One Piece Profile Revisions: Part 1 - Original Admirals P&A

[Kachon123]

The One Piece profiles pretty bad right now.

I've started going through fixing them one by one. This thread is the first part, with its purpose being to handle the "Powers and Abilities" sections for Sakazuki, Kuzan, and Borsalino's pages.


Linked below is the sandbox that will replace what is currently on the Admirals' profiles.

Kachon123/One Piece: Profile Revamps

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Changes:

• Large Size for all 3 (all the Admirals are tall)
• Weapon Mastery for all 3 (Marines are trained in swordsmanship)
• Went into detail about Haki for all 3
• Damage Boost for Sakazuki (His attacks get stronger the more magma he adds to it)
• Likely Rokushiki for all 3 (High level marines are trained in Rokushiki)
• Absolute Zero for Kuzan (Was stated to have Absolute Zero)
• Sealing and Paralysis for Kuzan (Ice Ball and Coldness via Monet)
• Added the changes that were never applied from this CRT
• Added Cloning and Resistance to Heat Manipulation for Borsalino
• Removed Enhanced Senses from all 3 since that's attributed to Kenbunshoku Haki

 

[Damage3245]

You don't need to list every single formatting change/reference, but could you include a brief mention of any abilities you're proposing be added/removed to the OP if there are any specifically?

 

[Kachon123]

You don't need to list every single formatting change/reference, but could you include a brief mention of any abilities you're proposing be added/removed to the OP if there are any specifically?

Done.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

• Weapon Mastery for all 3 (Marines are trained in swordsmanship)
• Damage Boost for Sakazuki (His attacks get stronger the more magma he adds to it)
• Added Cloning and Resistance to Heat Manipulation for Borsalino

I don't doubt these but, if it's not too much trouble, do you have any sources?
If not (or if you just can't be bothered, lol) that's fine.

 

[Mndks]

Weapon Mastery for all 3 (Marines are trained in swordsmanship)

Really?

 

[Kachon123]

I don't doubt these but, if it's not too much trouble, do you have any sources?
If not (or if you just can't be bothered, lol) that's fine.

They're... in the sandbox. I linked it so that people can look at it and read.

 

[Mndks]

I don't doubt these but, if it's not too much trouble, do you have any sources?
If not (or if you just can't be bothered, lol) that's fine.

for kizaru

 

[Quantu]

Absolute Zero for Kuzan (Was stated to have Absolute Zero)

Where was it stated?

 

[Kachon123]

Where was it stated?

Databook Yellow. Again, it's in the blog.

 

[Mndks]

Again, it's in the blog.

We're lazy man

 

[Damage3245]

I'm fine with most of the changes. The only thing I'm neutral about is the statement on Aokiji's being freezing being considered enough for Absolute Zero.

I can see how it could be interpreted that way, but it doesn't seem explicit enough to me for it to be all of the particles that he freezes completely stops vibrating just because the "matter" he freezes ceases to move.

Also pretty sure it wouldn't be passive anyway because he freezes with direct attacks; people don't just get frozen being in his presence.

 

[Mndks]

Also pretty sure it wouldn't be passive anyway because he freezes with direct attacks; people don't just get frozen being in his presence.

I think so

 

[Damage3245]

Also, one thing I disagree with specifically is all three Admirals being listed as Rokushiki users.

While I can see how a person could assume that, it hasn't been explicitly stated / confirmed that these individuals use Rokushiki techniques.

 

[Quantu]

I thought you needed concrete statements for Absolute Zero, or specific statements of halting a persons particles movements or reducing their internal energy to 0. "In his presence, all living beings and matter come to a halt, unable to move or function!" seems too loose especially with the lack of a statement of Absolute Zero itself.

Absolute Zero Feats in Fiction

Absolute Zero is the lowest temperature that is theoretically possible in according to the laws of thermodynamics. At -273.15°C (0K), the vibrational motion of particles would be minimal or stop completely. In the latter scenario, the atoms would lose all binding energy and fall apart under...

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[SlendVeny]

You're actually a hero for adding scans on the Haki. Agree.

 

[SlendVeny]

Also, one thing I disagree with specifically is all three Admirals being listed as Rokushiki users.

While I can see how a person could assume that, it hasn't been explicitly stated / confirmed that these individuals use Rokushiki techniques.

Pretty sure that's just reasoning for the Superhuman Physical Characteristics.

 

[Kachon123]

I'm fine with most of the changes. The only thing I'm neutral about is the statement on Aokiji's being freezing being considered enough for Absolute Zero.

I can see how it could be interpreted that way, but it doesn't seem explicit enough to me for it to be all of the particles that he freezes completely stops vibrating just because the "matter" he freezes ceases to move.

Would a likely rating similar to Toshiro's work?

Also, one thing I disagree with specifically is all three Admirals being listed as Rokushiki users.

While I can see how a person could assume that, it hasn't been explicitly stated / confirmed that these individuals use Rokushiki techniques

It's not a full rating, as it's uncertain but has some basis.

Also pretty sure it wouldn't be passive anyway because he freezes with direct attacks; people don't just get frozen being in his presence.

This is true. The freezing aura isn't passive, but has to be activated it. I edited the blog from saying "Passive Absolute Zero" to "Absolute Zero Aura"

 

[Kachon123]

You're actually a hero for adding scans on the Haki. Agree.

It's going to be on every Haki user's page.

 

[Damage3245]

Pretty sure that's just reasoning for the Superhuman Physical Characteristics.

Akainu has this in the sandbox:

• Likely Flight (Pseudo), Statistics Amplification (Durability and Speed), Body Control and Damage Reduction, and Air Manipulation with Rokushiki (As a high-ranking official in the Navy, Sakazuki was likely trained in Rokushiki just like Kuzan, the Vice Admirals, and Koby)

 

[SlendVeny]

It's going to be on every Haki user's page.

