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I removed the JDA scaling from the sandbox since it seems like most people agree it’s problematic.
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One-Punch Man: High 7-A and 6-C Upgrade
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The same as it does now, just minus the characters that are being upgraded? Low 7-B isn’t really affected by this.
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So Low 7-B Iaian kicks in the scaling chain for breaking the Tatsumaki shield as it is right now then?
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No.
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Can you reword this? I genuinely don’t understand what you’re asking here.
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Currently, one of the justifications in Iaian's page for being Low 7-B is him breaking through Tatsumaki's barriers that Black Sperm couldn't break even though the attack was aimed at Atomic Samurai.
If this CRT gets accepted, Atomic Samurai's durability would change to Unknown, so it would be removed from Iaian's page as a justification for his Low 7-B rating.
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The barrier was capable of temporarily stalling gums from biting it, so iaian would scale within the same ranges either way
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OH
I mean, Iaian has other justifications, so he’d still be Low 7-B. And ig Atomic can have Low 7-B durability via downscaling from the Black Sperms that could harm Post-EC Genos.
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Gums does't scale to High 7-A?
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I didn't say he did, this was about low 7-B stuff
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Oh, well Iaian already has his own Low 7-B feats so removing that specific justification won't change much.
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Since when? She had massive problems with both. Only thing she did close to what you said is knocking them from top of her and clashing with Promoted Rook for a short period of time. Genos had zero visible damage from the former and the latter still visible strained her.
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One-shotting Rook and Genos simultaneously, dispersing his transformation.
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This is something human. An attack that connects with someone's chin/jaw can knock out any person easily even if you are weak.
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And I already mentioned that. It is just knocking them off, not one shotting them. And even that was from seemingly redirecting their combined attack. Both of them tanked the attack without any serious injury and both could counter her attacks.
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Redirecting their attack is head cannon, and rook was totally dispersed. So that's blatantly false.
Either way, there's other examples, it doesn't matter to the overall point, and it's already been accepted. So I don't see a need in continuing this.
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I don't think that actually addresses my point.
If Garou wasn't using Awakening Breath when the 6-C feat was performed, then it applies to base Garou which affects this revision.
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At the very least that's why I got from that scene. But either way, rook being dispersed might very well done by DK himself. Genos was fine and DK literally no sold another attack moments prior.
And he clashed evenly with Psykojet
I am pretty sure CRT still isn't concluded
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Yeah, when force is concentrated over a small area, that's kind of the result. Swords exist.
It feels very generous to say she "overwhelmed" them given the context, not even mentioning that Genos' core was almost maxed out, limiting his maximum output.
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Not the CRT, removing Genos' JDA scaling to EC just because he broke a tooth, not even his exoskeleton.
Genos' leg was torn off, not cut off, since you can see that the cybernetics and part of his leg are still outside of EC's teeth.
Also, his teeth aren't the size of swords and most certainly aren't concentrated over a small area. Even the enamel coating on human teeth is about 2.5 mm at their thickest near the cusp. Now imagine that scaled up to the point where EC's face is larger than Genos.
If anything, the fact that a single tooth did this shows how much this doesn't scale to Genos.
The fact that a charged attack like the Spiral Incineration Cannon did nothing to base EC is also worth noting. The JDA is Genos using his cannons as thrusters, and he only resorted to it so he could target EC's internals. SIC should logically be > JDA.
Genos still had his normal level of power. Plus, his durability isn't affected.
Anyway, we have this CRT, so, like I said, I don't see the need to argue this point.
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I mean, that's not even what I am objecting against. I am just saying MA arc Genos and DK scale to High 7-A
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On this note, I think we had some stuff on PsykoJet not scaling to High 7-A since the Orochi twist also damaged her main body/was part of Orochi when he got weakened, but I can't recall it right now.
Might as well bring it up here.
Might as well bring it up here.
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Psykosjet isn’t being affected by this CRT, but you could probably just go ahead and add that to her AP justification to explain why she’s weaker.
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Psykosjet has literally zero scaling to any High 7-A character. Atomic Samurai easily sliced through her beam and then her. Darkshine‘s one kick mutilated Orochi so badly that Psykos had to abandon his body. Bang and Bomb squished Orochi, leaving him helpless until Tatsumaki finally killed him.
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I am not sure hiw slicing a beam scales to it. Dispersing something would take far less energy than actually overpowering it. And there is nothing that implies Atomic Samurai did it easily, to begin with.
It wasn't only Darkshine's kick. The body was already heavily damaged after a prolonged fight against other people and being hit by Atomic Samurai's atomic beeline slash which is literally dozens, if not hundreds of normal attacks combined. There is no way a low 7-B character would survive that.
Yeah, squishing someone is an awesome way to show your superiority. That also happened to Rover.
Tatsumaki's attack was directly after the whole thing. Orochi barely had time to do anything. Especially considering his heart element isn't the most mobile of things.
The chapter clearly shows the defeat of Psykojet as a combined team effort. I am pretty sure making her a thousand times weaker than people there wasn't the intention.
Besides, why a single injury is assumed to weaken her that much when she was just fine afterward?
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??? Slicing through her beam is absolutely grounds to scale to it, and Atomic is already accepted to scale above Psykos because of it.
Darkshine’s kick still dealt immense damage on its own, so… my point still stands. And yes, a Low 7-B character CAN survive that, because she has good endurance. As the durability page says, under the Surviving Attacks heading:
Genuine question, have you re-read that chapter recently? Because that’s not even remotely what happened to Rover. Hell, Rover is specifically noted to have taken no damage. Orochi visibly took damage from Bang and Bomb.
Being a team effort means literally nothing for her AP. Drive Knight was already shown to be capable of fighting and harming her on his own, and Psykosjet did absolutely nothing to any High 7-A character aside from getting beaten and mutilated by them.
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Good stamina has never been able to stop a low 7-B character from being blasted beyond mincemeat by a high 7-A+ character, or at least actually making a hole through them
the way people treat downscaling here is strict to the point where if a character stayed intact after a 3-A attack but coughed up blood or something it would be more acceptable to say that they’re high 6-A
the way people treat downscaling here is strict to the point where if a character stayed intact after a 3-A attack but coughed up blood or something it would be more acceptable to say that they’re high 6-A
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Yeah this is an issue.
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I mean, even if we say that applies to base Garou, then it just means the chain starts with Bomb. Nothing else changes.
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I never said anything about dura, and there's no reason to believe his power is the same.
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The point was about dura, and Genos only said that he'd choose not to use his full power during this battle, implying he could still go full power.
Also, there's no reason to believe his power isn't the same because all he did was exceed the operational limit and go into melt down (something that'd actually increase his power, if anything, because it burns nuclear fuel more quickly), which literally suggests that he's been overusing his power this whole time.
Also, there's no reason to believe his power isn't the same because all he did was exceed the operational limit and go into melt down (something that'd actually increase his power, if anything, because it burns nuclear fuel more quickly), which literally suggests that he's been overusing his power this whole time.
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Full power means ten second mode btw
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This still applies
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You ignored the "and her" part
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