One Piece General Discussion: Egghead

[Kachon123]

I mean, I guess he cut a chunk out of Akainu's throat, but that might've been Vista.

You're using a feat that shows Marco blatantly being unable to interact with Sakazuki's true body due to insufficient Haki to prove that they're close in power. I hope I don't have to explain why that's questionable at best.

That said, if you have proof of the Admirals actually harming him off raw AP, that's all I'm looking for.

Again, you're switching the goalpost.

Marco has attacked the Admirals and failed to do anything at all. The Admirals have not attacked Marco. How in the hell is that fighting evenly?

 

[SlendVeny]

Except it's not because that's the entire point of Admirals. They are 3 monsters that help maintain the balance of the world. Them being anything higher than a mid diff away from people on Yamato's tier is ridiculous.

They're inferior to the Yonkou and one or two Warlords. Even a sick and dying Whitebeard was superior to the Admirals. They had to call all 3 Admirals and all 7 Warlords and all the Vice Admirals and an army over one Yonkou crew. Yamato fought Kaidou and lived. It really isn't odd.

 

[SlendVeny]

Marco has attacked the Admirals and failed to do anything at all. The Admirals have not attacked Marco. How in the hell is that fighting evenly?

Wait, none of them directly attacked him the whole time?

 

[Kachon123]

They're inferior to the Yonkou and one or two Warlords. Even a sick and dying Whitebeard was superior to the Admirals.

The only Yonko who are superior to the Admirals are Shanks, maybe Oldbeard, and full power Kaidou. The rest are debatable. The Admirals outshined Whitebeard in every single interaction they had with each other. The only time he landed a hit on Sakazuki was when he was off-guard and he still got up right after to take off half of his face.

They had to call all 3 Admirals and all 7 Warlords and all the Vice Admirals and an army over one Yonkou crew

The only Admiral who got up to actually fight was Sakazuki. For 90% of the war they sat on their chairs and did absolutely nothing. The 7 Warlords also did nothing but fight each other. The Vice Admirals were fighting the rest of the COMMANDERS.

Sakazuki alone stood against Whitebeards entire top commanders including the Marco who is somehow on that level and won.

Yamato fought Kaidou and lived. It really isn't odd.

So did Kin'emon. Her feats against Kaidou are equivalent to Vista's "feats" against Mihawk. The same Vista who needed to gang up on Sakazuki to have any semblance of a chance. While what she did was somewhat impressive, it's not anywhere near enough to but her close to the Admirals in power. I don't even know why I'm entertaining this.

Wait, none of them directly attacked him the whole time?

Not a single one. Borsalino did and he got blown up, being forced to regenerate. "He's a regeneration archetype" is honestly just a cope that people use to look over any anti-feats.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

If we get to the end of the series and they don't show that they always had this shit I'm laughing in all of your faces.

..Punk Hazard?
Also Aramaki was casually terraforming Wano into a lush grassland just by walking there

 

[SlendVeny]

The only Yonko who are superior to the Admirals are Shanks, maybe Oldbeard, and full power Kaidou. The rest are debatable.

Luffy, Big Mom, and Blackbeard are all superior.

The Admirals outshined Whitebeard in every single interaction they had with each other.

1st link doesn't work, and the other 2 are just Kuzan using DF powers and Akainu using DF powers.

The only time he landed a hit on Sakazuki was when he was off-guard and he still got up right after to take off half of his face.

Kinda funny that WB managed to sneak up on him, I never understood that.

Nonetheless, the face melting is not an AP feat, it's heat shit, and WB kept fighting after that.

Sakazuki alone stood against Whitebeards entire top commanders including the Marco who is somehow on that level and won.

Is there a scan for the end of the fight?

So did Kin'emon. Her feats against Kaidou are equivalent to Vista's "feats" against Mihawk. The same Vista who needed to gang up on Sakazuki to have any semblance of a chance. While what she did was somewhat impressive, it's not anywhere near enough to but her close to the Admirals in power.

Never disrespect Vista again, he's Roger level.

I don't even know why I'm entertaining this.

Then don't. It's clear you're not enjoying this.

Not a single one.

Wild.

Borsalino did and he got blown up, being forced to regenerate.

That certainly shows Marco and an explosion of some kind.

"He's a regeneration archetype" is honestly just a cope that people use to look over any anti-feats.

If I said that it was obviously a joke, and if I didn't there was no reason to bring it up.

 

[SlendVeny]

..Punk Hazard?

That's a POSSIBILITY, yes.

Also Aramaki was casually terraforming Wano into a lush grassland just by walking there

Yeah, he makes plants, are they meant to disappear?

 

[SlendVeny]

Anyway, since I don't really want to get a bunch of quote-posts about Marco and Yamato scaling while I'm asleep, here's a new topic:

Any metric you want, be it "good/bad" or scale of 1 to 10, how well do you all think each of the Warlords did at their job and what's your reasoning?

 

[Fireld]

 

[SlendVeny]

Low 1-C Bonney

 

[Mndks]

base kaido>kizaru

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

base kaido>kizaru

Truth

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Bad bait tbf.

Base Form Kaido loses to any of the Logia Admirals.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

1 thunder bagua with haki is knocking out and blitzing kizaru.

Max 2 hits

 

[Mndks]

Truth

1 thunder bagua with haki is knocking out and blitzing kizaru.

Max 2 hits

yee

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

1 thunder bagua with haki is knocking out and blitzing kizaru.

