the Calc here uses hybrid zoan marco, even tho it was full zoan Marco who dodged the laser and is of much bigger sizeI figured waiting for KingTempest to reply to this thread would take a long time, because he might not be available, so I created my own calculation fix.
One Piece - Marco's Second Feat
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We don't see in the panels if he transformed into hybrid form before or during the dodge, though maybe the anime can clear that up.
the manga shows the dodge/movement while he's in full zoan... Via that we know he transformed beforehand
Oh no, but I've already edited my character profile page. What should I do?Well, I still think that we need more verification.
I'll revert it. No need to worry.
You can just click the rollback buttons for One Piece characters in Shadow's VS Battles Wiki edit history page if you wish.
That's what I did, I was just surprised by the amount of pages there was lol.You can just click the rollback buttons for One Piece characters in Shadow's VS Battles Wiki edit history page if you wish.
This wasn't meant to be on the verse page as there was a "rule" to wait for the egghead arc/fights to finish, it currently has finished now tho
First Calc
First issue of original calc is that distance from Queen to Sanji's foot is used. For using this, at the end of the Sanji's movement, Queen's lasers shouldn't be able to cross that distance. However at the end of Sanji's movement Sanji will already in a position that lasers won't be a threat for him. That's why I'll use distance from Queen to Sanji's head/ground.Re-Calc of Sanji dodging Queen's laser (again)
if I remember correctly chariot said the laser distance should be around his groin area instead
It kinda falls into what I mentioned in the OP. You should use 22.094443970773 m * pi / 2 = 34.7058714319 m instead. You shouldn't sum his right wing length, left wing length and body length.
Oh, I didn't remember this part. I just used face as it's what Queen's looking at.
What you mean? He turns his whole body not just 1 wing like this
I know, that isn't something that I deny.
No. Why are you summing speeds of different parts of him? I can literally get infinity speed using this logic for everyone.
This isn't a problem exactly because King is a little behind. Distance is negligible, but even if you believe that distance isn't negligible, that'd just mean King and his sword is even bigger than size we'll get (which was already bigger than his/its actual size).
So then I don't really understand why you would only account the size of 1 wing rotating
Because it's shown he rotated them as well
No you can't? How?
I'm saying that it's still inaccurate to scale even if the thing closer to the panels are bigger, using a panel that's clearly not meant for size scaling is the problem as he's behind the thing he slashed. (There's also pov where the wing is further to the left of the panel while king is nearly in the middle which would also mess up scaling as we are viewing it from an angle as we can see the insides of the wing that's slashed)
Because it's highest speed that Marco's any part have. Don't forget that Marco rotates these parts at the same time.
Oh, then a rotating stick has infinite speed if I sum speed of all of its infinitesmall parts?
To answer this I will repeat my argument and it will go like this as the other thread about that calc. We both shared our points about which size scaling is better so let's wait for CGMs' decision.
he moved his hole body within the timeframe of the laser, it wouldn't matter if that would be his fastest speed? Wouldn't it be nearly identical still, as he's moving the full length of it nearly simultaneously?
A stick does not physically move on it's own and goes 1 direction, with a body you have to move and force all your limbs to the side... which would account for your total movements within the timeframe
I mean Sure
If someone make several movements simultaneously, we won't sum distance. We would, if a guy did several movements and none of them begins before previous one's finishing. As there isn't any difference speed wise between someone punching at x speed with 1 fist and someone punching at x speed with 2 fists at the same time.(like with right fist and left fist)
I don't think I understood. So the left line, if it moved 90 degrees upwards... It would be L * 90 * pi/180 right? But then what if the black dot also rotated upwards aswell? Wouldn't it then be L + black dot * 90 * pi/180? That is literally a movement you would've ignored going by what you've said
Yes there is? If a laser has moved 3 meters ---> and you have moved both your left hand and your right hand
That's an example regarding infinite thing. (there are previous and later positions of stick) But going with what you said, black dot's rotating is quite unrealistic since center of rotation would be end of wing. It's logical to assume that Marco rotates around center.
There are infinite parts... Every infinitesmall part of that stick moves at different speeds. You can't just sum them. If so you can get inf speed for every feat.
No, it doesn't work like this as I said earlier. But better to wait for CGMs called by Antvasima.Yes there is? If a laser has moved 3 meters ---> and you have moved both your left hand and your right hand
You would use the total distance that you moved within the timeframe (3 / the total distance you've moved)
Like for me I can sometimes understand what you mean but then it starts not making sense since your still moving it, idk I think if other cgms approves that it's supposed to be 34.7058714319 m then I'll just change it to that
so currently we wait and see
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We still need some help here.
He doesn’t rotate around anything, he himself rotates in a direction
Do you understand that what you wrote has no meaning
No I don’t not understand. Because what I’m saying literally makes sense
Sorry bu I don't know how to explain it in another way.