I thought so. Just ask if you need help.

 

[Kachon123]

Akainu has this in the sandbox:

• Likely Flight (Pseudo), Statistics Amplification (Durability and Speed), Body Control and Damage Reduction, and Air Manipulation with Rokushiki (As a high-ranking official in the Navy, Sakazuki was likely trained in Rokushiki just like Kuzan, the Vice Admirals, and Koby)

I meant to include that on the other two's pages as well. It's a likely rating so I think it's fine.

 

[SlendVeny]

Akainu has this in the sandbox:

• Likely Flight (Pseudo), Statistics Amplification (Durability and Speed), Body Control and Damage Reduction, and Air Manipulation with Rokushiki (As a high-ranking official in the Navy, Sakazuki was likely trained in Rokushiki just like Kuzan, the Vice Admirals, and Koby)

Oh. That's a bit odd, I guess.

Sidenote: I might have to make a Rokushiki page sometime.

 

[Damage3245]

I meant to include that on the other two's pages as well. It's a likely rating so I think it's fine.

Okay.

To clarify, I disagree with a likely rating it.

 

[Mndks]

Where does it say that Rokushiki is something trained by the navy? I thought it was only for agents of the world government

 

[DaMonkeMan]

They're... in the sandbox. I linked it so that people can look at it and read.

ah ok

 

[Damage3245]

Where does it say that Rokushiki is something trained by the navy? I thought it was only for agents of the world government

We've seen multiple Vice Admirals use Rokushiki to some extent, though not all of them. And no Vice Admiral is confirmed to be a master of all Rokushiki forms IIRC.

 

[Mndks]

We've seen multiple Vice Admirals use Rokushiki to some extent, though not all of them.

Not that I don't believe it, but I really can't remember where we've seen it. I'd like to check

 

[DaMonkeMan]

for kizaru

Yeah Ik about the cloning stuff but the resistance to heat manipulation kind of confused me, I don't remember him even being in a fight against anyone that uses fire.

Also, one thing I disagree with specifically is all three Admirals being listed as Rokushiki users.

While I can see how a person could assume that, it hasn't been explicitly stated / confirmed that these individuals use Rokushiki techniques.

It's heavily implied, though. We know that Garp has it (he used something like Soru/Kamisori when he jumped off the buildings towards Pizarro in Hachinosu) and Koby does too so it can be reasonably assumed Kuzan was taught it.

 

[Damage3245]

It's heavily implied, though. We know that Garp has it (he used something like Soru/Kamisori when he jumped off the buildings towards Pizarro in Hachinosu) and Koby does too so it can be reasonably assumed Kuzan was taught it.

I don't think the best way to represent that is to say they can likely use all forms of Rokushiki though. Even Garp/Koby have only used a couple techniques.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

I don't think the best way to represent that is to say they can likely use all forms of Rokushiki though. Even Garp/Koby have only used a couple techniques.

True

 

[Mndks]

Yeah Ik about the cloning stuff but the resistance to heat manipulation kind of confused me, I don't remember him even being in a fight against anyone that uses fire.

I think it's Kizaru's fruit. After all, it's technically made of heat.

 

[SlendVeny]

For the Rokushiki and sword training, that might just be Garp's people.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Disagree with the absolute zero ability.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

He showed to have relative Busōshoku to Marineford Whitebeard when he failed to hit his true body despite coating his attacks in Busōshoku of his own[16]

How do we know whitebeard used haki there...? He was very much weakened there and his current state is seen too hard for him to use haki

Not even Kizaru himself was using haki in that instance since he was already struck when he noticed being cut, it most likely is just whitebeard trying to distract kizaru as he wasn't even trying to fight him

Kizaru would be around Marco's haki for blocking his buso kick... And Marco being able to touch his true body and block his lasers would be also be an "anti feat" for Kizaru scaling to whitebeard and akainu's haki

He showed to have superior Busōshoku to Marco when he failed to hit his true body despite coating his attacks in Busōshoku of his own[13]

This is simply not true... Marco destroying his ice blade and hitting his body away is a feat for his haki that's able to hit his true body

Which is even implied in the databook

In the Summit War, he fought evenly with the navy generals and backed up Luffy. He achieved great results!

Otherwise he would've stood in place and been unaffected

Otherwise I think currently everything else and possibly for sub zero seems fine from what I've seen

 

[That_moron2]

Following

 

[Ryuga21]

I don't know if this serves as a defense to Aokiji's Absolute Zero, but in other official One Piece material, Aokiji's powers are described as Absolute Zero with all the letters.

By the way, Oda stated that Aokiji's powers, as well as Sakazuki's, are evolved forms of other DF (Monet and Ace), therefore, shouldn't they scale to all of their abilities anyway?

 

[Damage3245]

I don't know if this serves as a defense to Aokiji's Absolute Zero, but in other official One Piece material, Aokiji's powers are described as Absolute Zero with all the letters.

By the way, Oda stated that Aokiji's powers, as well as Sakazuki's, are evolved forms of other DF (Monet and Ace), therefore, shouldn't they scale to all of their abilities anyway?

Being a superior Devil Fruit doesn't necessarily imply having all the abilities of the weaker Devil Fruit.

 

[Fireld]

Trained Sword Fighter (Marines are vigorously instructed in sword combat[11])

Dunno if this helps but in the official magazine, Oda draws Garp giving ALS sword training in a "what if they joined the marines" scenario. This is despite Garp favoring H2H combat in his fighting style rather than swordplay unlike Bogard.

 

[That_moron2]

Bogard

*Bogod

 

[Eseseso]

Looks fine