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Currently the wiki treats admirals (Akainu, Kizaru and Aokiji) as severals tiers below the Yonko, but this is really correct? I will try to clarify why it is not. I know it is a subject that has occurred many times in the past and can be tiring for some people. But I'll ask for patience from everyone who wants to participate.
Admirals vs Whitebeard (Marineford)
First of all, we must note that in Marineford, each of the admirals faced and deal with Whitebeard on and off-screen.
Akainu and Kizaru were able to deal with Whitebeard's attacks. Both of them easily stopped his blows with The Murakumogiri and Akainu even clashed equally with a punch + quake powers.
Admirals and Emperors vs Yonko Commanders
One of the main reasons for Admirals being demoted are their battles with Yonko Commanders. Let's analyze some and see if these contradictions really happen only on one side.
Kizaru vs Marco
Statements and Conclusions
I believe then that I have made clear the message, now I will show some statements to strengthen the idea that Admirals are equivalent to Yonkous and vice versa.
Admirals vs Whitebeard (Marineford)
First of all, we must note that in Marineford, each of the admirals faced and deal with Whitebeard on and off-screen.
- Kizaru managed to overcoming his strength by stopping his Murakumogiri with his foot at the same time that he pierced WB's chest with his laser and made he bleed.
- Aokiji managed to stop WB with his Ice Ball momentarily, and was about to attack him with his arrows before being interrupted by Jozu.
- Just like Kizaru, he was able to stop Whitebeard's Murakumogiri and overcome his strength using only his foot.
- Clashed equally with WB's quake attack.
- They both also fought to a decent time off-screen, before Akainu hit his stomach with a magma punch.
- Akainu blow off 1/3 of WB's head after a quick speedblitz.
- Whitebeard failed to damage Kizaru with his Murakumogiri.
- Whitebeard also failed to damage Aokiji in the same way.
- We should note that Akainu was off-guard (Off-guard characters usually take more damage than usual as I will explain). And yet, his blow was not enough to make Akainu pass out or lose consciousness, quite the contrary, Akainu after that was still able to speedblitz him, showing up on his back and almost killing him.
- Later, WB hits another attack on Akainu, but we can see that this hit ignored his durability, as the shockwave went through his entire body and destroyed Marineford in half. Even after receiving this blow that caused serious damage to his body, Akainu was still conscious ("Why you... Whitebeard!!") and recovered himself perfectly a few minutes after that.
Akainu and Kizaru were able to deal with Whitebeard's attacks. Both of them easily stopped his blows with The Murakumogiri and Akainu even clashed equally with a punch + quake powers.
Admirals and Emperors vs Yonko Commanders
One of the main reasons for Admirals being demoted are their battles with Yonko Commanders. Let's analyze some and see if these contradictions really happen only on one side.
Kizaru vs Marco
- Marco stopped a wave of lasers thrown by Kizaru, not for his durability but as explained in the same page, for his flames with regenerative powers (It also explains how he stopped a magma punch from Akainu with his blue flames). Marco also kicked Kizaru and threw him away, but he came out of this attack unscathed and as Marco himself said, he did no damage to the Admiral.
- This is interesting and in fact the only event that can be used as a counterpoint. Jozu hurt Aokiji, yes but we have more things to note. First of all, Aokiji was focused on fighting Whitebeard, who was the main threat at the time. Then he is hitted by Jozu when he was distracted and Jozu left his mouth with a small bleed. I would like to go more deeper into this topic but we should note that:
- Aokiji was completely paralyzed by WB's Murakumogiri while Jozu came to him with great speed, consequently generating greater impact and explosive power.
- Aokiji was hit first on the head (Since only his mouth was bleeding) and still Jozu leads only a minor damage, it was just a single short bleed when Jozu had the perfect opportunity to attack dealing all damage that he could do, and that was his maximum.
- I know, they still fought off-screen but we can't really talk about that since when the screen back to them, none of them was showing signs of fight and Aokiji just took advantage of Jozu's quick carelessness.
- Again, an off-guard Aokiji. Marco also threw him away and similar to Jozu he came at him with higher speed so it was easy to push him. We have no sign that Marco has dealt damage to Aokiji's body, and we have no reason to believe that as himself clains being unable to harm an Admiral.
- Also, Marco breaking Aokiji's ice here isn't a big deal since his body was already broken by random objects thrown at him with high speed and even Nico Robi was able to perform this feat.
- Just as Aokiji was injured off-guard while stopped when his opponent came at him with high speed. The same happen to Big Mom vs Queen. Queen came falling on her at a higher speed and left her head injured, cracking her bones in the process.
Statements and Conclusions
I believe then that I have made clear the message, now I will show some statements to strengthen the idea that Admirals are equivalent to Yonkous and vice versa.
- As pointed out by Don Chinjao, Yonko and ADMIRALS are obstacles to be overcome for someone become the Pirate King.
- Luffy himself put ADMIRALS and Yonko to be the final obstacles to be overcome so that he can become the Pirate King.
- Garp, a legend that faced Gol D. Roger and many other legends of the sea considers Silvers Rayleigh as a threat similar to Whitebeard himself (And that was Old Rayleigh who tied with Kizaru). An important detail to note is that Rayleigh was lonely while Whitebeard had his entire crew, yet a lone Rayleigh was put at the same threat level as WB was by a character that certainly knows the power of both precisely.
- This should made the admirals (Including Garp and Sengoku) listed at High 7-A back to 6-B via scaling to Whitebeard, Silvers Rayleigh, themselves and others statements.
- No commander-level character scales to either of these two groups, as shown several times in the work, they are still far below those levels. And their feats by hurting such characters are situational, and can be even total inconsistencies.