Max 2 hits

1v1 wise he wins regardless... Kizaru has nothing that will be able to take out kaido

And when serious he can block/overpower with haki and use future sight as well

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

Yall can't scale

anyway.

Any metric you want, be it "good/bad" or scale of 1 to 10, how well do you all think each of the Warlords did at their job and what's your reasoning?

So a Warlords job, to my knowledge is:

1. Contributing to the Marines forces during times of war, helping maintain the balance of power.

2. Taking care of other pirates.

3. Generally being a symbol of the government's strength (sorta ropes back into one)

Outside of Kuma (a fairly obvious 10/10), I think Mihawk would gain high marks. He actively hunts other pirates out of boredom, and has no qualms with lending his strength to their forces when asked (as shown in Marineford). And of course, having the World's Strongest Swordsman at their beck and call does wonders as a symbol of the government's strength.

Everyone who showed up to Marineford fulfilled the first part of their obligation. Though Boa wouldn't really have high marks considering she had to be coerced into going, and actively targeted marines as well as pirates.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Yall can't scale

f the scale

I just saw Zoro being a beast tanking the attack of 2 emperors and able to still keep on going and still get hit even more... No wonder bro saw the grim reaper himself, bro is resisting death too many times

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Bad bait tbf.

Base Form Kaido loses to any of the Logia Admirals.

I like how you specify the logia Admirals even though all 5/6 that we know of win against base Kaido

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

eeeeeeh.

Fujitora's kinda shaky featwise so I wasn't finna include him.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Yes, but he's still relative to Kuzan Aramaki and Kizaru

 

[Aerozz]

Tbf Old sick whitebeard 2-3 shots an admiral (strongest which is akainu) so yeah Yonko are way stronger than admirals unless admirals have awakened logias which makes them like 2-3x times stronger. Then they might be half Yonko level and the only thing admirals miss is the advanced COC which will make them Yonko level (still wont beat any IMO but ill give akainu over big mom if he has ACOC + awakened logia but still extreme diff)

Also BTW neither Kaido nor Big mom (as far as we know) are awakened so keep that in mind (God they are so fking scary)

 

[SlendVeny]

I like how you specify the logia Admirals even though all 5/6 that we know of win against base Kaido

Until they show the Weevil fight or the upcoming Marco fight, I do not believeGreenbull and Fujitora are beating Base Kaidou.

Also, I believe we've seen 7 Admirals or former admirals(not counting Z).

 

[SlendVeny]

We need a Tsuru profile.

 

[Damage3245]

We're still lacking profiles for the Five Elders, aren't we...?

 

[The_man_with_the_Midas_touch]

I believe Kachon is working on them, alongside some of the other Egghead revisions being put out.

 

[DaMonkeMan]

Until they show the Weevil fight or the upcoming Marco fight, I do not believeGreenbull and Fujitora are beating Base Kaidou.

Also, I believe we've seen 7 Admirals or former admirals(not counting Z).

Why can't they do it but the other Admirals can?
And yes it's around 7 if you count Sengoku and Kong

 

[Popbum]

I know the lucci, yamato, and Marco vs garp debate over but I just wanna say Marco did make flame on king bleed.

 

[SlendVeny]

Why can't they do it but the other Admirals can?

Because the other Admirals are better

 

[SlendVeny]

I know the lucci, yamato, and Marco vs garp debate over but I just wanna say Marco did make flame on king bleed.

That is because Marco negates flames

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

We need a Tsuru profile.

Was deleted because of not having much feats or something

 

[Mndks]

Was deleted because of not having much feats or something

As I recall, it was stated that she fought with roger

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

As I recall, it was stated that she fought with roger

...

 

[Mndks]

...

sengoku vc

 

[SlendVeny]

sengoku vc

Sengoku's VC says "He is a veteran Marine that fought alongside Garp and Tsuru against Roger, Whitebeard, and others."

It's also stated in Tsuru's VCs that she's "in the same class as Garp and Sengoku," but that might mean class as in the school kind. She's also stated to intimidate some of the Warlords of the Sea, and it's specified it isn't just Doffy when it says "EVEN Doflamingo" is scared of her.

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

I was way more trolley/unserious in the past what have I become

I was also brutally truthful in everything

like the most annoying people to interact with, is literally people who takes stuff like this too seriously... It's like they're dragging you as well into their world of seriousness and bs you need to escape fast

 

[MonkeyOfLife]

Sengoku's VC says "He is a veteran Marine that fought alongside Garp and Tsuru against Roger, Whitebeard, and others."

It's also stated in Tsuru's VCs that she's "in the same class as Garp and Sengoku," but that might mean class as in the school kind. She's also stated to intimidate some of the Warlords of the Sea, and it's specified it isn't just Doffy when it says "EVEN Doflamingo" is scared of her.

that's possibly for prime... But currently she jack lvl

 

[Popbum]

That is because Marco negates flames

huh?

 

[DaMonkeMan]

huh?

He also stopped a fire imbued palm strike from King and a Boro Breath from Kaido

 

[KingTempest]

Anyway, since I don't really want to get a bunch of quote-posts about Marco and Yamato scaling while I'm asleep, here's a new topic:

Any metric you want, be it "good/bad" or scale of 1 to 10, how well do you all think each of the Warlords did at their job and what's your reasoning?

Mihawk, good
Law, great until he met Luffy
Boa, horrible
Jinbe, horrible
Crocodile, good for rookies
Kuma, incredible
Weevil, lol
Buggy, he does a good job recruiting
Blackbeard... well he captured Ace
Moria, great
Doflamingo, horrible