea how they use, I don't wanna vote on something I clearly have no knowledge about. The amount of people who come onto Bill Cipher threads saying he wins because xyz when it's been said hundreds of times why xyz doesn't work even though it's on their profile is staggering.
 
Who said you had to familiarize yourself with a whole verse? ******* skim a profile or 2. Popular characters don't usually need to extra votes

I skimmed part of it. If I feel like my vote needs to be changed, I'll change it. I often do. If the votes are invalid, then they shouldn't have been counted in the first place. I may not agree with what everyone votes for, see my Okuyasu vs Weiss battle, but I won't get extremely salty when people come on the thread and vote against it just cuz they dont agree with me

Then it sounds like people being familiar with a character, or at least believing themselves to be familiar, doesnt stop matches from being bullshit. I don't usually go and vote on a long ass profile that I dont know unless it seems to be going one way anyway. My vote just hurries it along, and does not make it any more or less valid
 
TheArsenal1212 said:
That's what I'm talking about. If it's a really small profile then yeah sure I'll do that but when you read down the powers and abilities of a character you've never heard of see powers you have no idea how they use, I don't wanna vote on something I clearly have no knowledge about. The amount of people who come onto Bill Cipher threads saying he wins because xyz when it's been said hundreds of times why xyz doesn't work even though it's on their profile is staggering.
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There is also the option of asking people within the debate how a particular ability you're confused about works to be sure on what you're really voting for, but I digress.

Anyway, I'm gonna highlight three of my threads again, because the last time I did so was really successful in managing to get votes to some very ignored threads.

Kecleon vs. Laambo

Pyramid Head vs. The ******

Joshua Washington vs. The Look-See

And just for the sake of it, I'm going to highlight someone else's thread like last time. This time, it's for some characters which I feel needs a bit more attention, and this one was pretty nice at giving these two a good matchup.

Po vs. Banjo & Kazooie
 
Yes. As was gone over in the thread. He has win conditions, but doesn't use them because he is over confident. He can Zero Signs and Steals her Heart, but he doesn't pull something like that unless he knows the opponent is a threat. Very thematic

If I bloodlusted him, the match would have been a 50/50 coin toss, but matches like that are a dime a dosen, and unthematic
 
Ban only Zero Signed like once ever, and it wasn't in combat

Also him stealing her organs requires some effort compared to her saying a word
 
He can easily win by doing what he did against that commandment. Instantly Zero Sign and swipe her organs or ring her neck. Either works. The fact that it would be a 50/50 chance were he bloodlusted alone proves it isn't a stomp.

Yes, but with Zero sign he gets that chance.
 
We went over this in the thread. He has win conditions, he just isn't using them. That's not a stomp. Were he to take it seriously, he would have a 50% chance of winning just like she does. Hence, it cannot be a stomp. Also, he did pull it against the commandment, that is his win condition.
 
Those win conditions may as well not exist if he literally never gets the chance to do it or barely ever does it in-character regardless
 
Him not using it doesn't make it a stomp. See every Gil and Medaka match were they aren't bloodlusted. Ban has win condition, and were he to be bloodlusted, or simply had intel, it would be a 50% chance of him winning. He is simply too confident in his abilities.

Its not a stomp. Not using win conditions doesn't mean they don't exist.
 
He isn't using it for 2 reasons

1: He's literally only used it a handful of times in-character and it is in now way, shape or form an opening move

2: He gets sealed before he can use it, or anything for that matter
 
Hl3 or bust said:
He isn't using it for 2 reasons
1: He's literally only used it a handful of times in-character and it is in now way, shape or form an opening move

2: He gets sealed before he can use it
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1. Used it as an opener against a commandment

2. Zero Sign is instantaneous, so were he bloodlusted it would be a 50/50 chance who would win.
 
Aren't the commandments vastly stronger than him and he definitely knew that?

Momo is a literal child, nothing that i know of in NNT that's a tgreat to Ban looks like a child
 
Yes. If he knew that she was a threat then he would have taken her seriously... Just like Ajimu, Medaka, Kumagawa, Hanten, Shiranui, etc. That's what she specialises in. Opponents who don't take her seriously because they are too confident in their immortality. That's why its thematic. Intel or Bloodlust makes it a 50/50 chance of victory, hence it is not a stomp. Ban's confidence defeats himself more than Momo does, but that is the point

Actually we using the older version.

Note that his win condition is what he pulls out when he knows his opponent can take him out in one solid hit. Seems Ironic doesn't it.
 
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